American Politics

[M3J]

Just because you've never heard a non-white person say that, doesn't mean they don't exist.

Behold.

Black Hammer Party - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Black Hammer Party, formerly the Black Hammer Organization and commonly known as the Black Hammers, is a Black nationalist group that advocates black separatism, conservatism, decolonization, and political violence. The organization was founded in Atlanta, Georgia in 2019, by ex-members of the African People's Socialist Party, and has undergone a transition from far-left politics to far-right politics. It rose to prominence in the early 2020s amidst the George Floyd protests and the 2020–2023 United States racial unrest, when it attempted to construct a compound in the Rocky Mountains which it named "Hammer City."[7][8][9]

Kodzo is known for his controversial social media presence. On January 24, 2021, he released a video wearing Joker makeup and calling Holocaust victim Anne Frank a "bleach demon," a "colonizer," a "parasite", and a "Karen," and claiming that he was going to burn copies of her diary for warmth.[13][14][15] According to The Forward, the group's membership began to decline around early August 2021 due to "Kevin Rashid Johnson of the New Afrikan Black Panther Party [accusing] the organization of being an undercover right-wing group trying to sow division within leftist movements."[16]


So what is the word for a black person who hates white people because of their race?

From that link, it seems they started out with good intentions but once someone else took over, things went south. I've learned enough about USA's actual history that I'm not going to even think about policing what Black people say or do, given everything they've gone through. However, what The Black Hammer Party became is beyond fucked up and the same as the Nazis or KKK.


Out of curiosity, what do you think about diversity and DEI? Against it? Support it? Think it's detrimental? Think it evens up the field a bit?

As far as i can tell there isn't an ongoing issue of the police getting violent with universities' staff. There's an ongoing issue of protesters taking over campuses and the staff calling the police.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/11/us/professors-campus-arrests-invs/index.html

From UCLA to Columbia, Professors Nationwide Defend Students as Politicians and Police Attack

University faculty from UCLA to Columbia have put their bodies and livelihoods on the line amid a brutal, violent response to student protests for Gaza.

theintercept.com

I am not saying anything out of my ass, it's almost always based on what I see, which I fact check almost all the time, since I know the left can get things wrong or misinform.



Also, anyone's thoughts on Harrison Butker?

 

[kkck]

From that link, it seems they started out with good intentions but once someone else took over, things went south. I've learned enough about USA's actual history that I'm not going to even think about policing what Black people say or do, given everything they've gone through. However, what The Black Hammer Party became is beyond fucked up and the same as the Nazis or KKK.


Out of curiosity, what do you think about diversity and DEI? Against it? Support it? Think it's detrimental? Think it evens up the field a bit?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/11/us/professors-campus-arrests-invs/index.html

From UCLA to Columbia, Professors Nationwide Defend Students as Politicians and Police Attack

University faculty from UCLA to Columbia have put their bodies and livelihoods on the line amid a brutal, violent response to student protests for Gaza.

theintercept.com

I am not saying anything out of my ass, it's almost always based on what I see, which I fact check almost all the time, since I know the left can get things wrong or misinform.



Also, anyone's thoughts on Harrison Butker?

Welp, but of those articles are framing that poorly. First of all, the cnn article is talking about 50 arrested faculty... against 2400 arrested students. And the cops didn't appear magically to squash palestine supporters, they were called by the university's staff (obviously not the same that got arrested). I suppose you could make a case that some staff are rabid supporters of israel or something like that but in the vast majority of cases it's just people who don't want the campuses they run to be seiged/vandalized and for the rest of students to go to class.

 

[ninjabot]

A video explaining the differences between Trump and Biden, btw. For anyone that believes they're the same. *cough*

 

[catagon87]

I don't think I've ever seen any non-white person say that, that'd be fucked up. Many of them who would come across as "reverse racist" like white people who are allies and hate people like David Duke, who is a bigot.

