Canon Human acnologia vs human Eileen

[Darklord#10]

i am saying Savage Flames trumps anything FDK or DF has as it can burn time with intense heat, such a thing would require astronomical power, especially countering one that can create a universe. Zeref would just humble Natsu to show his att@ck was pointless.

I bet Gottfried is even stronger than the attack that overpowered kirin right? I mean that didn't have the energy to move stars right?
But why couldn't this moving stars attack destroy the labyrinth walls?

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i am saying Savage Flames trumps anything FDK or DF has as it can burn time with intense heat, such a thing would require astronomical power, especially countering one that can create a universe. Zeref would just humble Natsu to show his att@ck was pointless.

You're seriously retarded.

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This wank is just disgusting at this point, this retards are out here saying acnologia in human form loses to Irene in dragon form. Lmao

 

[Axiomus]

Yeah because human acnologia one shot Irene canonically. Irene is definitely above human acnologia at least in dragon form. Irene and Serena are not in the slightest comparable, her human form alone is FAR stronger than he is. Just because he oneshotted a spriggan doesn't mean he can oneshot all of them.

Erza oneshotted Irene's dragon form. Acno is stronger.

Irene was helpless to save Belserion, the dragon she got her powers from. Acnologia soloed both sides of the battlefield. He literally wiped out the dragons that murked Belserion. People forget that Acno was ripping apart armies of dragons when he was still human.

 

[WoWfan]

Ax, Erza had Irene’s enchantment powering her, plus PoF and DS which is anathema to Dragons, though there were dragons killed before Acno participated. We haven’t forgotten, just that he didn’t get all of them.

I bet Gottfried is even stronger than the attack that overpowered kirin right? I mean that didn't have the energy to move stars right?
But why couldn't this moving stars attack destroy the labyrinth walls?

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You're seriously retarded.

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This wank is just disgusting at this point, this retards are out here saying acnologia in human form loses to Irene in dragon form. Lmao

Laxus can’t move stars can he? Considering that the spell happened in mid air that would be the case why it didn’t. There you go being intolerant again with the name calling, never thinking about how others may feel when it comes to that word.

 

[Axiomus]

i am saying Savage Flames trumps anything FDK or DF has as it can burn time with intense heat, such a thing would require astronomical power, especially countering one that can create a universe. Zeref would just humble Natsu to show his att@ck was pointless.

Savage flames is just Flames of Emotion. The attack that defeated FH Zeref was literally an Fire Dragon King Destruction Fist.

Do you believe Kyria survives DF Natsu?

 

[WoWfan]

Savage flames is just Flames of Emotion. The attack that defeated FH Zeref was literally an Fire Dragon King Destruction Fist.

Do you believe Kyria survives DF Natsu?

Savage Flames are beyond Flames of Emotion as they are flames with heat beyond the capacity of his immunity. Not even close.

 

[Axiomus]

Ax, Erza had Irene’s enchantment powering her, plus PoF and DS which is anathema to Dragons, though there were dragons killed before Acno participated. We haven’t forgotten, just that he didn’t get all of them.

You mean Wendy's enchantment. And Wendy returned to her body and fell unconscious. Any enchantment Wendy put on Erza would have worn off.

Besides, Acno > Erza with any enchantment.

Acno > Army of dragons that killed Belserion > Belserion/Irene.

 

[WoWfan]

You mean Wendy's enchantment. And Wendy returned to her body and fell unconscious. Any enchantment Wendy put on Erza would have worn off.

Besides, Acno > Erza with any enchantment.

Acno > Army of dragons that killed Belserion > Belserion/Irene.

Wendy using Irene’s enchantment, falling unconscious does not affect an enchantment that originates from another user and it is still Irene’s MP too, it doesn’t, infact, Irene‘s body temporally went unconscious but her enchantments did not vanish like U1. doesn’t really matter which one used as long as Acno has hax armor. Belserion never showed feats that altered continent size counties or pulled meteors from space. Hiro stated that the Spriggans are some of the strongest enemies that FT faced, that inlcudes eclipse dragons.

 

[Axiomus]

Savage Flames are beyond Flames of Emotion as they are flames with heat beyond the capacity of his immunity. Not even close.

Savage flames doesnt even exist. The term is entirely made up by fans.

