that does not make it a straightforward win, and again “outstrips limits”, meaning his magic leaks out of his body, not contained within, so it doesn’t scale.
Simping fries dudes' brains and reasoning capabilities here. Just like IRLSimple logic. Bro this Eileen/Erza fans give me headaches with their lack of reasoning. How does suzaku being stronger than human selene means that Eileen is to? Eileen never being compared to any form of dg
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this doesn't look like a Dg level character to me
It was a oneshot. Jacob still took that punch head-on and got K.O'd
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That is not how scaling works, Jacob was not in a position to fight back, and when Natsu was in a similar power up form as before, he was overcome by another Spriggan of a similar level as Jacob.It was a oneshot. Jacob still took that punch head-on and got K.O'd
That's not what "outstrips" mean.
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as in to exceed
to be greater, better, or stronger thanbefore he had reached his teens, the child prodigy had outstripped his music teacher's abilities"
Thesaurus results for OUTSTRIP
Synonyms for OUTSTRIP: exceed, surpass, eclipse, better, top, outdo, outdistance, transcend; Antonyms of OUTSTRIP: lose (to)
Neinharts magic basically just surpassed its limits i.e. he got stronger than before/his magic power is higher than it was before.
Even disregarding the enchancement, Ninehart's body should already have been strong enough to withstand Natsu's attack from his previous mp level, according to that 'rule'
Do you mind posting the scan where this was stated?
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Yes it is how it worked. Jacob wasn't caught off guard. He was fully aware that the attack was coming. He just wasn't strong enough to withstand the impact. Also, I'm not sure which spriggan your talking about, but it doesn't really matter since the debate is that similar mp levels =/= similar physicalsThat is not how scaling works, Jacob was not in a position to fight back, and when Natsu was in a similar power up form as before, he was overcome by another Spriggan of a similar level as Jacob.
The magic maybe stronger, but his body did not, outstrip is greater as in amount, not in performance, which his body still has limits, that is why his magic is pouring out of his body hence why we can see it literally leave his body. But that doesn’t matter as MPF shows that quantity is the same as quality with how much magic power determines strength of a wizard.
but he was sent back flying with no way of protecting himself with Natsu taking advantage of that opportunity and striking when his composure was off. It is Invel who stopped Natsu before. There is also outweigh which is the be bigger in amount or outbalance which are synonyms to outstrip too. That doesn't change that is not normal magic power which is to indicate that his MP is greater than his limits. Nienhart's limits are that of any other Spriggan but his MP is greater but doesn't scale to his base stats, even before enchantment he managed to one-shot Jellal which would indicate his physical stats are weak too. It also carried over with Wendy who had Irene's persona with her MP which Selene said would be dangerous to Wendy's well being. Ultear was not an infant, she is a child yes but that does not mean much in the world of FT where children fight blood hungry enemies. And the same can be said for Natsu when overusing his magic causes damage to his body too.
Lol it's even better for me to even simp for selene ngl. She's a certified god tier so I don't really care when people say she's stronger than igneel or acnologia or whatever. The point s with selene she has the feats and statements to back up why she's certified god tier in the verse. But people on here be trying to make reaches like brandish and gajeel fighting aldoron. They literally got one shot in under three minutes. They be saying stuff like she got acknowledge by two god tier? How does that mean she's stronger than suzaku. Or they say she's 400 year old enchantress? Yeah that's why Wendy was outdoing her right. Aldoron legit was fighting the whole ft guild plus jellal and brandish, Eileen got pushed by Wendy and Erza. She not surviving against selene. She's getting one tapped
Irene also breached dimensions when she pulled Gajeel out of hell using her universe one spell. They didn't have to get a comparison. Someone stronger than Suzaku was compared to someone far weaker than Irene.
Gajeel never went to hell. He got "saved" before he ever died:
how can this(Eileen) even damage dogramag not to talk of selene. Not even on igneel's level
She does have evidence of being stronger than Suzaku people just don't wanna believe it because Suzaku has the better feats. Gajeel was already on his way to hell. Irene saved him. He was already in a different dimension since blood man died. Does that make human Selene stronger than their dragon forms because they weren't able to do so.Gajeel never went to hell. He got "saved" before he ever died:
Misaki has no evidence of being stronger than Suzaku. They're in the same tier of mp and in the same group, but that doesn’t mean that they're equal in stats (look at the Spriggans as an example)
August and Irene’s mp statements and their comparisons to Zeref don't matter, 'cause all 3 of them don't even remotely compare to Selene's feat lol.
