Current V and Luslec vs Traumerei

[Lonatian]

Gustang then and there said, if he's allowed to grow which very clearly he will, the man named V will be dangerous.

Once V gets the hang of Bam's irregular body and its capabilities. It's OVER for all the 10 Frauds.

There take it, your champion managed to make an injured exhausted child and a tower born "run away".

I thought this topic was about "Current V".

 

[zoradante1]

i see current V below FH by both feats, and statements clearly. That does not mean he is not a threat to FH though, he can be depending on situation, like how he sneak attacked to Rei when he was exhausted and was focused on fighting Urek, but in 1v1 current V definitely gets whooped by Rei. Gustang thought he will be dangerous if they let him grow, that means gustang is not afraid of current V. Also Rei and Gustang would definitely give a fight by themselves alone to Urek, on the other hand V was going to get captured by Urek as soon as chase began. I think its safe to assume that current V is around Luslec's level, might be a little bit below or above idk.

 

[Lord V returned]

And you're telling me to cope? Fucking hell

You're the only one coping. I have no reason to cope at all. Fact remains, Luslec is a tower born and it's "believed" they aren't in the same league as the irregulars, even though for Luslec I personally don't believe that. Fact still remains, he's a tower born and Urek couldn't do anything against him. Facts.

V is in the body of a child and still managed to 1 shot a family head. Fact.

You trying to down play those two is just you coping. You're supposed to side with the greatest champion in the tower; and still have to try so hard to make an argument for him, that's pure cope.

It's the equivalent of a Mike Tyson fan trying to make "arguments" in favor of the heavy weight and trying to justify why he got his skull cracked by a 13-year old.

That's what you're doing now.

The great Urek Mazino needs a fan-boy to spend hours arguing against why he lost to a tower born that was holding back. And my god you will argue even if it means you have to low ball him to prove how "good" he is ie Saying someone in the body of a child and a tower born "ran away" from him and that's his single greatest achievement in season 3.

Well done.

I won't reply to the rest, as it's just running in circles. It's all proven on panel facts.
There was no hole in his torso. Fact.
He was faster than Urek in base form Urek had to use reinforcement. Fact.
Urek was the only one to bleed. Fact
Luslec sustained 0 damage. Fact.
They both held back. Fact.

Those are all provable facts in the story itself and I'm not going to run around in circles trying to justify facts to someone that refuses to accept the reality of the story.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

You're the only one coping. I have no reason to cope at all. Fact remains, Luslec is a tower born and it's "believed" they aren't in the same league as the irregulars, even though for Luslec I personally don't believe that. Fact still remains, he's a tower born and Urek couldn't do anything against him. Facts.

V is in the body of a child and still managed to 1 shot a family head. Fact.

You trying to down play those two is just you coping. You're supposed to side with the greatest champion in the tower; and still have to try so hard to make an argument for him, that's pure cope.

It's the equivalent of a Mike Tyson fan trying to make "arguments" in favor of the heavy weight and trying to justify why he got his skull cracked by a 13-year old.

That's what you're doing now.

The great Urek Mazino needs a fan-boy to spend hours arguing against why he lost to a tower born that was holding back. And my god you will argue even if it means you have to low ball him to prove how "good" he is ie Saying someone in the body of a child and a tower born "ran away" from him and that's his single greatest achievement in season 3.

Well done.

I won't reply to the rest, as it's just running in circles. It's all proven on panel facts.
There was no hole in his torso. Fact.
He was faster than Urek in base form Urek had to use reinforcement. Fact.
Urek was the only one to bleed. Fact
Luslec sustained 0 damage. Fact.
They both held back. Fact.

Those are all provable facts in the story itself and I'm not going to run around in circles trying to justify facts to someone that refuses to accept the reality of the story.

Wow, you are indeed actually coping, no like actually it's that bad? Wtf?

Imagine doing damage control this bad for V and Luslec straight up running away from Urek and your best actual defense comes from the fact he's in Baam's body, aka the body that surpasses his own by far considering the tools at Baams disposal right now (Leviathan and the thorn plus Thyrssa).

So V is simultaneously weak and justified for running away cause he's in Baams body while also glazed by you as super strong and can one shot Traum a FH.

