Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Cosmicstar]

- Honestly, if Kiria wanted, she could have attacked Lucy on Gemini Star Mix, because Kiria can create cuts with high AOE. So Kiria X Lucy is already the type of battle that needed to the plot work in Lucy's favor. And if it is needed a clear plot to a main character to win, the main character isn't really stronger than his enemy.
- Skullion is the leader of his team, which means his strength is respect enough to make him give orders to Madmole and Kiria. The leader is always the strongest one.
Skullion defeated Gray Devil Slayer and tied with Mirajane, strongest wizards than Lucy, by portrayed and feats.
Remember that Invel said that Gray Devil Slayer could be a Spriggan.
- Lucy was never portrayed as someone who could stand a full battle against LFDM Natsu and make him expend almost all of his MP.
About Lucy and Gajeel against the giant threes: Gajeel was using a casual physical attack while Lucy used a starmix spell and passed out after this. It's like comparing Erza giving a casual punch with Gildarts using Empyrean.
Lucy didn't prove even to have the reaction to counter-attack Gajeel in the shadow.
Gajeel was already enduring a fight against a Spriggan even before using a power-up.

Lucy can't win against any of them without a plot, because all of them can dodge or prevent the conclusion of her strongest spells. But, honestly, I'm tired of discussing that Lucy isn't as strong as some people say, so I will stop it here. For me, she loses to Mirajane, Gajeel, and Gray, but if for you she wins against them, ok then.

Kiria attacks wouldn't do any damage to the water as shown when she cut the water forms and they simply reformed. Add in she couldn't even find Lucy. Beyond that there is no reason Lucy couldn't have used Gemini to transform into Kiria nor transform her into a fish which would have restricted her movements and power. Also before you say she can't. There is nothing in canon that says she can't.

Mirajane doesn't have any feats better than Lucy and as I pointed out with Gray, his battles are circumstantial.

Also I was using Taurus form Lucy not Stardress mix: Aquarius x Scorpio when I made the comparison, so stop it. Gajeel Iron couldn't cut through the Golem but Lucy Taurus punch was able to pierce it.

Also Lucy has already shown great reaction speed. Also Lucy did just as good against a Spriggan or better than a non powered up Gajeel. She was able to destroy Ajeel sand monsters, counter Jacob transport and Stealth magic.

Also you can't dodge Urano Metria nor Gottified as that target locked spells. The area of those spells are way to big to dodge.

It isn't about what I want or you want, but rather what the manga has shown. They don't have better feats than Lucy especially not Gajeel and Mirajane. Also it is funny you mention plot as though it works for Lucy instead of against her. There are many instances where plot worked against her. I would argue it does it more times than not.

Also I know some people will try to take what I said out of context but just because I don't think those characters have better feats doesn't mean I think they will or will not be able to beat her battle.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Kiria's attack that could hit all the water clones and Lucy, preventing the conclusion of Lucy's spell is this one:

It's funny how it's a kind of spell to attack in various angles and to use when you can't pinpoint exactly where the enemy is, but Kiria chose to attack the water clones individually.

 

[kian]

Saying Lucy is stronger than Mirajane is crazy considering their last run in.

If I’m not wrong wasn’t Lucy near deaths door when she fought Kiria and had to be saved by Laxus?

 

[Mimi0207]

Why are people still talking about Laxus saving Lucy when one of her spirits like Leo could have done the same thing ? Laxus saving Lucy is just a development for him as a future guild master but that doesn't mean Lucy didn't solo Kyria especially when her Gottfried knocked her out for at least 10 chapters.

I feel like Mirajane fans are jealous of Lucy's feats and try to put her down when Mirajane couldn't defeat Skullion. And absolutely NOTHING in the manga suggests that Skullion is stronger than Kyria. Is it so hard for some people to admit that Mirajane and Elfman couldn't beat Lucy during the Aldoron arc ? And that ignores that Lucy has become much stronger since then, while Mirajane has shown no improvement.

 

[kian]

Why are people still talking about Laxus saving Lucy when one of her spirits like Leo could have done the same thing ? Laxus saving Lucy is just a development for him as a future guild master but that doesn't mean Lucy didn't solo Kyria especially when her Gottfried knocked her out for at least 10 chapters.

I feel like Mirajane fans are jealous of Lucy's feats and try to put her down when Mirajane couldn't defeat Skullion. And absolutely NOTHING in the manga suggests that Skullion is stronger than Kyria. Is it so hard for some people to admit that Mirajane and Elfman couldn't beat Lucy during the Aldoron arc ? And that ignores that Lucy has become much stronger since then, while Mirajane has shown no improvement.

