Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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Dogramag still had five cores left. So he should still be slightly stronger than before he died. People tend to forget that those cores were a power up for dogramag so it's not an antifeat for either natsu and suzaku. People try to act as if natsu and suzaku teaming up is a bad thing or it's an anti feat when that's not the case. Selene was going to recruit natsu after he defeated aldoron and then she changed her mind after she encountered suzaku. Selene flat out admitted she couldn't beat suzaku in human form so he scales above her. I don't see any reason for selene to lie to suzaku in her dragon form cuz it wouldn't matter either way she was still going to take the guild.

Nobody debates with wowfan lmao. The same dude who thinks Irene is stronger than human acnologia. You don't have a discussion with someone who thinks "Irene" is stronger than acnologia.
I was given a page that literally didn't mean anything regarding to power levels at all. Well thanks for the tip, I will not continue debating with that guy if he thinks Irene is stronger than Acnologia. Now I know his true colors.
 

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I was given a page that literally didn't mean anything regarding to power levels at all. Well thanks for the tip, I will not continue debating with that guy if he thinks Irene is stronger than Acnologia. Now I know his true colors.
He deliberately misinterprets my claims for his own benefits. FYI. Also the page is not about power levels, but about Selene’s intentions to lose.



These are like similar people that claim that stats don’t change between human and dragon transformations
 
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You deadass said Irene is stronger than acnologia. Liar
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I was given a page that literally didn't mean anything regarding to power levels at all. Well thanks for the tip, I will not continue debating with that guy if he thinks Irene is stronger than Acnologia. Now I know his true colors.
🤣🤣🤣 I think it's cuz you weren't really paying much attention to the conversations during the peak of ddsk vs s12 debates. Wowfan said Lucy is star level or some shit like that
 

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If you take anything from the context, it is merely to show how illogical is to compare DDK to DG since they screwed them over numerous times.
 

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He deliberately misinterprets my claims for his own benefits. FYI. Also the page is not about power levels, but about Selene’s intentions to lose.



These are like similar people that claim that stats don’t change between human and dragon transformations
Uh, I thought the title of this thread is Power Ranking. So discussing about power levels is relevant here.

So what? You put that page but don't include the fact Selene admitted her lost to Suzaku.
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You deadass said Irene is stronger than acnologia. Liar
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🤣🤣🤣 I think it's cuz you weren't really paying much attention to the conversations during the peak of ddsk vs s12 debates. Wowfan said Lucy is star level or some shit like that
Yeah, I don't think I was there that time. But I have seen some comments here regarding Irene and Acnologia.
Wait seriously? Lucy isn't even star level to begin with nor she has performed any star level feats.
 

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Uh, I thought the title of this thread is Power Ranking. So discussing about power levels is relevant here.

So what? You put that page but don't include the fact Selene admitted her lost to Suzaku.
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Yeah, I don't think I was there that time. But I have seen some comments here regarding Irene and Acnologia.
Wait seriously? Lucy isn't even star level to begin with nor she has performed any star level feats.
It is about the fight itself, it shows that she through the fight just so she can get to his master, She even confirms this, which further shows she is being Modest with her comment since she can do things Suzaku can’t in human form, because that is her nature, screwing around.

And for context about DL’s misinterpretation, it is with Goffried and it is with Yukino and Hisui which they moved stars.
 

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That is questionable, Selene tricked him so she could get to his master and kill him. Which showed when Suzaku could not even damage the likes of Dog Dude who is not only weaker than Selene, but is in human form and is weakened when he woke up. But Haku went all out knowing that he would make Wendy his girlfriend if he wins.
Why you keep putting this forward, like the more reasonable answer isn't simply Selene lost as a human, then took advantage of that instead of transforming then and there because her target was who killer her kid and she's no dummy.

Why would we compare Selene's durability to the literal Earth Dragon who's designed around durability....
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Also, and you always ignore this point like it doesn't end the entire argument. Her feat of changing the moons size by powering up, happened. The moon changed, we all read it. Suzaku took all those attacks she then used and returned in kind. Selene being stronger than that in Human form, if she indeed is holding back and is sooo much stronger than what she showcased...

WOULDNT MEAN JACK SHIT!!!

It's been literal years at this point and im confused why this isn't understood across the board. Suzaku scales to the attacks he took and defended. Period. He continue to fight and respond with power easily equal to what was shown. Soo he scales to that. Per the lie, he scales above what human Selene showcased in that fight weather that's her peak human form strength or not. Selene being stronger, hiding strength, transforming, blasting off to the moon would not change that he has the feats of matching that level of power in combat. What is there to argue about. It's a Large planetary feat by most calcs, planetary by others. An he scales to it just off the fight. Regardless of if she was holding back or not. The moon wasn't. Like can we move on at this point...
 

