read properly lol. stop talking bullshit. get suzaku above natsu and dogramag before putting hm against igneel. also mashima recently said prime igneel is relative to acno in strength. half dead igneel was beating acno's ass even with slayer advantage and magic advantage acno lost an arm
Right after Natsu admitted that he would've die if he had put of any his magic into attacking, he had nothing that can match abyss.
The scales of the fire dragon king>his AP.
1 chapter after.
Natsu: let's just agree i won and leave it at that.
Suzaku: i refuse! Why would i agree to that?! I WAS WINNING WHEN WE STOPPED!.
Suzaku had Natsu overpowerd and he lucky Ignia came.
Lol, since when losing to Dogramag is a bad thing?
Dogramag (even in his human form) is above any version of Natsu, either 100 yq DF or FOE which is stronger even than FH Zeref.
FH Zeref should be around pre sbt Acnologia level, he might be even closer to him than what Igneel was (to a weaker Acnologia btw).
I believe that Dogramag is far above anyone except the FP five dragon god, and maybe Acnologia.
For prime Elefseria i also think it's debatable.
As for "prime Igneel", i wasn't talking about him because many ppl believe that "prime Igneel" is not exists by few reasons.
The fact he was defeated 400 years ago by a weaker Acnologia, or cuz Zeref said that the dragons were weakened 400 years ago and etc.
As for Mashima i heard he said that "prime Igneel" is on par with pre sbt Acnologia (idk if he even referred to alvarez Acnologia)
By the way, I dunno Mashima even knows what is "prime Igneel"