If Lucy’s spirits could’ve jumped in they would have lmao she couldn’t keep up with Kiria’s absolute slaughter of her.

Obviously Lucy has the huge benefit of being a main character and more screen time but that doesn’t do her much good when Mashima is sticking to S-Class hype at every chance lol.

Mirajane could most definitely have defeated Lucy during aldoron arc and you’d be lying through your teeth if you say she couldn’t. Quite literally pretty plain and simple

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Why are people still talking about Laxus saving Lucy when one of her spirits like Leo could have done the same thing ? Laxus saving Lucy is just a development for him as a future guild master but that doesn't mean Lucy didn't solo Kyria especially when her Gottfried knocked her out for at least 10 chapters.

I feel like Mirajane fans are jealous of Lucy's feats and try to put her down when Mirajane couldn't defeat Skullion. And absolutely NOTHING in the manga suggests that Skullion is stronger than Kyria. Is it so hard for some people to admit that Mirajane and Elfman couldn't beat Lucy during the Aldoron arc ? And that ignores that Lucy has become much stronger since then, while Mirajane has shown no improvement.

Loki could have helped Lucy if Lucy were able to summon him, but she wasn't. Lucy needed two plot maneuvers to not be killed by Kiria: the automatic defense from Holorogium + Gemini and Laxus using his body as shield, because in these situations Lucy couldn't do nothing besides be ripped apart by Kiria's cuts.​

Mirajene is being constantly praised by her strength in the narrative. Natsu wanted to fight her in Aldoron Arc, and both Gray and Lucy keeping praised her power. Heyne and Juliet said that Mirajane possess high magic power, and Lucy doesn't have any enemy saying that about her.​

Mirajane is faster than Lucy, better cqc fighter, can fly, and has the "Mirajane: Alegria" that Lucy didn't prove to tank.​

Lucy isn't a very skilled cqc fighter; Lucy often is portrayed being helpless against quickly sequence of attacks; Lucy's spells that can hurt strong foes drain out her mp completely. These reasons are why wizards that have better physical status than her (Mirajane, Gray and Gajeel) are stronger than her. Thank you.​

 

[Cosmicstar]

Loki could have helped Lucy if Lucy were able to summon him, but she wasn't. Lucy needed two plot maneuvers to not be killed by Kiria: the automatic defense from Holorogium + Gemini and Laxus using his body as shield, because in these situations Lucy couldn't do nothing besides be ripped apart by Kiria's cuts.​

Mirajene is being constantly praised by her strength in the narrative. Natsu wanted to fight her in Aldoron Arc, and both Gray and Lucy keeping praised her power. Heyne and Juliet said that Mirajane possess high magic power, and Lucy doesn't have any enemy saying that about her.​

Mirajane is faster than Lucy, better cqc fighter, can fly, and has the "Mirajane: Alegria" that Lucy didn't prove to tank.​

Lucy isn't a very skilled cqc fighter; Lucy often is portrayed being helpless against quickly sequence of attacks; Lucy's spells that can hurt strong foes drain out her mp completely. These reasons are why wizards that have better physical status than her (Mirajane, Gray and Gajeel) are stronger than her. Thank you.​

Lucy feats outclass the characters you are talking about. The difference between Lucy and those you are talking about such as Mirajane and Gajeel is that Lucy actually has feats compared to the other two whose powers is based on unsupported hype.

Where did you get Mirajane is faster than Lucy? Lucy was easily able to dodge Lissana cat form which was known for speed. Also Mirajane doesn't have better CQC feats. What CQC feats does Mirajane have that Lucy don't? Lucy 100% can fly. Mirajane Algeria took out two fodder swords. That attack is by no means do anything to Lucy.

Mirajane has had ample amounts of fights to prove herself and she just hasn't. Against Sayla she needed Elfman to take her out, against Jacob she needed him to be severely weakened where not only did he not use his magic but also fight her in CQC with his eyes closed and she still struggled against him. She couldn't take Lucy down even with Lissana and Elfman help and she couldn't take Skullion down either.

People overrate Mirajane way to much. She doesn't have the battle nor feats to prove this crappy claims that she can take characters out.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Lucy feats outclass the characters you are talking about. The difference between Lucy and those you are talking about such as Mirajane and Gajeel is that Lucy actually has feats compared to the other two whose powers is based on unsupported hype.

