Canon Suzaku vs Erza Scarlet

[FireIce]

It was all off screen though.
And we saw on screen that Natsu was easily dominating her with just his LFD mode. Suzaku is comparable to FDK Natsu.
I believe Duke said he was no match for her because he had no magic.

 

[sree]

It was all off screen though.
And we saw off screen that Natsu was easily dominating her with just his LFD mode. Suzaku is comparable to FDK Natsu.
I believe Duke said he was no match for her because he had no magic.

We have seen her dealing on screen Erza, Jellal, Gray and Lucy effortlessly.

 

[FireIce]

When she had Natsu's power.

With just Wendy and Rogue's power, she was losing to LFD Natsu. Either Jellal or Erza would beat her handily without that.
Plus, it sounds obvious to me that she's using dragon slaying magic at a higher level than them as she is able to heal herself while Wendy cannot as already established.

 

[sree]

When she had Natsu's power.

With just Wendy and Rogue's power, she was losing to LFD Natsu. Either Jellal or Erza would beat her handily without that.
Plus, it sounds obvious to me that she's using dragon slaying magic at a higher level than them as she is able to heal herself while Wendy cannot as already established.

Yeah I meant her using all the DS power that she had stolen including Natsu's.

 

[Axiomus]

Natsu is already back up and in good enough fighting shape to essentially oneshot Duke, even with a good portion of his magic taken. When Suzaku fought Natsu and Erza, they had to be healed by Wendy and were unconscious for several minutes.

 

[Sevently]

Athena II would murder Suzaku for the only one reason that she was introduced after him.

 

[sree]

Athena 2 will still wash him with all those three stolen magic including Natsu's. Whiteout is enough. The only reason Natsu got up was his Lightning dragon element not taken away.

 

[WoWfan]

Natsu is already back up and in good enough fighting shape to essentially oneshot Duke, even with a good portion of his magic taken. When Suzaku fought Natsu and Erza, they had to be healed by Wendy and were unconscious for several minutes.

And they were already though their own fight and Erza could even react to Suzaku, just not the best defense type items to use.

 

[Axiomus]

Athena 2 will still wash him with all those three stolen magic including Natsu's. Whiteout is enough. The only reason Natsu got up was his Lightning dragon element not taken away.

Suzaku could cut Selene's magic, and tank attacks from Ignia and Dogramag. He also tanked an FDK destruction fist from Natsu. Duke was the one who took Natsu's fire magic from him. Besides, I'm strictly talking about fighting ability.

 

[Darklord#10]

Suzaku would speed blitz Athena 2

 

[WoWfan]

Suzaku could cut Selene's magic, and tank attacks from Ignia and Dogramag. He also tanked an FDK destruction fist from Natsu. Duke was the one who took Natsu's fire magic from him. Besides, I'm strictly talking about fighting ability.

Not best magic as Selene was playing him, same with Ignia and Suzaku, and Natsu could tank Suzaku’s best as well.

 

[sree]

Suzaku could cut Selene's magic, and tank attacks from Ignia and Dogramag. He also tanked an FDK destruction fist from Natsu. Duke was the one who took Natsu's fire magic from him. Besides, I'm strictly talking about fighting ability.

Duke wasn't. It was clearly mentioned it was Athena 2. But Suzaku could do nothing to Dogramag who was weaker than Selene. Inconsistent writing, pretty much.

 

[Axiomus]

Where was it mentioned that it was Athena who took Natsu's magic? Wendy and Rogue's powers both returned to them when Natsu punched out Duke. If Natsu starts using fire next chapter too, then we'll have our answer.

Dogramag's rocks is just tougher than Selene's skin and FDK scales.

 

[WoWfan]

Where was it mentioned that it was Athena who took Natsu's magic? Wendy and Rogue's powers both returned to them when Natsu punched out Duke. If Natsu starts using fire next chapter too, then we'll have our answer.

Dogramag's rocks is just tougher than Selene's skin and FDK scales.

