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1. Akane-Banashi
2. Ichi the Witch
3. Kagurabachi

4. One Piece
5. Beethoven

About Ichi, I particularly enjoyed the twist on the prophecy. It reminded me of the old greek phropecies, like the one before the battle of Pteria.

As many here, I'm having fun reading Beethoven's rants. No way it survives, though. Also, what did they do in the evening/night the day before? I find it a bit weird that it was omitted.

Why do people not realize that there simply isn't any correlation between past success and future success for a veteran.
I disagree. I'm sure there is some correlation, although a small one. An average veteran has far greater experience, name recognition and better art than the average new author. While neither of those factors assure you of success, they do help.
 

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As many here, I'm having fun reading Beethoven's rants. No way it survives, though. Also, what did they do in the evening/night the day before? I find it a bit weird that it was omitted.
If it survives, I think the anime could fill that in and give us an hilarious moment. But seeing Beethoven react to Firebird brought me back to my first experience of that composition thanks in part to Disney. Here it is from Fantasia 2000. (Note that I will only play the final part of it cause I couldn’t find one from the original theatrical one without the changes).

 

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Between the bottom 1 placement and the chapter itself, Nue's trending again lmao

 

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1. Blue Box: This was a very nice chapter. The mini-tournament was full of funny moments, the relationship we all actually care about had a tense moment, and Chinatsu gets all embarrassed making sinful thoughts. Every page was a good read this week.
2. Ichi the Witch: Finally someone that addresses one of my main complaints: why saving the world by acquiring Majiks through strange trials, when you can just beat them into surrendering.? Unfortunately (for the Majiks) this guy picked the sociopath version of this idea.
3. Witch Watch: It was a long time since I had some real fun with a comedy Witch Watch chapter. That teacher should be hired as a writer for some big movie industry, he sure has a talent for stories that abide with today's sensibilities.
4. Embers: This time I liked the chapter. For the first time game tactics played a role, although our protagonist isn't willing to recognize them as a factor yet. The characters have interesting personalities, and they got me hooked enough that I want to see what this new strategy will be.
5. Sakamoto Days: Ok, I complain about this flashback all the time, but this week the chapter moved me. It was a strong and sad conclusion to the story it wanted to tell.
6. Star of Beethoven: It has some charm. The maniacal attention for details of the author drawing 60 different coffee seeds didn't go unnoticed. I loved how the obnoxious guy was progressively more ignored over time, and now I also want to see Beethoven versus modern music.
7. Shinobi Undercover: Fight mode is the best mode for this series. The guy respecting professional etiquette was a fun gag, and once again Yodaka proves that he doesn't need any Kekkai at all. By the way, I think this series is already longer than Candy Flurry, congrats!
8. Super Psychic Policeman Chojo: Your typical boring chapter for Chojo, except...it's the golf chapter, so yay! So of course I had a ton of fun with this one. And as the final note says, don't be like Cop-bot and respect the golf course when you play your rounds.
9. Kill Blue: They are skipping all the story in a way that makes it funny to see how far they will go before returning to routine arcs, if they ever will of course. For now I am definitely enjoying the ride.
10. The Elusive Samurai: This is going so fast that it is hard to follow. Probably the timeskip is now complete, but before adventuring into it it is important to report that Kasuga died a great death.
11. Kagurabachi: He's been heroic and I'll respect that. It would have been a great shocking value if he got sliced to pieces for his efforts, but even without that it was a very cool moment. The power unleashing part, I don't care that much.
12. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi: I knew those two demons were acquainted (actually I thought they were family related). The chapter was nice, but the fight ending in a single chapter does not bode well for the well-being of the series.
13. Akane-banashi: The girl continues to estabilish her skill improving with this exhibition, complete with a new special technique. This may get boring fast though, so now I would like to see the new obstacles of this phase of her career.
14. Nue's Exorcist: I was actually enjoying the chapter and was curious to see how that battle would pan out... until Gakuro arrived with his banality to ruin the day like a modern Asta. I need one of those chapters where the protagonist doesn't appear at all.
15. Hima-Ten!: They keep playing ball with Iemori one chapter each, without him catching any clue. Every chapter is more or less fine, but I would like to see different dynamics at this point. Hima-hmpf!
16. One Piece: He gave up pretty quickly... what was he really trying to do? I'm not that sold on the second part either, they made us get acquainted with new enemies only for bait-and-switch them with newer ones.
17. Syd Craft: Love is a Mystery: There is potential in this new character, and I praise the return of the mystery of the week that displays Syd Craft's amazing deductive skills. That being said, the gags were not that funny and there was still too much romance involvement for my tastes.
18. Me and Roboco: Another week, another public bathouse chapter with a wasted chance to make a Thermae Romae crossover. Not last place because the Evil Containment Wave gag was hella hilarious.
19. Astro Royale: So it appears he fights better outside of a tournament confinement. The last guy that appeared is too similar to the enemy, I'll confuse them a lot in the next chapters. Last place because it's the only series this week that left me without any emotion.
 

