Games Mafia Game 117-Buffy the Vampire Slayer [Town Wins]

[Baka Taichou]

Night actions and results:

Night 1:
Randomized result for paranoid spy: Checks Shad - Shad performed action on Juviii (Real Target: Raven ~block~)

Coinflip for Priority 1 on block: Demon blocks Shad (Prio 1) - Shad Blocks Raven (Prio 1) -> Shad wins coinflip and successfully blocks Raven

Night 2:
Insane spy randomized target: DD performs action on Xadyu

 

[digitaldude]

Im vanilla townie with sickly, sickened demonspeed cause it seemed he was looking to vote for someone that hasnt had a vote on them yet and it wasnt a random vote.

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Seems brandish is dead today unless we caught an obvious mafia

 

[Belserion]

Further notes I would have on Bel.
You mention that you give hints reluctantly, and instead of just claiming active or passive you directly give a hint about your role Day 1. This gives you more space to go for a role or hint throughout the game depending on what others will state.

I'm an overachiever. When I hint I want it to mean something. I'm not going to do the mafias work for them. Good luck to them hunting down my meaning and my role. Besides I find when townies advertise they have an active role it just gives the mafia a nice little lineup to work with. And in a small game like this it's worse since you can actually narrow down the roles that "should" be in the game. Not ideal. That's just my thinking.

Returning to my rethroic, why give such an odd specific hint, that can be doublechecked in the first day? More so when trying to point out to a townie role? Not only does it draw attention to you, but if you are town, why would you specify it in such a way that could have you marked for a night kill?
Either way, my findings on your specific role are not conclusive, I do believe we need to have a recheck on your claim.

What claim? And you could be right. Maybe i've had it more times than I recall. I honestly can't keep track of these games. So much for being clever. Guess i'll go back to the reliable i've had this role before.

Bel I am amazed at how many games you have under your belt, impressive)

It's an addiction and i'm still in the denial phase so don't tell me.

 

[Demonspeed]

Im vanilla townie with sickly, sickened demonspeed cause it seemed he was looking to vote for someone that hasnt had a vote on them yet and it wasnt a random vote.

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Seems brandish is dead today unless we caught an obvious mafia

Be honest and say that you did it because I said I'd vote you if I were to follow my hunch?

 

[AwkwardMisha]

??? Where is the contradiction on my end? Me voting for someone who hasn't hinted doesn't mean that I'll change my vote after that person's claim. It doesn't necessarily mean that I would only vote for non-hinters either. Bran, Jinx and Raven, didn't hints, but they were also the most inactive.

By voting Bel, who, was active, I got her to hint. Raven didn't even vote properly and Jinx didn't have the opportunity to defend herself. There is usually not much to analyze D1.

Are you saying that lynching the most inactive is the optimal solution then?

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Felt very fake because you were only 5 or 10 minutes earlier. And you posted this right before the end of the DP.

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online* not only.

Well

I just picked you among the ones who didn't hint and had no vote.

Went for an easy target. Still, you based your vote that she did not hint and left it as is.
After her hinting you could have gone with your initial plan "vote no hinters".
Also why would you go for DD by instinct? When he is one of the hinters and also was as active as Jinx and Raven.

That's my point exactly. Why are you still defending Jinx, who played as low as Raven and never hinted.

It was enough for Day 1 analysis.
People who refused to give any other hints were on the radar, I think the judgment was sound. We went with what we had on hand.

Also, Raven and Jinx did interact and Raven even stayed on the forums, yet did not even properly react to the host informing that she did not vote.
It might be just low mafia play until the plan fits.

If I had to go by no interaction I would go with Shad plan, getting Brandish voted. Which I did not, because why go after an inactive player.
Plus it seems odd to me to have a mafia player start with 4 penalty votes, seeing that as the game is small there might be only 2 mafia left in the game.

 

[Erinyes]

I do trust DD claim, since theres no need exactly to hide it, I dont have any spicy role or anything I'm a healthy townie.

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well sicly is secondary it doesnt mean DD is not mafia or Tp

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but the sickly part is likely true.

 

[Shad]

Felt very fake because you were only 5 or 10 minutes earlier. And you posted this right before the end of the DP.

You mean you checked somewhere and you know for a fact I was connected 5 minutes before posting?

 

[Xadyu]

Next on my list is Xad.

Yes, I still find it suspicious that you could not hint directly if it is a passive or active role, yet you gave indirect further information on your role.

It's passive, for now.

Again, I went through all your games and doublechecked with the roles we have at hand.

Then you might know more than me, haha. (But yeah, I never had it, 99,9% sure)

Yes, you locked on Jinx which turned out to be mafia, but at the same time, it could have been throwing a teammate under the bus in order to get townie points.
Either way, you are still on my research list.

I completely forgot locking a vote counts for more in the final tally. I was planning on voting someone else to get a tie vote and hope for the best (before you also voted on her in those final minutes).

And the whole teammate spiel can be said about you as well, now you voted for her and she's gone.
But I guess every theory cuts at both sides of the blade.

