Games Mafia Game 112 - Panda Game - End Game

[James Rye]

We need to ban fake reveals cause when I saw that BP MR at first my heart fell all the way to my ass

Happy I ditched my studies for the right call tho !

Yeah, good call on that and thanks to that I have a pretty good Idea about my sanity,

If they was a recruiter:
- He would have been killed by now, a lot of people hinted / claimed to make it easy to find
- Somebody would have been recruiter by now and have claimed it, to speak in the name of the Mason Group to town.
- The fact nobody claimed to be with Marmalade in the Mason Group means that person is mafia, and there is no recruiter.
- If we trust GB's block and entertain the possibility of 2 mafia teams, it could have been a town + 1 mafia from each team, and scary thoughts, they could coordinate once the town in the pad dies.

Red mafia: We will kill X you kill Y.
Purple mafia: Sounds good, my teammate is dead, I would rather get revenge on town than see the cabbages win.

I've seen crazy pads with Farf and Panda, with all kind of mechanic and setups.



Explain your thought process for picking Holt

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The best person to recruit is sakura.
@Baka Taichou did you get recruited?

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@SirSamuel016 be active if possible when you can.
@James Rye you disappearing yesterday is a good town sign, I think I've seen you before not play when you get sickled? Anyway, today is the big day, what you been doing?

With two blocker roles gone, and I don't believe in a 3rd in such a small game, I can say it freely:
I'm detective, probably the only detective in the game. My passive allows me to use my 3 time investigations fairly safely, because I doubt Mafia got Strongman as 3 investigations with 13 potential targets is quite low of a success to reduce my role's effectiveness.

I investigated Tatsu night 1 in case we messed up with Marm and got guilty.
After Shad, Tatsu and Gry being mostly responsible for lynching Erin I put Tatsu in the most likely surely definitely townie part and investigated Sam in night 2 due his late last minute vote which felt like trying to hide among the Erin voters after it was obvious that Erin would die.
I got another guilty on him as well.

So either Sam is townie. Or he got the Mafia Boss role so my action is useless on him. Or both are scum which seems highly unlikely to me tbh.

As for Night 3 I plan on investigating Gaj most likely. Hopefully I get an innocent then.

 

[Shad]

@James Rye I would claim same as you, with 2 blockers dead.
Which is why I said I will judge people based on how early they claim today.

Claiming detective is hard to argue against, unless another detective counter claims, but overall you are still open to claiming paranoid.
Good call on investigating sam, tho mafia boss is a scary possibility.

My hint/claim list is outdated since end of D1, please guys share yours, today is all about roles.

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So what role @GB has that he can know he was blocked?
Spy, Detective, A role that target the dead like mortician?

 

[Baka Taichou]

Yeah, good call on that and thanks to that I have a pretty good Idea about my sanity,



With two blocker roles gone, and I don't believe in a 3rd in such a small game, I can say it freely:
I'm detective, probably the only detective in the game. My passive allows me to use my 3 time investigations fairly safely, because I doubt Mafia got Strongman as 3 investigations with 13 potential targets is quite low of a success to reduce my role's effectiveness.

I investigated Tatsu night 1 in case we messed up with Marm and got guilty.
After Shad, Tatsu and Gry being mostly responsible for lynching Erin I put Tatsu in the most likely surely definitely townie part and investigated Sam in night 2 due his late last minute vote which felt like trying to hide among the Erin voters after it was obvious that Erin would die.
I got another guilty on him as well.

So either Sam is townie. Or he got the Mafia Boss role so my action is useless on him. Or both are scum which seems highly unlikely to me tbh.

As for Night 3 I plan on investigating Gaj most likely. Hopefully I get an innocent then.

why didn't you investigate KONO ATASHI !?!?!?! you cuold have seen your sanity ;-; cuz i'm green

 

[James Rye]

why didn't you investigate KONO ATASHI !?!?!?! you cuold have seen your sanity ;-; cuz i'm green

Because if you don't think Tatsu is green after day 2 then that would mean you think Tatsu is TP? After night 1 result and day 2 outcome I was pretty certain of my sanity. Plus Panda likes putting in insane det more than sane in his games.

 

[Baka Taichou]

also, since i'm green in mostly everyone's eyes not a lynch target, what if doc saved me from last night. Quite honestly expected to die last night

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Because if you don't think Tatsu is green after day 2 then that would mean you think Tatsu is TP? After night 1 result and day 2 outcome I was pretty certain of my sanity. Plus Panda likes putting in insane det more than sane in his games.

how is tatsu more green than me tho'

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regardless, your claim doesn't rly say much considering what role it is and when you revealed. seems convenient cuz even if we go for sam regardless of what he flips as, there's the excuse oh i'm paranoid (or whichever is the one that gives guilty to all targets, i always mix them up)

 

[James Rye]

also, since i'm green in mostly everyone's eyes not a lynch target, what if doc saved me from last night. Quite honestly expected to die last night

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how is tatsu more green than me tho'

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regardless, your claim doesn't rly say much considering what role it is and when you revealed. seems convenient cuz even if we go for sam regardless of what he flips as, there's the excuse oh i'm paranoid (or whichever is the one that gives guilty to all targets, i always mix them up)

Why do you not get that I was not interested in confirming another townie but in finding scum?