Serious question: have you been to Asia? I had way more issues as a half-white person in Japan than I did being a half-Japanese person in the USA (I don't look white at all). In the USA it literally never came up here beyond people asking me out of curiosity in high school. Middle school in Japan was hell though as quite a few kids (and their parents) were pretty insistent on excluding me from anything and telling them how the dirty hafu will corrupt them.

I always found it weird how touchy the USA is about race though. People are so blatant about it in Asia. There's no negative repercussions to being openly racist in Japan as long as your target is non-Japanese. In the USA curiosity can be perceived as racism (something as simple as asking someone where they're from) and most of the time the touchiest people aren't even members of the group they claim is being victimized. It's a mindfuck.

This is all aside from the fact that there are quite a few ethnic cleansing happening in the world right now, and the majority of them are not being done by the whites of the West. Several are going on in Central Africa (Sudan), there's a few in Asia (Myanmar, Uyghurs in China), India, and Syria is also eliminating non-Sunni-Muslims (which includes Shia and Christians).

 

[ninjabot]

I always found it weird how touchy the USA is about race though. People are so blatant about it in Asia. There's no negative repercussions to being openly racist in Japan as long as your target is non-Japanese. In the USA curiosity can be perceived as racism (something as simple as asking someone where they're from) and most of the time the touchiest people aren't even members of the group they claim is being victimized. It's a mindfuck.

It's because in the US, your black neighbor is probably a kid who's great great great grandfather was owned by YOUR great great great grandfather, lol. Generational trauma is a real thing. Also, Japan is so homogenous that even when doing something wrong they get the benefit of the doubt to just say "Majority rules. We're not going to change our cultural beliefs for less than 1 percent of our population. You don't like it? Take your ass back to the US gaijin."

America is majority white, but not enough that all the whites here can survive a civil war of all the minority groups coming together to de-mayonnaise the population.

Also, there's the problem of white guilt and first-world luxury allowing us to worry about more things than just where our food and shelter comes from. Everyone wants to be the good guy and you do that by helping the poor people that are less fortunate than yourself. Some people, because they're looking for identity in either their religious or political beliefs, let them take over and become their driving force for everything they do. And the more they want to feel "seen", the harder they fight for those beliefs. Ergo... the current protests.

 

[kkck]

Serious question: have you been to Asia? I had way more issues as a half-white person in Japan than I did being a half-Japanese person in the USA (I don't look white at all). In the USA it literally never came up here beyond people asking me out of curiosity in high school. Middle school in Japan was hell though as quite a few kids (and their parents) were pretty insistent on excluding me from anything and telling them how the dirty hafu will corrupt them.

I always found it weird how touchy the USA is about race though. People are so blatant about it in Asia. There's no negative repercussions to being openly racist in Japan as long as your target is non-Japanese. In the USA curiosity can be perceived as racism (something as simple as asking someone where they're from) and most of the time the touchiest people aren't even members of the group they claim is being victimized. It's a mindfuck.

This is all aside from the fact that there are quite a few ethnic cleansing happening in the world right now, and the majority of them are not being done by the whites of the West. Several are going on in Central Africa (Suden), there's a few in Asia (Myanmar, Uyghurs in China), India, and Syria is also eliminating non-Sunni-Muslims (which includes Shia and Christians).

In the virtue-signalese language it is impossible for non white folk to ever be racist. Even if they were it would be impossible to put together a sentence that would convey it. It's a thing of beauty honestly.

 

[ninjabot]

Just wanna emphasize that I posted a link to a black separatist group that hates white people and he (M3J) still wouldn't accept that black people could be racist.

I am an African American male who was born and raised in North Carolina, one of the more racist southern countries in America. And even I have seen instances of racism against white people. And I'm not a conservative. I'm not even a centrist, I'm a Social Democrat.

The behavior of leftists push me further away from identifying as a progressive because they make us look crazy.