 

[digitaldude]

I do trust DD claim, since theres no need exactly to hide it, I dont have any spicy role or anything I'm a healthy townie.

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well sicly is secondary it doesnt mean DD is not mafia or Tp

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but the sickly part is likely true.

Healthy Townie? hmmm thats your primary role? then we might have a confirmed townie then

Be honest and say that you did it because I said I'd vote you if I were to follow my hunch?

No buffy.

 

[Shad]

Besides I find when townies advertise they have an active role it just gives the mafia a nice little lineup to work with. And in a small game like this it's worse since you can actually narrow down the roles that "should" be in the game. Not ideal. That's just my thinking.

Hmmm, you know people do lynch and use roles on those townies that don't claim active/passive?
You emphazise the disadvantages only.

To be clear I also don't find your hint useful, I will leave it to others that like searching threads to figure it out.

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I do trust DD claim, since theres no need exactly to hide it, I dont have any spicy role or anything I'm a healthy townie.

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well sicly is secondary it doesnt mean DD is not mafia or Tp

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but the sickly part is likely true.

So you can be confirmed by DD tonight?

 

[Xadyu]

Went for an easy target.

Is there any kind of a different target one D1?

 

[Erinyes]

You mean you checked somewhere and you know for a fact I was connected 5 minutes before posting?

He is a blue slayer their power are beyond what you can imagine.

Healthy Townie? hmmm thats your primary role? then we might have a confirmed townie then

Its my only role, i dont have any secondary role.

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So you can be confirmed by DD tonight?

i assume so.

 

[Juviii]

Healthy Townie? hmmm thats your primary role? then we might have a confirmed townie then


No buffy.

I would use it more as a secondary just like sickly, especially as it's not used in centuries, but I'm not the host so.

 

[Shad]

I would use it more as a secondary just like sickly, especially as it's not used in centuries, but I'm not the host so.

You mean there is a way in the rules to have healthy town as secondary role? Temp roles?

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Maybe DD need to sicky Erin twice xD

 

[Xadyu]

Did anyone else target Demon by any chance?

 

[desin24]

Sweet so we have to claims already. Sickly can definitely make a difference in the later game stages.

Healthy as main role would definitely speak against the "OP powers" being assigned. Would like a more simple game NGL, back to basics.

Did anyone else target Demon by any chance?

Nope, from my side

 

[Shad]

Did anyone else target Demon by any chance?

I didn't.

 

[Erinyes]

I would use it more as a secondary just like sickly, especially as it's not used in centuries, but I'm not the host so.

Its a main role it could be used as secondary only in mechanics like game, but there are no mechanics in this game.

VOTING RELATED ROLES

• The Noble (Townie) can, once per day, cast an extra vote in secret by PM'ing the Host. One "anonymous vote" will be added to the chosen person. Cannot be used in the last hour of the Day phase.
• The Restless Spirit (Townie) (Passive), the Day Phase after they die, can cast a vote and make a post. They cannot join the deadpad until this phase has passed.
• The Troublemaker (Townie) can, once per game, cause the top 2 voted players to be lynched instead of the regular top 1 voted players. The Troublemaker submits this the night before they wish to cause this. Every player has 2 votes but cannot vote the same player twice. The Host announces this event at the start of the Day.
• The Healthy Townie (Townie) (Passive) negates the effect of Sickly Townie when targeted and remains able to vote.
• The Sickly (Unassigned) (Secondary) targets a player every night to infect who then can’t vote the next Day phase. This is publicly announced by the Host. The Sickly must choose between using their main role and this ability. The effect is announced by the Host at the start of the Day Phase.
• The Not-Voter Disease (Unassigned) (Secondary) prevents the infected player from voting. This effect is passed on from player to player during the Night phase. Passing on the Non-Voter Disease counts as an action but can be used alongside their main role action. The effect is announced by the Host at the start of the Day Phase.

 

[Juviii]

You mean there is a way in the rules to have healthy town as secondary role? Temp roles?

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Maybe DD need to sicky Erin twice xD

There's always a way. Tbh it should become secondary. But it's primary yes so might be true. We have DD to find out.

 

[Shad]

The Real Town
Erin should be safe for now.
Misha is MVP, I'm ready to be carried to victory!
Xad is good today as well, the case where it is a mafia throwing another mafia under the buss is extremely unlikely.
Juviii 'supported' the jinx lynch, it not likely she would throw a teammate under the bus, she could have agreed with switching to raven instead.
And of course in the supporting role Shad.

We can't kill today.
As long as DD uses sicky every night, we have no reason to lynch him, not if there is something better to lynch, plus we need him tonight to use it on erin and he can't be the killer.

Brandish? If we can agree on a lynch we should.

The pray!
Demonspeed, Belserion, Desin24. Raven

2 of are mafia, I'm open to voting any depending on how today discussion goes, but my current bet is on @Raven (I'm open to discussions when you join).

@votekill raven

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I just saw she has a penality vote, what is that for?

 

[Baka Taichou]

I just saw she has a penality vote, what is that for?

not voting at least once