Where did you get Mirajane is faster than Lucy? Lucy was easily able to dodge Lissana cat form which was known for speed. Also Mirajane doesn't have better CQC feats. What CQC feats does Mirajane have that Lucy don't? Lucy 100% can fly. Mirajane Algeria took out two fodder swords. That attack is by no means do anything to Lucy.

Mirajane has had ample amounts of fights to prove herself and she just hasn't. Against Sayla she needed Elfman to take her out, against Jacob she needed him to be severely weakened where not only did he not use his magic but also fight her in CQC with his eyes closed and she still struggled against him. She couldn't take Lucy down even with Lissana and Elfman help and she couldn't take Skullion down either.

People overrate Mirajane way to much. She doesn't have the battle nor feats to prove this crappy claims that she can take characters out.

The difference between Mirajane and Lisanna in terms of speed is high as Earth and Sky. Lisanna isn't portrayed as a fast wizard, thus Lisanna using a speed-type take over only makes her faster than she is naturally.​

Honestly, there is no prove that Lisanna with speed-type Take Over can touch Juvia, for instance, which is a wizard that Lucy have surpassed and which is also significantly weaker than Mirajane.​

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Jacob was physically beating Lucy on stardress form, and Mirajane without Take Over could keep exchanging blows with Jacob for a while without being dominated.​

Mirajane also fought Skullion when the plot was portraying him as strong. Often, Fairy Tail enemies start the story strong and got weaker as the story advances. When Lucy fought Kiria, the narrative made it very clear that Kiria was a weakling physically when compared to Laxus and Erza.​

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Mirajane was constatly portrayed as good cqc fighter. She is clearly above Lucy in this area.​

 

[Darklord#10]

The difference between Mirajane and Lisanna in terms of speed is high as Earth and Sky. Lisanna isn't portrayed as a fast wizard, thus Lisanna using a speed-type take over only makes her faster than she is naturally.​

Honestly, there is no prove that Lisanna with speed-type Take Over can touch Juvia, for instance, which is a wizard that Lucy have surpassed and which is also significantly weaker than Mirajane.​

Jacob was physically beating Lucy on stardress form, and Mirajane without Take Over could keep exchanging blows with Jacob for a while without being dominated.​

Mirajane also fought Skullion when the plot was portraying him as strong. Often, Fairy Tail enemies start the story strong and got weaker as the story advances. When Lucy fought Kiria, the narrative made it very clear that Kiria was a weakling physically when compared to Laxus and Erza.​

Mirajane was constatly portrayed as good cqc fighter. She is clearly above Lucy in this area.​

Who wins Mira or natsu

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Who wins Mira or natsu

??
Natsu's peak of power is far stronger than Mirajane's. But Mirajane can give Natsu a good fight if he fights at the level he fought against Gajeel on Aldoron Arc.

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu neg diffs Mira into oblivion. Any other answer is wrong

 

[kian]

Natsu neg diffs Mira into oblivion. Any other answer is wrong

If we’re going by feats alone Natsu neg diffs pretty much the entire fairy tail verse but it doesn’t work like that as seen by most of his fights.

I do agree Natsu wins but if we’re going by Mashima standards it’s not a one tap situation

 

[Darklord#10]

If we’re going by feats alone Natsu neg diffs pretty much the entire fairy tail verse but it doesn’t work like that as seen by most of his fights.

I do agree Natsu wins but if we’re going by Mashima standards it’s not a one tap situation

He one taps easily. You guys forget that natsu fought on equal terms with suzaku and defeated Duke who's above god serena.

 

[Ratrace]

. Often, Fairy Tail enemies start the story strong and got weaker as the story advances.​

this seems to be the case at times but all of times it’s because the good guys haven’t figured out how to beat their magic yet.


Sometimes the type of magic an opponent uses can affect the difficulty of a fight but it’s something I think some people ignore at times

 

[kian]

He one taps easily. You guys forget that natsu fought on equal terms with suzaku and defeated Duke who's above god serena.

If he couldn’t one tap Gajeel, he isn’t one tapping Mirajane.

Once again I’m not saying she’s winning by any means just think logically in regards to how most of his fights go.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

this seems to be the case at times but all of times it’s because the good guys haven’t figured out how to beat their magic yet.


