Games Mafia Game 127 - Neon Genesis Omongelion - End Game

[James Rye]

Is killing Banshee N1 such a big risk? Still, 3 MHTs on EVA 06 would get him Avenger for four nights straight, not Banshee.

Dude, why would Mafia waste their kill on a public Banshee N1? XD
Thats what I meant with self-preservation move.
Is that how it works? I thought your bid gets you your role function not the MHT remaining?

 

[AnimePigeon]

They don't wanna go down the path of nsfw ai generators

That's why your wearing a hoodie and looking like a robot yourself

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What is Banshee?

I can't tell if that's an alternate name for someone or if it's explicitly referring to the Eva of that name.

Cants say Banshee is an Action/Role I am familiar with.

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Voting on Day 1 never feels right for me unless something specifically stands out to me.

Nothing really of note that would warrant a vote or any pressure at the moment.

 

[James Rye]

Banshee basically gets stronger the longer the game goes on as she has more targets to pick from in case she gets killed or lynched. Usually that can also be used to threaten players not voting for her as in "if you vote for me that means you're scum and I kill you using my Banshee kill".

 

[Demonspeed]

I think the higher the bid, the higher your potential to get the roles listed. Like with 9 MHT used you can get any of the roles listed for the EVA.

 

[James Rye]

@Farfalla

Just to make sure but the sanity of the Eva stays the same regardless of the MHT spend, right? Meaning if someone were to bid 4 MHT and someone else 6 and gets it, the 6 and 4 are of the same sanity and not different ones, correct?

Just making sure you guys saw my question regarding sanity. Is it Eva bound or is it MHT level bound?

 

[Crescent Jinx]

What do you want me to talk about for my first post? The weather? . I want a killing role yes, I rarely get these roles and Mafia can kill by default.

Yea but mafia might also want to keep roles out of towns hands too

I think the higher the bid, the higher your potential to get the roles listed. Like with 9 MHT used you can get any of the roles listed for the EVA.

But didnt panda say your remaining MHT is what your power is? So if you bet 9, you will only get the #1?

 

[James Rye]

Yea but mafia might also want to keep roles out of towns hands too


But didnt panda say your remaining MHT is what your power is? So if you bet 9, you will only get the #1?

Yeah, but bidding too high means losing the Eva sooner and we can bid on it again once they reach 0 MHT. Also from what I read it doesn't look like we "die" from 0 MHT, we just stay Vanilla townies for the rest of the game. So this could also be a game of "handing the baton" over like in team racing, as in one townie bids high on det eva, goes to 0, next townie can bid high on it. Problem is if high bids mean low usage then that turns Eva 2 into a mortician and restless spirit. If it is like Demon says and high bid means high role usage then it would be a different matter.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

So this could also be a game of "handing the baton" over like in team racing, as in one townie bids high on det eva, goes to 0,

Yea but there’s an Eva type 08 that steals MHT so some mafia could be like stealing all game and making highest bet each time

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I still don’t know what Eva 07 scout type is? Identify target MHT? Like how much someone has? Identify target Eva? What their Eva is? Like a mafia detective?

 

[digitaldude]

What happens when you mindbreak?

 

[Copy Panda]

@Farfalla


Just making sure you guys saw my question regarding sanity. Is it Eva bound or is it MHT level bound?

Can you rephrase the question

 

[Farfalla]

@Farfalla


Just making sure you guys saw my question regarding sanity. Is it Eva bound or is it MHT level bound?

Sanities aren't disclosed anyhow.

 

[Baka Taichou]

Interesting avys .

3 MHT for Eva 06.

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Gry's avy makes me think of Gon's outfit .

you're supposed to bid in private )))))

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Votekill Demonspeed.
FIrst post being avy talk and instant mechanism usage feels a lot of regular Demonmafia. Esp since he went for the killer one but low bid hinting he wanna protect himself using banshee while most likely actually bidding on another mech. Low bid is scum move.



It is.
With his 3 MHT bid it is a "self preservation move" done in a public way. Basically saying "I am Banshee don't touch me". Feels like an act and not a honest bid.