 

[catagon87]

Just wanna emphasize that I posted a link to a black separatist group that hates white people and he (M3J) still wouldn't accept that black people could be racist.

I am an African American male who was born and raised in North Carolina, one of the more racist southern countries in America. And even I have seen instances of racism against white people. And I'm not a conservative. I'm not even a centrist, I'm a Social Democrat.

The behavior of leftists push me further away from identifying as a progressive because they make us look crazy.

Racism is simply the idea of a particular race having superior traits to another. It's one of those things where marginalized groups are more likely to be victims of racism than perpetrators, but that's definitely not a requirement to being racist. It's like saying "Only large objects can be heavy." A large object is more likely to be heavy, but density matters. I've witnessed non-white relatives first hand claiming racial superiority over other Asian races.

I feel like the problem with all of the arguments on this thread is that nuance is basically dead here. It's kind of exhausting to read. Some of it reads out like a literal parody on Social Justice Warriors and can be a bit hard to believe. I sometimes feel like these insanely hard-lined beliefs start as a parody then get developed into a serious belief system by some.

 

[M3J]

Welp, but of those articles are framing that poorly. First of all, the cnn article is talking about 50 arrested faculty... against 2400 arrested students. And the cops didn't appear magically to squash palestine supporters, they were called by the university's staff (obviously not the same that got arrested). I suppose you could make a case that some staff are rabid supporters of israel or something like that but in the vast majority of cases it's just people who don't want the campuses they run to be seiged/vandalized and for the rest of students to go to class.

There is an ongoing issue of cops getting violent with the staff and arresting them, whether it's one or fifty.

But the point is to silence Palestine supporters, violently or otherwise. People don't care about the campuses being sieged or vandalized or if students go to class, they just don't want Palestine supporters doing it. If it was Israeli supporters, they'd support them.

Serious question: have you been to Asia? I had way more issues as a half-white person in Japan than I did being a half-Japanese person in the USA (I don't look white at all). In the USA it literally never came up here beyond people asking me out of curiosity in high school. Middle school in Japan was hell though as quite a few kids (and their parents) were pretty insistent on excluding me from anything and telling them how the dirty hafu will corrupt them.

I always found it weird how touchy the USA is about race though. People are so blatant about it in Asia. There's no negative repercussions to being openly racist in Japan as long as your target is non-Japanese. In the USA curiosity can be perceived as racism (something as simple as asking someone where they're from) and most of the time the touchiest people aren't even members of the group they claim is being victimized. It's a mindfuck.

This is all aside from the fact that there are quite a few ethnic cleansing happening in the world right now, and the majority of them are not being done by the whites of the West. Several are going on in Central Africa (Sudan), there's a few in Asia (Myanmar, Uyghurs in China), India, and Syria is also eliminating non-Sunni-Muslims (which includes Shia and Christians).

Aren't Japanese people bigoted in general against anyone that's not Japanese?

There's barely any repercussion in USA as well, and whatever repercussions there are are often minor. People in USA are touchy because of the history of racism, where Black people were attacked and lynched, Asians faced violence, and etc. Even still happens. Tulsa, OK massacre? Emmett Till? And often the murderers face little to no punishment, or they used to not have to worry.

We're talking about the west though.

Just wanna emphasize that I posted a link to a black separatist group that hates white people and he (M3J) still wouldn't accept that black people could be racist.

I am an African American male who was born and raised in North Carolina, one of the more racist southern countries in America. And even I have seen instances of racism against white people. And I'm not a conservative. I'm not even a centrist, I'm a Social Democrat.

The behavior of leftists push me further away from identifying as a progressive because they make us look crazy.

If they know USA's true history and react from that, then why would I call them racist?

Whereas liberals would rather say "we should hear out racists and misogynists!" and give them platform that just helps them spread their BS.