Lord you're funny, Greenbull fans have lots to learn from you.

Gotta like your post for the effort in damage control.


Eitherway, don't worry, V is still gonna be running away lots in the future so I await the damage control for that too.

 

[Lord V returned]

Wow, you are indeed actually coping, no like actually it's that bad? Wtf?

Imagine doing damage control this bad for V and Luslec straight up running away from Urek and your best actual defense comes from the fact he's in Baam's body, aka the body that surpasses his own by far considering the tools at Baams disposal right now (Leviathan and the thorn plus Thyrssa).

So V is simultaneously weak and justified for running away cause he's in Baams body while also glazed by you as super strong and can one shot Traum a FH.

Lord you're funny, Greenbull fans have lots to learn from you.

Gotta like your post for the effort in damage control.


Eitherway, don't worry, V is still gonna be running away lots in the future so I await the damage control for that too.

So are you claiming now that Bam indeed has the body/power of a FH now? Amazing.

It's staggering the amount of shit you'll pull to try and glaze Urek Ma-Loser.

I'm not coping at all by pointing out facts in the story. Something that you seem entirely incapable of understanding. It doesn't matter how much you try to overlook these facts, the facts remain.

1. V 1 shot a family head in Bam's body.
2. V said he can't take on Gustang/Urek in that body yet - a clear admittance that the body is not up to part yet.

He 1 shot a FH in a sub-par body ie While nerfed he 1 shot a family head.

Now you can try and deny that as much as you like, it's on panel. V and Luslec leaving means nothing. If you want to use that as some massive win for Urek Ma-Loser, then by all means, soak it up. He has had so few Ws in this story I'm sure you'll take any you can get. Be happy and stop coping.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Wow, you are indeed actually coping, no like actually it's that bad? Wtf?

Imagine doing damage control this bad for V and Luslec straight up running away from Urek and your best actual defense comes from the fact he's in Baam's body, aka the body that surpasses his own by far considering the tools at Baams disposal right now (Leviathan and the thorn plus Thyrssa).

So V is simultaneously weak and justified for running away cause he's in Baams body while also glazed by you as super strong and can one shot Traum a FH.

Lord you're funny, Greenbull fans have lots to learn from you.

Gotta like your post for the effort in damage control.


Eitherway, don't worry, V is still gonna be running away lots in the future so I await the damage control for that too.

Man comparing V to Greenbull is nonsensical. It's like me saying urek is Big mom

 

[Lord V returned]

Man comparing V to Greenbull is nonsensical. It's like me saying urek is Big mom

I honestly I have no clue what he's talking about there. I've seen that greenbull been brought up before. No clue what it even is.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Man comparing V to Greenbull is nonsensical. It's like me saying urek is Big mom

They both said and did the same shit.

Just like Greenbull came to Wano hunting for Luffys head V came to the battlefield with the intent to kill Traumerei and Gustang.


Greenbull made his reservation to kill momo, Yamato and everyone present and V boasted he was going to kill Gustang next.

Both got stopped the much stronger character and then instantly ran away saying basically the same shit.

Greenbull "I'm not ready to face you guys yet".


V and Luslec "We should avoid him for now"

"Yeah I know".


But unlike Greenbull, V actually left thinking he killed Traumerei, aka mad delusional wrong.


Both came in talking the big game about how they were gonna slaughter everyone and left catching zero bodies and chased away instead.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

They both said and did the same shit.

Just like Greenbull came to Wano hunting for Luffys head V came to the battlefield with the intent to kill Traumerei and Gustang.


Greenbull made his reservation to kill momo, Yamato and everyone present and V boasted he was going to kill Gustang next.

Both got stopped the much stronger character and then instantly ran away saying basically the same shit.

Greenbull "I'm not ready to face you guys yet".


V and Luslec "We should avoid him for now"

"Yeah I know".


But unlike Greenbull, V actually left thinking he killed Traumerei, aka mad delusional wrong.


Both came in talking the big game about how they were gonna slaughter everyone and left catching zero bodies and chased away instead.

Lol missing the context completely.

--V just awakened as was in weakened state and not used to baam's body - GB has no such restrictions.