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Why you keep putting this forward, like the more reasonable answer isn't simply Selene lost as a human, then took advantage of that instead of transforming then and there because her target was who killer her kid and she's no dummy.

Why would we compare Selene's durability to the literal Earth Dragon who's designed around durability....
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Also, and you always ignore this point like it doesn't end the entire argument. Her feat of changing the moons size by powering up, happened. The moon changed, we all read it. Suzaku took all those attacks she then used and returned in kind. Selene being stronger than that in Human form, if she indeed is holding back and is sooo much stronger than what she showcased...

WOULDNT MEAN JACK SHIT!!!

It's been literal years at this point and im confused why this isn't understood across the board. Suzaku scales to the attacks he took and defended. Period. He continue to fight and respond with power easily equal to what was shown. Soo he scales to that. Per the lie, he scales above what human Selene showcased in that fight weather that's her peak human form strength or not. Selene being stronger, hiding strength, transforming, blasting off to the moon would not change that he has the feats of matching that level of power in combat. What is there to argue about. It's a Large planetary feat by most calcs, planetary by others. An he scales to it just off the fight. Regardless of if she was holding back or not. The moon wasn't. Like can we move on at this point...
My point is that even if she believes Suzaku to beat her, she may have overestimated him since he could not damage Dog dude’s stones but she could in human form, heck she didn’t even tell her teammates that they can’t damage the labyrinth or what to expect inside. Magic power reflects the physical stats of beings in Fairy Tail, because of DGs being above Dog Dude would make Selene more durable, Dog Dude may use earth to specialize in durability, but if his dragon form stones can be affected by human form Selene’s magic then it still won’t scale. She could easily just powered down so she could lose, Suzaku even confirmed this when that happened and she said she wouldn’t mind losing. Selene likes to play around, she only only said she got a little serious even, it just shows she just seeks a good time. It is not like a spell goes away when a person is not even going all out after they put in some effort to perform it in the first place, Irene’s U1 does that too, or Laxus’ Thunder Palace.
 

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How I imagine fairy tail characters when I read...planet level...

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Hours ago, in a live broadcast of Fairy Tail episodes in Japan, Mashima put up some power numbers for dragon slayers......



At first he said 7000 and then changed it to 8000


About 1000



600+ main character buffs


500
 

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How I imagine fairy tail characters when I read...planet level...

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Hours ago, in a live broadcast of Fairy Tail episodes in Japan, Mashima put up some power numbers for dragon slayers......



At first he said 7000 and then changed it to 8000


About 1000



600+ main character buffs


500
What about the others? Like gajeel Wendy
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How I imagine fairy tail characters when I read...planet level...

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Hours ago, in a live broadcast of Fairy Tail episodes in Japan, Mashima put up some power numbers for dragon slayers......



At first he said 7000 and then changed it to 8000


About 1000



600+ main character buffs


500
Honestly looking back at it. It makes perfect sense that the dragon gods have to be nerfed and it also makes sense how aldoron had 1 billion HP. This is probably the first time I'm agreeing with mashima's power assessment. Laxus is stronger than natsu on a regular basis apart from the additional MC buffs. It's also good he acknowledged the MC buffs 😂 in the other times it kinda felt he was avoiding it just to obey the status quo
 

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What about the others? Like gajeel Wendy
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He didn't talk about them but they definitely like cobra, since they are weaker than Natsu
 
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“They”?
wendy, gajeel, sting, rogue....Do you think they are at his level?
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But this just shows us that the writer is focusing more on the main character's additional powers instead of Natsu's base, which is frankly ridiculous and a temporary solution.........All these fights that Natsu fought, his power was supposed to be at least 3000, without mc buffs.....but 600 :epicfacepalm
 

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wendy, gajeel, sting, rogue....Do you think they are at his level?
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But this just shows us that the writer is focusing more on the main character's additional powers instead of Natsu's base, which is frankly ridiculous and a temporary solution.........All these fights that Natsu fought, his power was supposed to be at least 3000, without mc buffs.....but 600 :epicfacepalm
I think it comes down to states and all that, with Wendy's full potential she could match Natsu in base, Gajeel, eh needs something new, Sting and Rogue, likely below.
 

