Chapter Tower of God Chapter 573 Spoilers & Discussion

[Big-Bird]

https://cosmicscans.com/tower-of-god-chapter-573/

@Demonspeed

 

[EternalWinter]

@Demonspeed @Lady pompom

 

[King Dryst]

i don’t think Traumerei is planning a face to face battle with Gustang for now.
They are fighting for Baam so one of them have to proof to Baam they have good intentions.

That’s enough to convince him since he is the most righteous warrior in tower…

We definitely going to hear some true out of them
For baam to decide, cause Rn he can’t escape for sure.

So if Baam chooses to go with one of the two, the other is just going to accept that and let it be?

 

[Ignorant]

So if Baam chooses to go with one of the two, the other is just going to accept that and let it be?

It Would be two irregulars vs one
Whoever he chose has the winner hand. never forget the power of friendship.

 

[King Dryst]

It Would be two irregulars vs one
Whoever he chose has the winner hand. never forget the power of friendship.

Baam is so, so much weaker than either Traumerei or Gustang that his strength wouldn't even register in that equation.

I could see the question coming up, but I couldn't see the answer being accepted by both sides. Or maybe either side, because he'd probably tell them that he doesn't want to do anything except leave with his friends.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Does he have to, though? It seems like he could also just grab Baam back to him with Cobalt Frog and then leave Gustang sitting there. It'd likely get his Branch Heads killed, but it doesn't necessarily seem like he would even care about that.

I don't see it, Gustang isn't even really trying to steal the irregular, if he really wanted to he could have already snatched Baam, the main reason he came to the mothership seems to be related to the Icarus deal, i think he wants to turn Traumerei against Zahard. Traumerei also knows that as of right now Baam isn't really a threat to him and in case Gustang took Baam away Zahard may take some extra measures to eliminate Gustang/Baam, so i don't think he is even particularly scared of that. Fighting Gustang to steal Baam away seem like too much trouble, regardless if he could or couldn't take Baam away with Cobalt. Besides, he seems more preoccupied with getting his memories back at the moment, so if Baam stays alive and the conflict continues i could even see him striking a deal with Gustang for that, depending on how convincing Gustang story will be. If not, as i wrote before i could see him buy time for Lobadon if that plan turns out to be a big deal.

 

[Ignorant]

Im surprised to read that from You with the faith you have in him..

But the whole point here is not even the war
Right now they are fighting for Baam
Cause they want to use him to go agains the other
So for them Baam already has the potential to do some, if Baam use all his power you don’t think he can be a a variable in fight between the two?
Cause lets be honest only way out here for Baam is to show them he can at least run from them!

 

[King Dryst]

Im surprised to read that from You with the faith you have in him..

I mean, Baam said it himself at the Nest. If he showed even the littlest bit of hostility in front of Traumerei, he would be erased in an instant. Gustang has to be considered in the same category.

I do think that Baam can win against all but the very topmost of the Towerborn at this point, and that nobody in this place save maybe Kirin could seriously threaten him in that regard. But SIU didn't give him an opportunity to show what he could do against these Branch Heads, so even that is a bit speculative.

Full grown Irregulars are just an entirely different kettle of fish altogether, and Baam is a long ways away from being relevant in that game.

 

[Ignorant]

Traumerei just killed
5th SQ vice president and a bunch of minions without any shinsu skills and the hybrider
Every body else survive including Baam and his crew.
baam has little exp. He don’t even know what he can do That’s why everybody has to tell him every time what he has to do.

When he was unconscious in the data floor the thorn even open a gate for him to escape.. The true is that Baam is already the stronger person in tower is just that he don’t know how to unleash that.

I don't see it, Gustang isn't even really trying to steal the irregular, if he really wanted to he could have already snatched Baam, the main reason he came to the mothership seems to be related to the Icarus deal, i think he wants to turn Traumerei against Zahard. Traumerei also knows that as of right now Baam isn't really a threat to him and in case Gustang took Baam away Zahard may take some extra measures to eliminate Gustang/Baam, so i don't think he is even particularly scared of that. Fighting Gustang to steal Baam away seem like too much trouble, regardless if he could or couldn't take Baam away with Cobalt. Besides, he seems more preoccupied with getting his memories back at the moment, so if Baam stays alive and the conflict continues i could even see him striking a deal with Gustang for that, depending on how convincing Gustang story will be. If not, as i wrote before i could see him buy time for Lobadon if that plan turns out to be a big deal.

we need to know what Levi said to Baam about Traum
For real, SIU always hiding normal things!

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The next 10 chapter is Yama team vs Lobadon.
With 5 not necessary FB.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Wasn't gustang the one who set up the whole thing to proclaim the war against the empire? He didn't take enough issue with it to simply end aguero for being at the reading (which is what the law says to some capacity at least) and instead sent him with tiara on a mission which apparently tiara didn't even need to finish.

Gustang did not setup a thing. Reading forbidden books is a thing among the PB elite! Rachel and Belerier framed AA and tied it to the LPB! It was all part of the Rev plan to pit the FHs against one another, which Gustang fell for!

 

[Ignorant]

So we overestimate Gustang brain.

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fair enough.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Traumerei just killed
5th SQ vice president and a bunch of minions without any shinsu skills and the hybrider
Every body else survive including Baam and his crew.
baam has little exp. He don’t even know what he can do That’s why everybody has to tell him every time what he has to do.

When he was unconscious in the data floor the thorn even open a gate for him to escape.. The true is that Baam is already the stronger person in tower is just that he don’t know how to unleash that.


we need to know what Levi said to Baam about Traum
For real, SIU always hiding normal things!