Anyhow, I read that there are two conservative judges that may retire. If they retire during Trump's presidency, he'll replace them with young conservatives, while if they choose to retire during Biden's, he might replace them with moderate or right leaning judges. Interesting thing to think about, but also a reason why I'm hoping Trump loses.

 

[ninjabot]

If they know USA's true history and react from that, then why would I call them racist?

Whereas liberals would rather say "we should hear out racists and misogynists!" and give them platform that just helps them spread their BS.

Because they don't hate SOME white people, they hate ALL white people. Unless you agree with them that all white people are racist. Do you?

Does the burning of Anne Frank's diary by them not count as racism because Anne Frank would likely have been a Zionist if she lived to be an old lady

And as for the bolded: you don't beat bad ideas by pretending they don't exist, because that helps them grow faster than fighting them with BETTER ideas does. If I had to choose between ignoring David Duke or having someone debate him on his beliefs, I'll always choose the debate (assuming I know the debater is rhetorically gifted enough to win), because telling people they're bad guys is nowhere near as good as SHOWING people they're bad guys.

Anyhow, I read that there are two conservative judges that may retire. If they retire during Trump's presidency, he'll replace them with young conservatives, while if they choose to retire during Biden's, he might replace them with moderate or right leaning judges. Interesting thing to think about, but also a reason why I'm hoping Trump loses.

If you want him to lose, you have a responsibility; an obligation to vote for his opponent.

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Being gay isn't a problem btw. Unless you're a Nazi. And then it's just a problem for them lol.

 

[Newkerzy]

Because they don't hate SOME white people, they hate ALL white people. Unless you agree with them that all white people are racist. Do you?

Does the burning of Anne Frank's diary by them not count as racism because Anne Frank would likely have been a Zionist if she lived to be an old lady

And as for the bolded: you don't beat bad ideas by pretending they don't exist, because that helps them grow faster than fighting them with BETTER ideas does. If I had to choose between ignoring David Duke or having someone debate him on his beliefs, I'll always choose the debate (assuming I know the debater is rhetorically gifted enough to win), because telling people they're bad guys is nowhere near as good as SHOWING people they're bad guys.

By all accounts, folks like David Duke should be ignored and never given a platform. By giving them an opportunity for them to espouse their beliefs in public, you're pretty much giving them what they want.

.....That said, what you're saying isn't wrong either. I just think you might be using the wrong example in this scenario.

 

[M3J]

Because they don't hate SOME white people, they hate ALL white people. Unless you agree with them that all white people are racist. Do you?

Does the burning of Anne Frank's diary by them not count as racism because Anne Frank would likely have been a Zionist if she lived to be an old lady

And as for the bolded: you don't beat bad ideas by pretending they don't exist, because that helps them grow faster than fighting them with BETTER ideas does. If I had to choose between ignoring David Duke or having someone debate him on his beliefs, I'll always choose the debate (assuming I know the debater is rhetorically gifted enough to win), because telling people they're bad guys is nowhere near as good as SHOWING people they're bad guys.



If you want him to lose, you have a responsibility; an obligation to vote for his opponent.

I don't see how white people are a minority or marginalized. But interestingly, according to Wikipedia, your link, Black Hammer (or Kodzo) claimed to have formed an alliance with Proud Boys, which also further invalidates the claim that they're racist. Why work with a white supremacist organization if you're "racist" against white people? That's like the KKK working with the Black Panthers or BJP (a political party in India) working with any known Muslim organization.

Debatable as many Holocaust survivors and their families oppose the genocide and have publicly supported Palestine. But that aside, Black Hammer seems to be the only example you have? And even then, they went from sane and actually caring about Black people to unhinged and being far right under the new leader/


You prevent bad ideas from spreading by not platforming these people. All platforming does is reassure others who have similar beliefs that they're not alone and that they're valid, no matter how bad the arguments are. This thinking is exactly how we got people like Trump and why racists are more emboldened now.