--Urek the supposedly strongest guy was helpless in stopping V's attack from landing on traumerei and he literally says that the attack would have kiiled traumerei.

--Luslec made urek helpless 3 times and prevented him from destroying the revos or getting to weakened V - Shanks suffered no such hindicrane.

--Basically urek was clowned 3 times by luslec and once by a V who is not used to baam's body - Urek feels more like greenbull.

--V even said in his prime he can debatably beat urek which is an huge L for someone like you who's agenda is basically urek >>>> all V and zahard included. Stop the cap.

--Urek was made a complete fool this arc.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Lol missing the context completely.

--V just awakened as was in weakened state and not used to baam's body - GB has no such restrictions.

--Urek the supposedly strongest guy was helpless in stopping V's attack from landing on traumerei and he literally says that the attack would have kiiled traumerei.

--Luslec made urek helpless 3 times and prevented him from destroying the revos or getting to weakened V - Shanks suffered no such hindicrane.

--Basically urek was clowned 3 times by luslec and once by a V who is not used to baam's body - Urek feels more like greenbull.

--V even said in his prime he can debatably beat urek which is an huge L for someone like you who's agenda is basically urek >>>> all V and zahard included. Stop the cap.

--Urek was made a complete fool this arc.

Impressive ngl.

I'm supposedly missing context by flat out calling out the things V said he will do and failed to do.

Wallahi this is funny as fuck, I respect the damage control.

Eitherway, both said the same shit and ran away the same after figuring out they couldn't cut it.


V thought he could kill Traumerei and Gustang, achieved neither. Only thing he left with was the delusion that he actually killed Traum at the end.

Greenbull thought he could kill Luffy and the alliance, achieved neither. Only thing he left with was the delusion he could face Shanks and his crew at the end.


Both of them left with their own delusions.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Impressive ngl.

I'm supposedly missing context by flat out calling out the things V said he will do and failed to do.

Wallahi this is funny as fuck, I respect the damage control.

Eitherway, both said the same shit and ran away the same after figuring out they couldn't cut it.


V thought he could kill Traumerei and Gustang, achieved neither. Only thing he left with was the delusion that he actually killed Traum at the end.

Greenbull thought he could kill Luffy and the alliance, achieved neither. Only thing he left with was the delusion he could face Shanks and his crew at the end.


Both of them left with their own delusions.

I mean you are missing the context? V failed because he is not used to baam body ; had to deal with both clown lurek and gustang at same time ; still outclassed the clown lurek and only reason gustang was able to stop it because he knows about V's techs in and out.

I mean do you want/expect V to destroy both urek and gustang at same time? My my you have very high expectations of V lol.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I mean you are missing the context? V failed because he is not used to baam body ; had to deal with both clown lurek and gustang at same time ; still outclassed the clown lurek and only reason gustang was able to stop it because he knows about V's techs in and out.

I mean do you want/expect V to destroy both urek and gustang at same time? My my you have very high expectations of V lol.

Weren't you the one saying V fought all ten family heads at the same time in the past?

You were also parotting about him being much stronger than Zahard too in the past, really wanna pull the overestimation card on me???


Eitherway, V thought his current form was enough to kill both Traum and Gustang, from scans it's obvious he's not even powerful enough to overwhelm an exhausted Gustangs power.


Aka the boy is delusional and wrong once again.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Weren't you the one saying V fought all ten family heads at the same time in the past?

You were also parotting about him being much stronger than Zahard too in the past, really wanna pull the overestimation card on me???


Eitherway, V thought his current form was enough to kill both Traum and Gustang, from scans it's obvious he's not even powerful enough to overwhelm an exhausted Gustangs power.


Aka the boy is delusional and wrong once again.

I never said V = All 10 FH combined but from what we know V and arlen were fighting zahard and all FHs. Take that as you will.

V in prime is very very close to zahard and urek. That much for now is certain and clear. We will see if any changes are made in future.

What?? Bro are you even reading?? V literally said in his current form he can't beat gustang and Urek at same time smh.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

What?? Bro are you even reading?? V literally said in his current form he can't beat gustang and Urek at same time smh.

Just like he misjudged Urek to be on the same level as Gustang at first, he also misjudged himself capable of beating Gustang.