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It's kinda scary that in 2024 people still think Lucy is stronger than Erza or Mira. You have to be literally blind to think like this
 

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It's kinda scary that in 2024 people still think Lucy is stronger than Erza or Mira. You have to be literally blind to think like this
Who are these people you're talking about?I don't see such people in this forum. It's so annoying seeing your hate posts towards Lucy and clearly stirring the pot for Lucy fans here. What people said about you was right,you toxicity is on different level.
 

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Who are these people you're talking about?I don't see such people in this forum. It's so annoying seeing your hate posts towards Lucy and clearly stirring the pot for Lucy fans here. What people said about you was right,you toxicity is on different level.
Did I say they were in this forum?
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What people said about you was right,you toxicity is on different level.
Okay buddy
 

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My point is that even if she believes Suzaku to beat her, she may have overestimated him since he could not damage Dog dude’s stones but she could in human form, heck she didn’t even tell her teammates that they can’t damage the labyrinth or what to expect inside. Magic power reflects the physical stats of beings in Fairy Tail, because of DGs being above Dog Dude would make Selene more durable, Dog Dude may use earth to specialize in durability, but if his dragon form stones can be affected by human form Selene’s magic then it still won’t scale. She could easily just powered down so she could lose, Suzaku even confirmed this when that happened and she said she wouldn’t mind losing. Selene likes to play around, she only only said she got a little serious even, it just shows she just seeks a good time. It is not like a spell goes away when a person is not even going all out after they put in some effort to perform it in the first place, Irene’s U1 does that too, or Laxus’ Thunder Palace.
You wrote an entire post, just to ignore the point. There is nothing to assume. Selene's opinion isn't relevant here. If she was holding back isn't relevant. The moon feat happened, based on the amount of power she displayed in that fight. Suzaku took all those attack and continues to return attacks in kind. He scales to all of that. Nothing changes that. Not a sentence, not a word. If they later have Selene do a waaaay bigger feat in human form. Suzaku still scales to that moon feat and that battle, because it happened. Dogramag is the weakest Dragon. He struggled with his stones. Everybody human couldn't mess with them. He still scales to the feat he was there for. The attack she powered up to do and he took and kept fighting. That doesn't change. It's immutable. Krillin is a planet buster. Any real DBZ villian normally swats him until the big final team battle side character attacks, but he's still a planet buster because he's leagues stronger than Saiyan arc characters. He doesn't lose that because the villian of the arc once again shit stomped him. He's as strong as he's been proven to be. Their just stronger. Suzaku doesn't lose the feat because of later performance. It simply means those characters are stronger than that feat. I'm not sure what about that concept keeps tripping you up. Selene is shown to have better feats later, that turns the moon feat even more casual, not means it suddenly didn't happen. Suzaku scales directly to this. Because he took that attack and immediately hit back. It was still a fight that happened.
 

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You wrote an entire post, just to ignore the point. There is nothing to assume. Selene's opinion isn't relevant here. If she was holding back isn't relevant. The moon feat happened, based on the amount of power she displayed in that fight. Suzaku took all those attack and continues to return attacks in kind. He scales to all of that. Nothing changes that. Not a sentence, not a word. If they later have Selene do a waaaay bigger feat in human form. Suzaku still scales to that moon feat and that battle, because it happened. Dogramag is the weakest Dragon. He struggled with his stones. Everybody human couldn't mess with them. He still scales to the feat he was there for. The attack she powered up to do and he took and kept fighting. That doesn't change. It's immutable. Krillin is a planet buster. Any real DBZ villian normally swats him until the big final team battle side character attacks, but he's still a planet buster because he's leagues stronger than Saiyan arc characters. He doesn't lose that because the villian of the arc once again shit stomped him. He's as strong as he's been proven to be. Their just stronger. Suzaku doesn't lose the feat because of later performance. It simply means those characters are stronger than that feat. I'm not sure what about that concept keeps tripping you up. Selene is shown to have better feats later, that turns the moon feat even more casual, not means it suddenly didn't happen. Suzaku scales directly to this. Because he took that attack and immediately hit back. It was still a fight that happened.
show don’t tell, that is what the series failed to do to convey Selene is weaker than Suzaku, Selene was playing around with him, in the fact. she didn’t throw the moon at him would suggest otherwise, like how Merc could and his power was halved, and there is a statement that supports his roar is his strongest at the time. Wendy could break his stones, no question there. Selene can break his stones as A human, no denying that.
 

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Why are we using Suzaku not being able to injured Dogramrog as an anti-feat when it was literally stated that Dogramrog was using Elferseria's heart as a catalyst to store up energy in chapter 108, so it's obvious the man got stronger since then. Like please let's be simple about this instead of arguing in bad faith.
 
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