It can be discussed publicly, doesn't mean what is said in chat is done so in pm.

i was just about to vote, but my reasoning being casting bid in public when hosts said it should be private and just discussed in public.

anyway

!votekill demon

 

[Evil3ye]

I lost couple of Mental Health Tokens trying to read the rules and Eva things. Wasn't that supposed to be a small game with boys only??

 

[James Rye]

Can you rephrase the question

Basically does the sanity change as the MHT drop? Because that would be hella confusing to have a sole det role for town which sanity keeps on changing. Not sure how to feel about having only one Det Eva for a game of 19 players.

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I lost couple of Mental Health Tokens trying to read the rules and Eva things. Wasn't that supposed to be a small game with boys only??

lol, thought the same. We got scammed. XD

 

[Vandred]

Dude, why would Mafia waste their kill on a public Banshee N1? XD
Thats what I meant with self-preservation move.
Is that how it works? I thought your bid gets you your role function not the MHT remaining?

That's the point, you wouldn't kill Banshee, so it's worthless to claim it as vanilla town unless you're going for something else. Is this about your multiple killing parties scenario? Scum trying to scare other scum?

Thats one way. Other way would be for the Evas not game deciding to be seen as confirmation Evas. Basically did the person who everyone agreed on to get Eva X for X MHT or did he said next day he got no EVA confirmation pm meaning someone else bid higher.

I honestly don't follow, what reliable way would there be to confirm the non-game-deciding EVAs? Or even the game-deciding ones aside from 09?

D1: I'm going to bet 3 MHTs on EVA 02, whoever steals it from me is mafia!
D2: I didn't get EVA 02, now we know mafia must have it!

^ Would you simply believe me?
If mafia took EVA 02, how would we find them?

Most important though is that
1) first day lynch holds less punishment due all of us being Vanilla
2) roles can basically be exchanged with the EVAs depending on MHT
3) Mafia has a clear survival bias, meaning low bids or even no bids from them which will make it easier for us to bid on the Evas they would prefer to get, safe for Eva 1 which might get a lot of high bids in, even on the mafia side. That ofc means having plenty of Townie with roles to use but also lower MHT to stay in the game, except ofc the doc one where we rather want to use the doc role than the +3 MHT one, at least in the early game phases.

So in other words if we are communicative day 1 we should spot the people ready to bid medium/high and the ones who rather stay low on information (which makes no sense as we are all vanilla) or would prefer to bid low, like Demon just did, which is one of the reasons I voted for him. Low bids are most likely scum moves as town profits more from higher bids.

Isn't the idea that mafia are going to be careful about betting in direct oppositon to the plan of telling them outright how much and where everyone is betting?

 

[James Rye]

What happens when you mindbreak?

Since nothing is stated otherwise in the rules, you are ejected from your Eva and thats it, meaning you return to being a pure Vanilla.

 

[Copy Panda]

Basically does the sanity change as the MHT drop? Because that would be hella confusing to have a sole det role for town which sanity keeps on changing. Not sure how to feel about having only one Det Eva for a game of 19 players.

play and find out

 

[Evil3ye]

19 players game ffs I'm not ready for this, but will do my best!

That said, VOTEKILL LAWLY

How dare he attack cute Erin like that

 

[Crescent Jinx]

That's the point, you wouldn't kill Banshee, so it's worthless to claim it as vanilla town unless you're going for something else. Is this about your multiple killing parties scenario? Scum trying to scare other scum?



I honestly don't follow, what reliable way would there be to confirm the non-game-deciding EVAs? Or even the game-deciding ones aside from 09?

D1: I'm going to bet 3 MHTs on EVA 02, whoever steals it from me is mafia!
D2: I didn't get EVA 02, now we know mafia must have it!

^ Would you simply believe me?
If mafia took EVA 02, how would we find them?



Isn't the idea that mafia are going to be careful about betting in direct oppositon to the plan of telling them outright how much and where everyone is betting?

There has to be some coordination for roles like spy and detective and doctor to be used

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The sadist in me loves Evil’s cries of agony to such a large complicated game

 

[Demonspeed]

Since nothing is stated otherwise in the rules, you are ejected from your Eva and thats it, meaning you return to being a pure Vanilla.

I don't think you can be sure of that.