Chapter Tower of God Chapter 561 Spoilers & Discussion

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Baam's actually struggling that much with Ren? Wow, that's pathetically sad.

SIU just doesn't get that sometimes you need to let the MC curbstomp someone.
it's the fighting style. bam lacks battle experience against ranker and higher, so he goes into observing mode, taking in any attacks while trying to understand how the enemy fights. firepower wise i don't think bam lacks anything.
 

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That’s so bad Ren is jus a ranker, how nerfed he is. for baam to have the needs of a forbidden technique omg.
Well, in the end that was the people's misinterpretation. He didn't use anything like that.

And idk, that power isn't forbidden to Baam, it's forbidden to the tower's inhabitants, because it's her law and he's exempt from it.
 

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White couldn’t do what Ren did and you are still trying to find some logic in it lol is ok tho.
It is a forbidden technique it doesn’t matter if you can use it.
You can do whatever with that and take any risk knowing you just can pull back. Is nasty to see.
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White couldn’t cut Baam arms LOL is crazy
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Kallavan couldn’t too 😂
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Damn another 2 chapters. SIU is a beast!
Definitely not that, they guy just trying to give us two short chapters to psychologically makes us feel blessed Lol there’s a lot of chapters longer than the last 4 together
 

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As long as people don't realize that fights are not just about power, they will still cry a lot.
 

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White couldn’t do what Ren did and you are still trying to find some logic in it lol is ok tho.
It is a forbidden technique it doesn’t matter if you can use it.
You can do whatever with that and take any risk knowing you just can pull back. Is nasty to see.
Bro, did you read everyone else's posts?

Baam took control of the parasite and his arm returned to normal, he didn't use Aria's power.

If you think Baam's attitude facing Ren, who he used as a lab rat, was the same as when he faced White and Kallavan, where he knew the slightest mistake would cause his death, are the same thing, I won't debate this further point.
 

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A pretty good battle SIU just have to confirm Ren as a HR but really good fight.
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Bro, did you read everyone else's posts?

Baam took control of the parasite and his arm returned to normal, he didn't use Aria's power.

If you think Baam's attitude facing Ren, who he used as a lab rat, was the same as when he faced White and Kallavan, where he knew the slightest mistake would cause his death, are the same thing, I won't debate this further point.
Apparently Baam can manipulate time, just like he did with Aria.

Shilial killed the other LPB there
it was you who said that. Sorry for believe you.
I still don't know, from what they said it's like he repeated what he did in the fight with white
ok
Calm down, it's still quite confusing, there are always idiots saying random things when the chapter comes out as if it were a spoiler.

Apparently the only thing confirmed is Baam having the power of aria.
Well.
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They're talking about Ren with some kind of spell ripping off Baam's arm, but he quickly recovers it with the power he got from Aria.
I got you.
 

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A pretty good battle SIU just have to confirm Ren as a HR but really good fight.
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it was you who said that. Sorry for believe you.


ok


Well.
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I got you.
So what's hard for you to understand about this?

"Apparently"

"I'm still not sure"

At no time did I say that, I just said what they were saying on discord when the chapter came out, after Raw came out this was rectified.

I don't know how difficult it is to understand this.
 

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LOL

if Traumerei is supervising this match he probably saw this fight but is SS stronger than Ren?
Ren felt the danger when the beast appear.
 

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LOL

if Traumerei is supervising this match he probably saw this fight but is SS stronger than Ren?
Ren felt the danger when the beast appear.
If Traumerei was watching that, then surely he will have decided to cut his losses and just have Baam killed.
 

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As long as people don't realize that fights are not just about power, they will still cry a lot.
Matchup only matters between opponents who belong to the same general level.

Imagine a corps commander tier fighter making a FH struggle just because he's a bad matchup....
 

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Matchup only matters between opponents who belong to the same general level.
Great quote

Smart fighters can figure out in the middle of the battle by using weapons, technologies etc
But the weapons and others tricks have to be at the level or higher of the people they are fighting to cause damage
Like Evans who use a lot of tricks and high ranking tools
Probably ship leeso is going to grow to fight like that.
 