Nothing really stated that Dog Dude’s rocks are tougher than Selene’s skin, he could physically break his own rocks but that he is still weaker than Selene, so Selene’s stats would be greater than Dog Dude’s. Selene in base power flex could enlarge the moon, something Dog Dude never did.

 

[Axiomus]

Nothing really stated that Dog Dude’s rocks are tougher than Selene’s skin, he could physically break his own rocks but that he is still weaker than Selene, so Selene’s stats would be greater than Dog Dude’s. Selene in base power flex could enlarge the moon, something Dog Dude never did.

We don't need statements when we can see that Suzaku can cut Selene's skin, but not Dogramag's rocks.

 

[sree]

Where was it mentioned that it was Athena who took Natsu's magic? Wendy and Rogue's powers both returned to them when Natsu punched out Duke. If Natsu starts using fire next chapter too, then we'll have our answer.

Dogramag's rocks is just tougher than Selene's skin and FDK scales.

Mentioned in the chapter. Duke did take both of their magic though. It was just shown. Athena is facing Athena 2. If she beats Athena 2 offscreen, Natsu will get back his fire.

But still he was the weakest Dragon God. Suzaku could cut Selene only because she let him to. And there is no proof or mention Dogramag rocks were stronger than Selene's skin.

 

[WoWfan]

We don't need statements when we can see that Suzaku can cut Selene's skin, but not Dogramag's rocks.

That was when she was not even at her best even before flexing her power. Plus she can teleport things directly into the rock material and they are just gone.

 

[Axiomus]

Mentioned in the chapter. Duke did take both of their magic though. It was just shown. Athena is facing Athena 2. If she beats Athena 2 offscreen, Natsu will get back his fire.

But still he was the weakest Dragon God. Suzaku could cut Selene only because she let him to. And there is no proof or mention Dogramag rocks were stronger than Selene's skin.

Where? There's no statement that Athena II was the one who took Natsu's powers. Athena II hasnt even shown the ability to use whiteout.

There is proof that Dogramag's rocks are harder than human Selene's skin. Suzaku can cut the latter, but not the former. It's plainly shown, so a statement is unnecessary. Selene says so herself that she fought Suzaku seriously, and that she's no match for Suzaku in her human form.

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That was when she was not even at her best even before flexing her power. Plus she can teleport things directly into the rock material and they are just gone.

Suzaku beat Selene after she started flexing her MP and enlarged the moon.

 

[sree]

Where? There's no statement that Athena II was the one who took Natsu's powers. Athena II hasnt even shown the ability to use whiteout.

There is proof that Dogramag's rocks are harder than human Selene's skin. Suzaku can cut the latter, but not the former. It's plainly shown, so a statement is unnecessary. Selene says so herself that she fought Suzaku seriously, and that she's no match for Suzaku in her human form.

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Suzaku beat Selene after she started flexing her MP and enlarged the moon.

Read the chapter. It is there. She has whiteout. There is even a gesture for that.

What proof is there? Except Suzaku cutting Selene and not cutting Dogramag. Selene also said she was faking her defeat to reach Georg. And there is no proof that she wasn't lying. There is ample proof where Selene seemingly was lying about her motives. Like her using Faris and trying to locate Athena.

Natsu was hitting Athena 2 who did not have his fire power. With his power, she was dominating all.

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Suzaku beat Selene after she started flexing her MP and enlarged the moon.

He beat Selene only because she let him to to reach Georg for her revenge.

 

[WoWfan]

Where? There's no statement that Athena II was the one who took Natsu's powers. Athena II hasnt even shown the ability to use whiteout.

There is proof that Dogramag's rocks are harder than human Selene's skin. Suzaku can cut the latter, but not the former. It's plainly shown, so a statement is unnecessary. Selene says so herself that she fought Suzaku seriously, and that she's no match for Suzaku in her human form.

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Suzaku beat Selene after she started flexing her MP and enlarged the moon.

She planned on losing so she could get to his master, she even said she wouldn’t mind losing.