Sometimes the type of magic an opponent uses can affect the difficulty of a fight but it’s something I think some people ignore at times

I don't think that is the case. Actually, in Fairy Tail, most of the time the enemy just becomes weaker and forgets how to use its power.
- Elfman and Lisanna couldn't overcome Ajeel's Sand World spell if Ajell used it.
- Luso didn't try to transform Erza into a dog, as she did before, and Erza has no spell to cancel it.
- Somehow Laxus could physically beat Skullion, who nullifies physical attacks. Even Mirajane fought Skullion without showing a spell to nullify his "ash body".
- Kiria didn't attack Lucy's last starmix with a roar that cut everything from various angles as she did before because she needed to lose.
There is more, but these cases already illustrate how Mashima nerfs hard Fairy Tail enemies whenever he wants. It's not the case that the narrative shows that Fairy Tail wizards, by being prepared for a rematch, possess all the means to overcome the magics that earlier defeated them.

 

[Ratrace]

I don't think that is the case. Actually, in Fairy Tail, most of the time the enemy just becomes weaker and forgets how to use its power.
- Elfman and Lisanna couldn't overcome Ajeel's Sand World spell if Ajell used it.
- Luso didn't try to transform Erza into a dog, as she did before, and Erza has no spell to cancel it.
- Somehow Laxus could physically beat Skullion, who nullifies physical attacks. Even Mirajane fought Skullion without showing a spell to nullify his "ash body".
- Kiria didn't attack Lucy's last starmix with a roar that cut everything from various angles as she did before because she needed to lose.
There is more, but these cases already illustrate how Mashima nerfs hard Fairy Tail enemies whenever he wants. It's not the case that the narrative shows that Fairy Tail wizards, by being prepared for a rematch, possess all the means to overcome the magics that earlier defeated them.

this is true enemies and sometimes good guys will forget spells that would have helped them in a fight.
we’ve also seen it where someone magic may affect the difficulty of a fight

besides know that Laxus won we have no idea what happened during that fight

 

[GL_Nova]

Like who?
Zeref can't beat laxus?
August can't beat him?
Goth Faris can't beat him
Athena can't beat him?
George can't beat him?
Tell me who and who can't beat him??

God Serena, Kirin, Misaki, Suzaku, Haku, Larcade, Invel, Dimaria, Brandish, Wall, Ajeel, Bloodman, Jacob, Neinhart, Jellal, all of these.

An honestly, no I wouldn't back August or George against him.

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I don't think that is the case. Actually, in Fairy Tail, most of the time the enemy just becomes weaker and forgets how to use its power.
- Elfman and Lisanna couldn't overcome Ajeel's Sand World spell if Ajell used it.
- Luso didn't try to transform Erza into a dog, as she did before, and Erza has no spell to cancel it.
- Somehow Laxus could physically beat Skullion, who nullifies physical attacks. Even Mirajane fought Skullion without showing a spell to nullify his "ash body".
- Kiria didn't attack Lucy's last starmix with a roar that cut everything from various angles as she did before because she needed to lose.
There is more, but these cases already illustrate how Mashima nerfs hard Fairy Tail enemies whenever he wants. It's not the case that the narrative shows that Fairy Tail wizards, by being prepared for a rematch, possess all the means to overcome the magics that earlier defeated them.

Why would an Ash body be effective against lightning?

 

[Darklord#10]

God Serena, Kirin, Misaki, Suzaku, Haku, Larcade, Invel, Dimaria, Brandish, Wall, Ajeel, Bloodman, Jacob, Neinhart, Jellal, all of these.

An honestly, no I wouldn't back August or George against him.

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Why would an Ash body be effective against lightning?

Explain to me how laxus is gonna bypass August magic immunity? Explain to me how laxus beats George? You do know that George beat a dragon king right, the same dragon king you believed to be on "igneel's level".
How does laxus put suzaku down when suzaku Can tank attacks that level the labyrinth? I don't care about spriggan fodder except Irene and August

 

[Garmadooon]

God Serena, Kirin, Misaki, Suzaku, Haku, Larcade, Invel, Dimaria, Brandish, Wall, Ajeel, Bloodman, Jacob, Neinhart, Jellal, all of these.

An honestly, no I wouldn't back August or George against him.

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Why would an Ash body be effective against lightning?

I knew you loved to overestimate your darling Laxus but enough is enough. How the hell does he beat Georg when he literally needed an asspull to beat his student ? Heck he doesn't even have the attack power necessary to take down Suzaku. My boy survived a stomp from Nerfed Dogramag. If you’re even trying to scale Laxus’ attacks above this that’s pure wank.