The manga has Zeref saying "It's a savage blaze of emotion". The anime has a better translation, where Zeref says "It's raging flames of emotion". The term savage flame doesnt exist in either. The actual spell Natsu used was Fire Dragon King's Destruction Fist.




Watch from 2:37. That's right. FH Zeref was defeated by FDK.

Wendy using Irene’s enchantment, falling unconscious does not affect an enchantment that originates from another user and it is still Irene’s MP too, it doesn’t, infact, Irene‘s body temporally went unconscious but her enchantments did not vanish like U1. doesn’t really matter which one used as long as Acno has hax armor. Belserion never showed feats that altered continent size counties or pulled meteors from space. Hiro stated that the Spriggans are some of the strongest enemies that FT faced, that inlcudes eclipse dragons.

The spell isn't tied to Irene's body. It's tied to Wendy's soul. Universe One isnt tied to Irene's body either. It's tied to Irene's soul.

Doesnt matter. Belserion has killed dragons. Irene said so herself that its easier to break a meteor than the penetrate the scales of a dragon.

 

[WoWfan]

Savage flames doesnt even exist. The term is entirely made up by fans.

The manga has Zeref saying "It's a savage blaze of emotion". The anime has a better translation, where Zeref says "It's raging flames of emotion". The term savage flame doesnt exist in either. The actual spell Natsu used was Fire Dragon King's Destruction Fist.


That's right. FH Zeref was defeated by FDK.



The spell isn't tied to Irene's body. It's tied to Wendy's soul. Universe One isnt tied to Irene's body either. It's tied to Irene's soul.

Doesnt matter. Belserion has killed dragons. Irene said so herself that its easier to break a meteor than the penetrate the scales of a dragon.

It is only referred such because no other instances of Flames of Emotion have burn hot enough to actually burn him. Blaze is synonymous to Flame, but even so with translations, Savage Flames is most familiar. Actually Flames of Emotion is a magic, which he uses as in Savage Flames. FDK with Savage Flames temperature. Wendy’s personality is not her soul, as it is not simple possession as it makes you become that person themselves, Irene said her magic abilities are reduced too so they do not carry over. There is a distinction between the two as Selene pointed out something like a soul. Because of Hax.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Erza oneshotted Irene's dragon form. Acno is stronger.

Irene was helpless to save Belserion, the dragon she got her powers from. Acnologia soloed both sides of the battlefield. He literally wiped out the dragons that murked Belserion. People forget that Acno was ripping apart armies of dragons when he was still human.

Yeah acnologia is stronger overall but I'm pretty sure she is above his human form, maybe not Irene human form but dragon form. And we both know Erza was full of POF at that moment.

Yeah but also in the past we seen Irene oneshot a dragon. Irene was also called queen of the dragons. She said in her fight with Erza she became a queen because of her unparrelled magic power.
I'm not tryna say Irene is strong as Acnologia, but this fight isn't as easy for Acnologia as people make it out to be.

 

[Axiomus]

Yeah acnologia is stronger overall but I'm pretty sure she is above his human form, maybe not Irene human form but dragon form. And we both know Erza was full of POF at that moment.

Yeah but also in the past we seen Irene oneshot a dragon. Irene was also called queen of the dragons. She said in her fight with Erza she became a queen because of her unparrelled magic power.
I'm not tryna say Irene is strong as Acnologia, but this fight isn't as easy for Acnologia as people make it out to be.

Acno in his human form is still stronger than all 7DS combined. Irene's dragon form got cut down by Erza+Wendy.

Irene was the queen of her dragon kingdom even before she invented dragon slaying magic. Her title means nothing to the other dragons. Belserion's side was losing. Then Acnologia wiped out both sides, including the dragons that murdered Belserion. If Irene could single handidly solo all the dragons like that, Belserion woulda never died.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Acno in his human form is still stronger than all 7DS combined. Irene's dragon form got cut down by Erza+Wendy.

Irene was the queen of her dragon kingdom even before she invented dragon slaying magic. Her title means nothing to the other dragons. Belserion's side was losing. Then Acnologia wiped out both sides, including the dragons that murdered Belserion. If Irene could single handidly solo all the dragons like that, Belserion woulda never died.