Lot of people will not think they're the bad guys no matter what they say, especially when they either agree or because they'd rather feel special for being "centrists." I've argued with a lot of conservatives and have listened to them as well, and majority are not good at thinking and are very hateful. And as someone who's argued with centrists, they're more likely to silence liberals and the left and criticize them for saying "racism is bad" than they are the right for being racist.

Platforming hate and bigotry is a horrible idea. I've never seen anyone be convinced that they were wrong or that the person was wrong for having hateful opinions, but that's limited to my observation, which I hope is wrong.

That is not my responsibility or obligation. It is Biden and Dems' responsibility to give people a reason to vote for him, as it should be in a democracy. This is not a good way to win over voters, especially given what has happened domestically under Biden, regardless of Biden's fault or not.

Being gay isn't a problem btw. Unless you're a Nazi. And then it's just a problem for them lol.

Right wingers have a history of being publicly opposed to homosexuality while in private being gay themselves. I think there was a politician who was exposed as grooming or raping an underage boy, but he said he never did anything homosexual or that he's not a homosexual. Didn't even address him preying on an underaged boy.

Conservative GOP Lawmaker Arrested After Allegedly Hiring 17-Year-Old Boy for Sex

Oklahoma State Senator Ralph Shortey was booked on child prostitution charges

www.yahoo.com

I actually don't remember who it was though, but I remember it was years ago.

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Love how people who complain about DEI and diversity are actually exposing themselves as racist

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[kkck]

There is an ongoing issue of cops getting violent with the staff and arresting them, whether it's one or fifty.

But the point is to silence Palestine supporters, violently or otherwise. People don't care about the campuses being sieged or vandalized or if students go to class, they just don't want Palestine supporters doing it. If it was Israeli supporters, they'd support them.

As I said, this isn't happening magically. Sure, there's some staff that has sided with students but it's ultimately the university that is calling the cops. And if the university, which is responsible for it's campus, calls the police and tells them the students and some faculty are causing problems then it makes zero sense for the police to not side with the university. And if the police arrives, asks people to leave and they don't then the next step is clearly arrests and violence. This isn't an issue of police incompetence, it's simply the only way it can work. If you believe that the police should side with students that's a different issue but ultimately it makes zero sense for the police to side with anyone other than the other responsible for the campus.

 

[M3J]

As I said, this isn't happening magically. Sure, there's some staff that has sided with students but it's ultimately the university that is calling the cops. And if the university, which is responsible for it's campus, calls the police and tells them the students and some faculty are causing problems then it makes zero sense for the police to not side with the university. And if the police arrives, asks people to leave and they don't then the next step is clearly arrests and violence. This isn't an issue of police incompetence, it's simply the only way it can work. If you believe that the police should side with students that's a different issue but ultimately it makes zero sense for the police to side with anyone other than the other responsible for the campus.

There literally is no way to defend violence against peaceful protesters, especially when cops are very nonviolent against violent bigots. This is not incompetence, it's cops being useless and serving the wealthy and white supremacy.

The universities likely aren't telling cops that faculty members are causing problems, it's just cops loving to be violent pieces of shit that they are, nothing more nothing less. If Zionists protested violently, cops would be protecting them, not attacking and arresting them like they are to Palestinian supporters.

 

[kkck]

There literally is no way to defend violence against peaceful protesters, especially when cops are very nonviolent against violent bigots. This is not incompetence, it's cops being useless and serving the wealthy and white supremacy.

The universities likely aren't telling cops that faculty members are causing problems, it's just cops loving to be violent pieces of shit that they are, nothing more nothing less. If Zionists protested violently, cops would be protecting them, not attacking and arresting them like they are to Palestinian supporters.

It's perfectly defensible because that's not what is going on here. This is literally the universities in question asking the students to stop, them refusing and then the cops coming in and doing their job. You are simply salty because the university isn't taking the side of the students on this one or just letting them do what they want...

What zionists are even relevant in this? is someone calling the cops on zionists and then the cops ignore whichever zionist?