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Matchup only matters between opponents who belong to the same general level.
lol what's the fun in seeing fights where you already know the winner or the strongest always wins? you can have more power than someone and be defeated by hypnosis, it won't be inconsistent, it will only be inconsistent for people who have their power list and who probably follow the ranking of people who don't know who would win between Enryu and Phanta, don't cry when you see an 87th defeat a 75th
 

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Probably ship leeso is going to grow to fight like that.
There's no Deus Ex-machina weapon in the tower, a regular won't grow leagues beyond his level just because he carries a strong item. Or so SIU said. I hope he won't retcon this lore at least.
Evan's items are effective against HRs because Evan on his own is a HR level individual. Also, notice that his items were powerless against foes way above his league like Hell Joe, Garam, etc.

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lol what's the fun in seeing fights where you already know the winner or the strongest always wins? you can have more power than someone and be defeated by hypnosis, it won't be inconsistent, it will only be inconsistent for people who have their power list and who probably follow the ranking of people who don't know who would win between Enryu and Phanta, don't cry when you see an 87th defeat a 75th
You can win by outsmarting or having good abilities against someone just one level above your own or so....But if the gap is bottomless, bad matchup or not, you're screwed either way due to the sheer difference in raw stats.
If regulars started beating Rankers or average Rankers wiping average High Ranker due to matchup, then we'd have a lore inconsistency.
 

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The ranking exist for that
So you can fight a proper opp
lol what's the fun in seeing fights where you already know the winner or the strongest always wins? you can have more power than someone and be defeated by hypnosis, it won't be inconsistent, it will only be inconsistent for people who have their power list and who probably follow the ranking of people who don't know who would win between Enryu and Phanta, don't cry when you see an 87th defeat a 75th
rankers try to avoid HR
And HR try to avoid higher rankers so
Just that ones growing in power are trying to surpassed others but it was say that the top Rankers position rarely change for this reason.
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There's no Deus Ex-machina weapon in the tower, a regular won't grow leagues beyond his level just because he carries a strong item. Or so SIU said. I hope he won't retcon this lore at least.
Evan's items are effective against HRs because Evan on his own is a HR level individual.
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You can win by outsmarting or having good abilities against someone just one level above your own or so....
But if regulars started beating Rankers or average Rankers wiping average High Ranker due to matchup, then we've a lore inconsistency.
My man that was what i said lol let me move on.
 

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You can win by outsmarting or having good abilities against someone just one level above your own or so....
But if regulars started beating Rankers or average Rankers wiping average High Ranker due to matchup, then we've a lore inconsistency.
In most cases yes the rankers will win, but there is always room for an exception, you have Adori who won a ranker while he was still a regular, Baam anyway beat Ren without much difficulty, he was surprised by Ren's shinneu that even though it's just a ranker it's a ranker above common rankers, wasn't the complaint about the LPB being weak and doing nothing? here is a ranker despite everything taking an arm from an irregular in the HR level
 

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In most cases yes the rankers will win, but there is always room for an exception, you have Adori who won a ranker while he was still a regular, Baam anyway beat Ren without much difficulty, he was surprised by Ren's shinneu that even though it's just a ranker it's a ranker above common rankers, wasn't the complaint about the LPB being weak and doing nothing? here is a ranker despite everything taking an arm from an irregular in the HR level
Yeah, Adori is an outlier, something that only happened once in several tens of thousands of years of the empire history and not because of she's a bad matchup but because she's an otherwordly talent who was already stronger than a Ranker before completing the climb. So, it's irrelevant here.
Tricky abilities or not, Baam in his current state can't be seen struggling against someone who's seen as a joke by many HRs.
 

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Apparently Baam can manipulate time, just like he did with Aria.
Her power was manipulating perception of time, not the time itself.
 

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That was a good technique by Ren very original from SIU
I Can’t accuse SIU of copying Rasengan because all the animes has this types of attacks that they got it From Drago ball.
 
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