If Sam turns out Mafia Boss it would mean that Tatsu is surely green though.

 

[Shad]

Because if you don't think Tatsu is green after day 2 then that would mean you think Tatsu is TP? After night 1 result and day 2 outcome I was pretty certain of my sanity. Plus Panda likes putting in insane det more than sane in his games.

I made same assumption last game about my detective sanity in a game hosted by panda, so your logic is good.
Your target is also good, reminds me when you spawn time and destroy mafia.

Ok ok you win, whatever dude, keep destroying me every game

also, since i'm green in mostly everyone's eyes not a lynch target, what if doc saved me from last night. Quite honestly expected to die last night

It possible depending on who is the doc, personally I wouldn't protect you, as mafia is behind they are looking for valuable role kills, not a healthy townie.

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Which is why you are a good recruit, unkillable, yet safe since confirmed.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Why do you not get that I was not interested in confirming another townie but in finding scum?

If Sam turns out Mafia Boss it would mean that Tatsu is surely green though.

i'm not saying to confirm me, why don't you get that I meant confirming your sanity.

 

[Shad]

i'm not saying to confirm me, why don't you get that I meant confirming your sanity.

He already had a town targeted on N1, proven by D2 results, only option left for tatsu was TP.
N2, he needs to find a mafia not a town.

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@James Rye how do you explain getting sick on D2? (I don't want to know what you did the night before, I'm talking in game).

My theory is that mafia believed you were recruiter with that Social Hint + Mason death, couldn't target you since you wouldn't claim it if you coudn't defend yourself, so went with sicky usage.

If this theory is true, then the theory of the mason pad with mafia in it makes no sense? Since they would know you aren't recruiter?

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Hmm you weren't blocked N1! Who was blocked N1?

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If mafia believed you were recruiter, no way you wouldn't be blocked.

 

[digitaldude]

If they was a recruiter:
- He would have been killed by now, a lot of people hinted / claimed to make it easy to find
- Somebody would have been recruiter by now and have claimed it, to speak in the name of the Mason Group to town.
- The fact nobody claimed to be with Marmalade in the Mason Group means that person is mafia, and there is no recruiter.
- If we trust GB's block and entertain the possibility of 2 mafia teams, it could have been a town + 1 mafia from each team, and scary thoughts, they could coordinate once the town in the pad dies.

Red mafia: We will kill X you kill Y.
Purple mafia: Sounds good, my teammate is dead, I would rather get revenge on town than see the cabbages win.

I've seen crazy pads with Farf and Panda, with all kind of mechanic and setups.



Explain your thought process for picking Holt

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The best person to recruit is sakura.
@Baka Taichou did you get recruited?

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@SirSamuel016 be active if possible when you can.
@James Rye you disappearing yesterday is a good town sign, I think I've seen you before not play when you get sickled? Anyway, today is the big day, what you been doing?

He seemed to be the sealing vote on erinyes, plus he was viewed as townie by the people here, thought he would be a kill for the mafia.

 

[Shad]

He seemed to be the sealing vote on erinyes, plus he was viewed as townie by the people here, thought he would be a kill for the mafia.

More than Tatsumaki? The person at the center of the D1 and D2 event and was confirmed by the end of it.

Gry and me are out since we claimed that we don't need protection.

But then next is Gajeel who voted 4th, then Holt, both are equal in my eyes.

1- How did you decide between Gajeel and Holt.
2- How did you disqualify Tatsu from the protection?

 

[James Rye]

He already had a town targeted on N1, proven by D2 results, only option left for tatsu was TP.
N2, he needs to find a mafia not a town.

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@James Rye how do you explain getting sick on D2? (I don't want to know what you did the night before, I'm talking in game).

My theory is that mafia believed you were recruiter with that Social Hint + Mason death, couldn't target you since you wouldn't claim it if you coudn't defend yourself, so went with sicky usage.

If this theory is true, then the theory of the mason pad with mafia in it makes no sense? Since they would know you aren't recruiter?

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Hmm you weren't blocked N1! Who was blocked N1?

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If mafia believed you were recruiter, no way you wouldn't be blocked.

Nah, if they believe me to be recruiter they hoped I would kill myself on night 1 by picking one of them after Marm died as Mason on day 1. Also you forgot that Mafia might have a Mafia Mason as in that he can get recruited by M. Recruiter as I remember that happening in some past game. But like I said, highly doubtful we got a Mason Recruiter in such a small game, same for SS, three times recruiting roles would be too strong with 14 players. I think Marm belonged to a small Mason Group with no Recruiter.