He didn't get to see Gustang stop his spell, he flat out believes he's killed Traumerei which means he doesn't know Gustang can stop it and actually did stop it.


Aka he's wrong.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Just like he misjudged Urek to be on the same level as Gustang at first, he also misjudged himself capable of beating Gustang.


He didn't get to see Gustang stop his spell, he flat out believes he's killed Traumerei which means he doesn't know Gustang can stop it and actually did stop it.


Aka he's wrong.

Show me the panel where he said he can beat gustang? He said he was going to kill weakened traum and gustang and was aiming at traum first which was hampered by both urek and gustang.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Show me the panel where he said he can beat gustang? He said he was going to kill weakened traum and gustang and was aiming at traum first which was hampered by both urek and gustang.

Oh come on now, when he said he was going to kill Gustang right then and there you cant say he believed Gustang could stop him or that he couldn't beat Gustang.

Since he believes he's killed Traum with that last attack it means for sure it's something he trusts Gustang couldn't beat or stop.


Urek for instance can destroy it but that would mean eviscerating Traum and Gustang along with it for such a wide area of attack spell.

But he has zero faith in Gustange strength, absolute zero

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Oh come on now, when he said he was going to kill Gustang right then and there you cant say he believed Gustang could stop him or that he couldn't beat Gustang.

Since he believes he's killed Traum with that last attack it means for sure it's something he trusts Gustang couldn't beat or stop.


Urek for instance can destroy it but that would mean eviscerating Traum and Gustang along with it for such a wide area of attack spell.

But he has zero faith in Gustange strength, absolute zero

I think it was made clear he needs to sneak attack them and land attacks clean to do so and no proof that was the strongest attack V can do anyways. That attack was meant for someone like traumerei who can not defend.

The issue for urek was that he was not able to caught/keep up with V's attack speed/attack prep.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I think it was made clear he needs to sneak attack them and land attacks clean to do so and no proof that was the strongest attack V can do anyways. That attack was meant for someone like traumerei who can not defend.

The issue for urek was that he was not able to caught/keep up with V's attack speed/attack prep.

He planned on attacking Gustang head on and actually did attack him head on so it's not that he wasn't confident of his strength.

And en after seeing Urek he only said it would be difficult stopping them both in his current body, he didn't say he couldn't do it or that it was impossible, only that it was difficult so V was absolutely very confident.

Also no, unlike the dragon which is concentrated the spiral is a tsunami, aka wide area of attack and therefore limiting for Urek who can't risk blowing it all away like usual.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

He planned on attacking Gustang head on and actually did attack him head on so it's not that he wasn't confident of his strength.

And en after seeing Urek he only said it would be difficult stopping them both in his current body, he didn't say he couldn't do it or that it was impossible, only that it was difficult so V was absolutely very confident.

Also no, unlike the dragon which is concentrated the spiral is a tsunami, aka wide area of attack and therefore limiting for Urek who can't risk blowing it all away like usual.

He used two attacks on traum. When did he used any attack on gustang?

Simply means he didn't have the confidence to take on both at same time.

? This means urek's own speed is lacking there or he doesn't have an attack faster than the one V used. No use micro analysing and thinking about it. Both urek and V hyped each other.

V was shocked by urek's speed and urek was baffled by V's attack.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

He used two attacks on traum. When did he used any attack on gustang?

Simply means he didn't have the confidence to take on both at same time.

Didn't he throw the dragon at him and instead Gustang deflected it but it grew once again, this was when Urek saved the unconscious Traum who was close by and one shot it didn't he?

? This means urek's own speed is lacking there or he doesn't have an attack faster than the one V used. No use micro analysing and thinking about it. Both urek and V hyped each other.

This simultaneously cannot make sense even with wank, Gustang is not a speedster and definitely not faster than Urek so how can see and track something Urek supposedly could not?

One can't predict or counterattack something that supposedly statues you and Gustang did both perfectly well meaning he wasn't statued.

So how Urek supposedly statued?

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Simply means he didn't have the confidence to take on both at same time.

Didn't say this, did not say this at all.

Don't twist it man, he didn't say he wasn't confident, only that it was gonna be difficult like I said.