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And the truth social grift continues, entirely unimpeded by reality. It reports a loss of 340 million while still somehow having it's stock hold up at around 50 bucks per share. Reality is often... something.

 

[ninjabot]

I don't see how white people are a minority or marginalized. But interestingly, according to Wikipedia, your link, Black Hammer (or Kodzo) claimed to have formed an alliance with Proud Boys, which also further invalidates the claim that they're racist. Why work with a white supremacist organization if you're "racist" against white people? That's like the KKK working with the Black Panthers or BJP (a political party in India) working with any known Muslim organization.

The definition specifically says "typically" it happens to marginalized groups. Not exclusively. Typically. And you know what? If you're a white kid growing up in a black neighborhood, you're marginalized anyway, so it's still moot. As for why work for a white supremacist organization remember: there was a big Islamic presence in the Nazi party.

How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII

Tens of thousands of Muslims fought for the Nazis in World War Two. DW spoke with historian David Motadel about whether pragmatism or anti-Semitism drove Adolf Hitler's overtures and why some Muslim leaders backed him.

www.dw.com

Many of those Muslims who worked with the Nazi regime had pragmatic reasons. They believed that Nazi Germany in 1941-1942 would be victorious and that it would determine the future world order and that the Nazis could help them become liberated from, for example, British imperial rule.

The motives of these soldiers varied considerably. Of course some recruits were driven by religious hatred and anti-Bolshevist, ideological fervor. Overall, however, Muslims often had rather profane motives for enlisting.

Did the Nazis really see Islam as something inherently positive or were the Muslims only a means to an end?

Overall, I think that Muslims were means to an end. Nazi policies towards Islam were informed by pragmatism. Some leading Nazis, particularly Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, repeatedly expressed their respect for Islam. Whenever denouncing the Catholic Church, Hitler routinely contrasted it with Islam. While he denounced Catholicism as a weak, effeminate religion, he praised Islam as a strong, aggressive, martial religion. Overall, however, it was strategic considerations, not ideology, that led to Nazi Germany's campaign for Islamic mobilization.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

You prevent bad ideas from spreading by not platforming these people. All platforming does is reassure others who have similar beliefs that they're not alone and that they're valid, no matter how bad the arguments are. This thinking is exactly how we got people like Trump and why racists are more emboldened now.

Fox News is the biggest news outlet. The largest political pundits are chuds like Stephen Crowder, everyone at the Daily Wire, Alex Jones, Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan (largest podcast btw), Russel Brand, Patrick Bet-David and his whole shitty network Valuetainment, Fresh and Fit and everyone in the Redpill community... and kinda Tucker Carlson still.

It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to ignore this much disgusting swill contaminating every form of media. Pretending it isn't there means it gets to infect unsuspecting youths and impressionable adults. It's why so many young men were swallowed up by the Redpill. Because Andrew Tate wasn't dealt with early. If we were there to strangle him in his infancy (his career that is) we could've avoided the rise of assholes like Fresh and Fit and the rest. Same with Jordan Peterson.

Deplatforming is fine in extreme cases but the general rule should be "Face bad ideas head on. Crush them early, and completely."

 

[M3J]

It's perfectly defensible because that's not what is going on here. This is literally the universities in question asking the students to stop, them refusing and then the cops coming in and doing their job. You are simply salty because the university isn't taking the side of the students on this one or just letting them do what they want...

What zionists are even relevant in this? is someone calling the cops on zionists and then the cops ignore whichever zionist?

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And the truth social grift continues, entirely unimpeded by reality. It reports a loss of 340 million while still somehow having it's stock hold up at around 50 bucks per share. Reality is often... something.

They're not doing their job. Beating up peaceful protesters is not doing your job, it's escalating the situation and turning it violent, which is the opposite of what cops are supposed to do. This is common sense! Once again, cops barely do anything to stop crime or even mass shooting (Uvalde), but when there are peaceful protests from BLM supporters or Palestinian supporters, they have no problem getting violent, and only because they know they're safe.