Yeah but they were cracked on POF. Most of the 7 dragon slayers were also exhausted and weakened before their fight with Human Acnologia especially Natsu. Erza alone is far stronger than most of the 7 dragon slayers except Laxus and Emotional Natsu. Irene also did better against Human Acnologia then the 7 dragon slayers except for the last part. Irene is most definitely above Human Acnologia.

 

[Shoutmon]

It's amazing how the narrative is being rewritten to prop Irene up so much.

The whole purpose of the Alverez war (as far as the Spriggans knew) was for Zeref to get Fairy Heart and power himself up enough to possibly stand a chance against Acno, who made his entrance in the arc by oneshotting 1 of the Spriggan and causing Irene’s equal to shit himself.

Yet apparently August was wrong to have that response, 'cause both him and Irene are actually relative to human Acno with the latter surpassing him completely in her dragon form. Erza was casually amped to around Acno level by Irene, which is why she was able to beat her strongest attack and dragon form with just 1 arm and an extra friendship boost, and the only thing saving Acno's ass from those two and Zeref just jumping him with the rest of the Spriggan is his magic resistance!

 

[WoWfan]

It's amazing how the narrative is being rewritten to prop Irene up so much.

The whole purpose of the Alverez war (as far as the Spriggans knew) was for Zeref to get Fairy Heart and power himself up enough to possibly stand a chance against Acno, who made his entrance in the arc by oneshotting 1 of the Spriggan and causing Irene’s equal to shit himself.

Yet apparently August was wrong to have that response, 'cause both him and Irene are actually relative to human Acno with the latter surpassing him completely in her dragon form. Erza was casually amped to around Acno level by Irene, which is why she was able to beat her strongest attack and dragon form with just 1 arm and an extra friendship boost, and the only thing saving Acno's ass from those two and Zeref just jumping him with the rest of the Spriggan is his magic resistance!

Well thanks to recent chapters by hiro that is the case, August was more surprised how GS was defeated so easily because he was “blessed by the dragon gods”. Well that is how he survived being destroyed by a power that transcends time, if he got a power up from it, then that means it was beneath him.

 

[Axiomus]

Yeah but they were cracked on POF. Most of the 7 dragon slayers were also exhausted and weakened before their fight with Human Acnologia especially Natsu. Erza alone is far stronger than most of the 7 dragon slayers except Laxus and Emotional Natsu. Irene also did better against Human Acnologia then the 7 dragon slayers except for the last part. Irene is most definitely above Human Acnologia.

7DS were also cracked on POF. They literally said that the voices of their loves ones gave them strength right before fighting Acno. Irene didnt do better than the 7DS. She just pushed him back a bit and dodged one attack. That was all. She did nothing that Jellal didnt also do.

It took the entire continent of Ishgal casting Fairy Sphere, all the dragonslayers powers enchanted into Natsu, and Lucy sending Natsu all the feelings of everyone in Ishgal to beat Acnologia's human form. This is far more than it took to beat Irene's dragon form.

 

[WoWfan]

Having PoF doesn’t make them suddenly full of power or beyond peak, plus that Acno was massively amped too, so the comparison it not really there. Acno was being serious against Irene and said she as strong. DS power which was weakened, and took Acno being MS to make the plan successful.

 

[Axiomus]

Lucy sending Natsu the emotions of literally everyone on Ishgal is arguably the single greatest power of emotion boost in the series. We're talking about every mage on Ishgal. Sure, Acnologia had a power-up. He also split his power in half after that. Let's not pretend that Acno needed to the rift of time to do what he did to the dragonslayers.

 

[WoWfan]

that’s for FS, not Natsu who was amped by 6 other DS, not really as he just split his spirit and body, don’t recall anything about his power being split, he just needed them to stabilize his magic. Even if theoretically he did split his power in half, that is still Universe level at best since his strength is stated to be above that of space and time, and at that point would be stronger than FH Zeref who was going to create a new reality.

 

[Axiomus]

It was for both. After casting Fairy Sphere, Lucy connected hearts with Natsu and sent him everyone's emotions.

Spoiler

Acno got that powerup by literally eating a dimensions worth of magic. So what is stopping Acno from, you know, just eating Irene's magic?

 

[WoWfan]

Respectfully, she is referring to herself for the Spell, she was talking to everyone to send it to her. He could though he was still sent back, with Irene, there are new generation spells that Acno can’t account for.