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The next 10 chapter is Yama team vs Lobadon.
With 5 not necessary FB.

If it turns into a flashback festival, with Icarus and the other 10.000 reasons why Zahard must be removed from Gustang pov i don't think it's that unlikely that Enne Zahard might be soon brought up, afterall Tiara was introduced as the only PBD Princess candidate after Enne.
So we could get other 10 chapters of Yama being beaten up, yeah.
What do you reckon is more important/dangerous, Leviathan or Enne ? Could Traumerei even consider that as an exchange of chess pieces in this situation ?

The other thing about Baam, is that even IF he could gather enough power to play a part in a FH's fight like appearing at the end to break the contract, he won't do it unless a FH killed Khun/Yuri or something, he refuses to be used for war right now, i would say that as of now neither FH really crossed the line to have Baam eager to kill them.

 

[Wha]

I don't really get Gustang. It looks smart, but is it? He sends two of his guys into the Lions Den. Why, if he goes there himself?
Because it would be unfavorable to him? Right now, there are quite a few hostile BH. Gustang doesn't seem to care.

I won't comment (further) on the fight scenes, it was never SIU's strong side.

Ever heard of a monkey's paw? I really hope you don't believe that Gustang is actually going to grant those wishes in a way that lets her make hay from them. She's affiliated with a cabal of losers who want to obliterate the Ten Families, Gustang included. And you'd best believe he knows about it.

Then why did he promise her those in the first place? He could have just taken the three items.....actually, he did take them. So why give her something in return? To use her in the future? But wouldn't one favor/wish suffice, if he has to motivate her?

Why three wishes? One for each item. Because it is fair? Why should he care, unless he actually does care (for whatever reason, probably because of the one person that is likely behind Rachel - the one he talked with on the Floor of Death)?

 

[King Dryst]

Then why did he promise her those in the first place? He could have just taken the three items.....actually, he did take them. So why give her something in return? To use her in the future? But wouldn't one favor/wish suffice, if he has to motivate her?

Why three wishes? One for each item. Because it is fair? Why should he care, unless he actually does care (for whatever reason, probably because of the one person that is likely behind Rachel - the one he talked with on the Floor of Death)?

For his own amusement, probably. But whatever he does give her is something that's going to come back to bite her. Like, I could imagine him granting a wish for power by giving her access to powerful spells (Rachel would like this, given the degree to which she seems to idolize Arlene Grace). Knowing who she will eventually try to use them on and what will happen when she does.

A Thorn? Maybe she gets to be a porter for a piece until she gets near Baam and it abandons her to assimilate with him. Things like that. Gustang is no benevolent Fairy Godfather, I'm quite sure.

At least, this is what I would have thought up until this arc. Now it seems Gustang is even willing to lower himself to being civil to actual bugs like Koon. So who knows for sure?

 

[Wha]

For his own amusement, probably. But whatever he does give her is something that's going to come back to bite her. Like, I could imagine him granting a wish for power by giving her access to powerful spells (Rachel would like this, given the degree to which she seems to idolize Arlene Grace). Knowing who she will eventually try to use it on and what will happen when she does.

Maybe.
But i wouldn't be too certain about it. What you described just now fits Rei more than Gustang. At least for now.

 

[King Dryst]

Maybe.
But i wouldn't be too certain about it. What you described just now fits Rei more than Gustang. At least for now.

I acknowledged that myself in an edit.

 

[Wha]

A Thorn? Maybe she gets to be a porter for a piece until she gets near Baam and it abandons her to assimilate with him. Things like that. Gustang is no benevolent Fairy Godfather, I'm quite sure.

At least, this is what I would have thought up until this arc. Now it seems Gustang is even willing to lower himself to being civil to actual bugs like Koon. So who knows for sure?

It sounds to me more like wishful thinking rather than a theory based on some facts (i mean no offense with that).
We know of a few that worked with Gustang. Garam, FUG, Bam, Rachel, the guy from the radio.
Until now we know of no one he fucked. I don't believe as well that he does this things because of his big heart. But he does them nonetheless.

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It is off topic, but i just realized that Jubei is banned!?
Why?
Could we have him back?

Always enjoyed (most) of his comments.

 

[King Dryst]

We know of a few that worked with Gustang. Garam, FUG, Bam, Rachel, the guy from the radio.

He kind of did fuck Baam over, if you think about it. He deliberately exposed Baam to Zahard, and nearly got him killed in the process.

 

[Headlights]

Let's see who will Baam choose. Gustang, who just saved his Bae, or Rei, who has repeatedly threatened to kill all his friends and just had one of his BH try to kill Khun. I'll even go a step beyond and say Gustang has been watching this whole time. He probably was watching Rei play chess a laughing this whole time. the fact he waited till Khun was about to get shish kebab'd should tell you he knew what he was doing. if he wanted to just talk with Rei he would have teleported in during the chess match. Instead he waited till Khun was right next to Baam. So he does have some use for Baam after all.

 

[DeadCosmos]

When he was unconscious in the data floor the thorn even open a gate for him to escape.. The true is that Baam is already the stronger person in tower is just that he don’t know how to unleash that.

SIU going to make bam FH level now. why you have to say that

Always enjoyed (most) of his comments.

wow thats crazy. me too

 

[Ignorant]

Gustang is trying to kill Zahard on his own way that’s why he is collecting all those things.
He don’t trust that Prophecy..

 

[King Dryst]

Gustang is trying to kill Zahard on his own way that’s why he is collecting all those things.
He don’t trust that Prophecy..

Then he probably should have kept the Thorn for himself too.