At this point, you're just better off admitting you have very little knowledge about any of these events instead of asking questions like "why are Zionists relevant" and whatnot.

The definition specifically says "typically" it happens to marginalized groups. Not exclusively. Typically. And you know what? If you're a white kid growing up in a black neighborhood, you're marginalized anyway, so it's still moot. As for why work for a white supremacist organization remember: there was a big Islamic presence in the Nazi party.

How Nazis courted the Islamic world during WWII

Tens of thousands of Muslims fought for the Nazis in World War Two. DW spoke with historian David Motadel about whether pragmatism or anti-Semitism drove Adolf Hitler's overtures and why some Muslim leaders backed him.

www.dw.com

Many of those Muslims who worked with the Nazi regime had pragmatic reasons. They believed that Nazi Germany in 1941-1942 would be victorious and that it would determine the future world order and that the Nazis could help them become liberated from, for example, British imperial rule.

The motives of these soldiers varied considerably. Of course some recruits were driven by religious hatred and anti-Bolshevist, ideological fervor. Overall, however, Muslims often had rather profane motives for enlisting.

Did the Nazis really see Islam as something inherently positive or were the Muslims only a means to an end?

Overall, I think that Muslims were means to an end. Nazi policies towards Islam were informed by pragmatism. Some leading Nazis, particularly Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, repeatedly expressed their respect for Islam. Whenever denouncing the Catholic Church, Hitler routinely contrasted it with Islam. While he denounced Catholicism as a weak, effeminate religion, he praised Islam as a strong, aggressive, martial religion. Overall, however, it was strategic considerations, not ideology, that led to Nazi Germany's campaign for Islamic mobilization.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Eh, debatable if a white kid would be marginalized in every Black neighborhood.


Were those Muslims "racist" against white people though? Especially if they wanted liberation?

Fox News is the biggest news outlet. The largest political pundits are chuds like Stephen Crowder, everyone at the Daily Wire, Alex Jones, Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan (largest podcast btw), Russel Brand, Patrick Bet-David and his whole shitty network Valuetainment, Fresh and Fit and everyone in the Redpill community... and kinda Tucker Carlson still.

It is literally IMPOSSIBLE to ignore this much disgusting swill contaminating every form of media. Pretending it isn't there means it gets to infect unsuspecting youths and impressionable adults. It's why so many young men were swallowed up by the Redpill. Because Andrew Tate wasn't dealt with early. If we were there to strangle him in his infancy (his career that is) we could've avoided the rise of assholes like Fresh and Fit and the rest. Same with Jordan Peterson.

Deplatforming is fine in extreme cases but the general rule should be "Face bad ideas head on. Crush them early, and completely."

Does not mean they should be platformed on other media. Keep them platformed amongst the right wing media, and let liberals and left wingers talk on center or left of center media. I've never heard of these right wing pundits hosting left wingers or liberals constantly, but I don't really dabble with that much.

We're not pretending it's not there, we're just not giving voice to the shills on media that's not conservative. If Andrew Tate was not given a platform that he has, not as many young boys would have been radicalized. Or if he was deplatformed, maybe he wouldn't have been able to radicalize as many young boys, instead of claiming "free speech."

Sure, but you don't need to give someone a platform to face bad ideas head on. That's all I'm saying.

 

[xi0]

The last part is incorrect though, this has always been the nature of things. You just can't hide it for history books decades later anymore.

 

[ninjabot]

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Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

 

[M3J]

You mean, Trump would continue what's going on under Biden? The horror!

Also, guys, remember when Israel and Biden accused Hamas of beheading babies, only for that to be a lie? Palestinians have actual proof of Israel beheading babies, but predictably barely gets covered by the media. I mean, if one wants even more proof that the media is biased towards Israel and against Palestine....