When Merc's girlfriend noted that Selene was in another world while her power was causing havoc, he wasn't surprised and went on to state that it was the power of an un-nerfed Dragon God, meaning that Ignia (and Acno due to scaling to them) are capable of this as well:
So yeah, Irene gets destroyed
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We already know she is weaker than Selene but she isn't getting onetapped. Yeah because team Natsu were using they're strongest attacks. Gray's used a simple base ice cannon , Lucy used a simple star shot with Sagittarius, and Erza usual heaven wheel blumebatt. Of course he gone no sold some of their weakest attacks. And Irene is also way stronger than Brandish+ Gajeel.Lol she legit getting one tapped. Selene is canonically stronger than Eileen doesn't matter human or dragon. She's a certified god tier in the verse. She got statement and feats to back it up. She way stronger than 50% merchphobia who while he was not going out no sold attacks from x793 team natsu Eileen not even comparable. She's also stronger than somewhat weakened aldoron who destroyed brandish+gajeel in less than three minutes
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Then lets see it. Show me evidence that directly places Misaki above Suzaku
That afterwards does not really tell about what happened to Gajeel, and Gajeel was already gone from the living world and was just about to enter the afterlife so it would consider a distortion of space.Gajeel never went to hell. He got "saved" before he ever died:
Misaki has no evidence of being stronger than Suzaku. They're in the same tier of mp and in the same group, but that doesn’t mean that they're equal in stats (look at the Spriggans as an example)
August and Irene’s mp statements and their comparisons to Zeref don't matter, 'cause all 3 of them don't even remotely compare to Selene's feat lol.
When Merc's girlfriend noted that Selene was in another world while her power was causing havoc, he wasn't surprised and went on to state that it was the power of an un-nerfed Dragon God, meaning that Ignia (and Acno due to scaling to them) are capable of this as well:
So yeah, Irene gets destroyed
Canonically Kirin is the strongest. Compared to Gildarts. Then not only was the only other person compared to the strongest, she said no one forced her to get serious except the strongest. All that points to Misaki as the second strongest, the dialogue is pretty clear.
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I'm pretty sure if you do a Df Natsu vs the Guild thread some people would say df natsu oneshots.I'm sure if I do a Human Ignia vs Irene thread, Erza/Irene stans will vote for her because the author said she's stronger than Natsu.
I agree that Kirin could be > Suzaku because of Selene hyping him up, but that's it. Misaki sparred with Kirin. We don't know how those sparring sessions turned out other than Misaki getting serious, and there's also no evidence of Misaki sparring with Suzaku
They don't automatically scale just for being in the same tier/group. They scale because Merc confirmed that her feat wasn't unusual for a Dragon God, before explaining why him and Aldoron didn't have such an impressive power display.
supposedly beat her, but with what she said would suggest that indeed Kirin is stronger than the rest with how she used power when she was serious, and Erza managed to fight Laxus to a extreme diff.I agree that Kirin could be > Suzaku because of Selene hyping him up, but that's it. Misaki sparred with Kirin. We don't know how those sparring sessions turned out other than Misaki getting serious, and there's also no evidence of Misaki sparring with Suzaku
There is, however, this:
Which suggests that human Selene (who lost to him) was the strongest opponent that he fought at that point
Lol do it. Do Erza vs human ignia and ask what diff. You can also include a bonus round Misaki and Erza vs human ignia. It'll be fun to watch the threadI'm sure if I do a Human Ignia vs Irene thread, Erza/Irene stans will vote for her because the author said she's stronger than Natsu.
. I mean Erza fans already think that kyoka is stronger than mard geer. Eileen is stronger than zeref and stronger than human form acnologia. Minerva stronger than jura. I'm not gonna be surprised if they think Erza is on ignia's level. Lol I remember reading some comments when I was new here that Erza would fight all the five Dg together and still win. Another interesting thread would be Eileen and Erza vs igneel.
Selene no diffs and makes Irene her slave