I don't think there is a Mafia sickly. Probably got the sickly from Margi because I was one of the last to vote for Marm, that's all.

 

[digitaldude]

More than Tatsumaki? The person at the center of the D1 and D2 event and was confirmed by the end of it.

Gry and me are out since we claimed that we don't need protection.

But then next is Gajeel who voted 4th, then Holt, both are equal in my eyes.

1- How did you decide between Gajeel and Holt.
2- How did you disqualify Tatsu from the protection?

Gajeel might be mafia, you can never trust gajeel.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Hmmm I'd like to reveal once and for all but at the same time wants to see if someone's gonna try claiming it. Think I'll wait till the people I distrust talk more.

 

[Shad]

@James Rye that explanation is a lot simpler, I'm overthinking this probably.
@Tatsumaki yeah no claiming yet, let make it as hard as possible to think of a role, I like DD idea tho, go to the Civ game and Pick a role that makes sense, genius!

Gajeel might be mafia, you can never trust gajeel.

That logic is also used by mafia, Gajeel is a good lynch in the second half the game, when people run out of things to do, he tends to go next.

I thought you were 100% lying about bulletproof, you know you are a big target every game, I was guarding you from kill, when I didn't die night 1 I got suspicious of you.

Missed this post, I can see that being the case.

@digitaldude you haven't addressed not protecting Tatsu.
Not distrusting you currently, happy you claimed RS yesterday and BG early today.

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Sorry guys if I'm spamming, will be on mobile for a while, then in Dota.

 

[digitaldude]

@James Rye that explanation is a lot simpler, I'm overthinking this probably.
@Tatsumaki yeah no claiming yet, let make it as hard as possible to think of a role, I like DD idea tho, go to the Civ game and Pick a role that makes sense, genius!



That logic is also used by mafia, Gajeel is a good lynch in the second half the game, when people run out of things to do, he tends to go next.



Missed this post, I can see that being the case.

@digitaldude you haven't addressed not protecting Tatsu.
Not distrusting you currently, happy you claimed RS yesterday and BG early today.

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Sorry guys if I'm spamming, will be on mobile for a while, then in Dota.

Tatsumaki was not on my mind at night.

 

[Shad]

Tatsumaki was not on my mind at night.

Hearthbreaking dude, there goes my ship!

 

[Holt]

Quite the late day with Gry and Tatsu pushing for the right lynch. The drought is over

Thankfully. Honestly was beginning to lose confidence in catching one. Although I went with the flow on that one so I don't even think this counts as a confidence booster.

I didn't hint bodyguard, that would make it easy for mafia.

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Grysun night 1 and holt night 2

Why me N2? bit of a weird choice. If anything I'd expect to go higher on the suspect list for joining the Erin voters late. As scum, there would be no reason to protect me, as town, it is expected scum would leave me alive atleast last night to try to push for a mislynch.

 

[digitaldude]

Thankfully. Honestly was beginning to lose confidence in catching one. Although I went with the flow on that one so I don't even think this counts as a confidence booster.


Why me N2? bit of a weird choice. If anything I'd expect to go higher on the suspect list for joining the Erin voters late. As scum, there would be no reason to protect me, as town, it is expected scum would leave me alive atleast last night to try to push for a mislynch.

I already explained.

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Who else is left to claim?

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You realize its a lot harder for mafia to lie about two roles right, it's best to reveal.

 

[Holt]

Yeah, good call on that and thanks to that I have a pretty good Idea about my sanity,



With two blocker roles gone, and I don't believe in a 3rd in such a small game, I can say it freely:
I'm detective, probably the only detective in the game. My passive allows me to use my 3 time investigations fairly safely, because I doubt Mafia got Strongman as 3 investigations with 13 potential targets is quite low of a success to reduce my role's effectiveness.

I investigated Tatsu night 1 in case we messed up with Marm and got guilty.
After Shad, Tatsu and Gry being mostly responsible for lynching Erin I put Tatsu in the most likely surely definitely townie part and investigated Sam in night 2 due his late last minute vote which felt like trying to hide among the Erin voters after it was obvious that Erin would die.
I got another guilty on him as well.

So either Sam is townie. Or he got the Mafia Boss role so my action is useless on him. Or both are scum which seems highly unlikely to me tbh.

As for Night 3 I plan on investigating Gaj most likely. Hopefully I get an innocent then.

Interesting, so you're saying your det is omo? I'm not sure what to make of this because that means you won't even be able to find all the scum even if you targeted right, even more of a stretch to expect to properly gauge your sanity like this. Also, wasn't N1 sanity check supposed to be on Shad, even if you wanted to double-check Tatsu, how would you have done that without knowing your sanity? Why choose now to reveal when you don't have conflicting results yet? Blockers may be gone sure why wouldn't there be a strongman if you're a BP?