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I don't like spiders but i felt really bad for that spider majik that Gokuraku was torturing, maybe that's how you know when a writer is a good one
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19. Astro Royale: So it appears he fights better outside of a tournament confinement. The last guy that appeared is too similar to the enemy, I'll confuse them a lot in the next chapters. Last place because it's the only series this week that left me without any emotion
really? This is one of the chapters i felt proud of Hibaru's speech
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Top 3 chapters this week:

1. Astro Royale
2. Star of Beethoven
3. Kill Blue
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I think Astro's volume 4 takes the best cover of the year until now for me, what an amazing cover
 

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I disagree. I'm sure there is some correlation, although a small one. An average veteran has far greater experience, name recognition and better art than the average new author. While neither of those factors assure you of success, they do help.
You're right, in the sense that the author of the one of the most successful rom-com of all time now has a reasonable 15K battle shonen in the same magazine. That is the extent of the boost basically any author ever receives.
 

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Voting:

1. Astro Royale

Another well balanced chapter between flashback and battle. Also usual Wakui shounen stuff. I wonder what wish turns you into Groots tho



2. B no seisen

Beethoven is carrying this manga hard

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Elusive Samurai may want to turn down the amount of history dump

Hinaten is cute this week

Ichi's new guy makes me like :SOON

Kill Blue got Character Development and it's cute
 

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You're right, in the sense that the author of the one of the most successful rom-com of all time now has a reasonable 15K battle shonen in the same magazine. That is the extent of the boost basically any author ever receives.
There's a pretty important part of context being lost here, the series did obviously get a boost due to the author's name, it debutted at 70K after all. It's clear that his name did bring in readers initially, it just so happened that sales fell off a cliff in a drop which resembles Ichinose's trend more than Kill Blue's, so clearly there was some audience rejection going on here. That's why it's hard to see it as a genuine success, if it was more consistent (even at a lower debut) it would get a pass, that's literally how Kaijin Fugeki is performing, but the level it dropped is what's the issue. People were initially willing to see Haruba's take on a Sentai battle shonen, it just so happened that they weren't willing to stick around for the long run. Some authors do get a better boost in the long run, EluSam and Ayakashi had reasonable holds (compared to Magazine's slate) and heck, even Fire Force pre-anime held better than Sentai, despite declining as well.

So I guess the point is that author names can boost a series way more than just 15K, what matters is if that audience sticks out in the long run. So I don't think you're entirely wrong, but there's important bit about trends being lost here. Saying "it sold 15K" is kind of reductive to the overall conversation.
 
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So I was about Syd Craft having a Soufflé chapter this week. But I didn’t expect a new character introduction.
 

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Had anyone has the One-shot of future project ?
 

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Star of Beethoven did a chapter about coming back to the school and the bla bla bla bla process to do it, then just ended the chapter waving a middle finger at the entire system. The utter chad energy of Yaso sitting there ignoring the four-eyes and Beethoven cracking his knuckles for 23 minutes of a sonata is just mesmerizing. There is something to be said about art and how the roads there are hindered by bureaucracy and the talentless pushing down on the talented. How artistic freedom is hindered by the very institutions that hold it in place. And it tells this with some interesting choices in visuals.


These to be specific. The four-eyes dude pressing down on Ichiro is interspersed with a panel of a train commute and its arrival to the station. The commute represents the norm, the average man, the mundane. A system put in place that gives everyone reliable comfort in executing their day-to-day activities but pretty much holds them captive in a box. Which isn't much different to an institution that teaches you. It certainly would develop your skills and talents, but it's a very rigid order that wouldn't encourage you to truly express yourself outside of the grading systems and ideals of their educators. There's an extra layer to it with him telling Ichiro to stand by his decision to give up the piano, and thus, return to that average life, a future of a salaryman commuting by train. The train arrives, here's Beethoven, who expresses that geniuses don't need to hold themselves to the whims of these institutions, that they can soar way above all these things that hold things together, yet also hold them down. The eagle is flying over a mountainrange, but looking closer, it's a city. Just flying over damn well everyone. And it's followed up by a panel of the same eagle flying over the roof of a train station, further emphasizing that rebellion against the institution. Yaso and Beethoven giving less than two shits of attention to the four-eyes completes this rebellion against the order, just ignoring his authority, like the damn eagle flying straight over the station.

Oh, and since Beethoven is about to break it down in a goddamn music academy, pretty much anyone important would recognize him for the genius that he is, even important figures like say a principal or some master pianist. I do think that should lead to interesting directions next chapter.

Y'know, it's nice that Beethoven is told as interestingly as it is. I saw the artist's twitter and thought, yeah, I can make do if he just slaps some big tits in my face and I'll be happy. But nah, this guy's got an interesting eye for presenting the story and characters he wants to tell. Hard call if this is enough to be a hit, but I certainly am indulging in these chapters.

Embers. I'm hundred percent sure Haitani doesn't even know how to play football and only knows how to steal balls. That guy looked so clueless about pushing up to score and seemed so confused about the idea of passing the ball. Y'know, maybe Embers should've been a rugby manga. Haitani's playstyle really translates well to a rugby style... Anyway, not a very interesting chapter to me. I do like how quickly the broody rival guy turned from "this guy's an idiot" to "let's hatch a plan to kill this guy". Usually the broody rival guy takes too long to cooperate. If anything, Haitani's the one who is uncooperative, especially since he don't get this tactical stuff.

Nue's Exorcist upset me this week. I was getting really psyched to see what the top Fujinos can do and well, we just skipped it. I'm sure they'll show up again to do stuff later, but talk about popping inflated balloon. I guess I just like the fights where a bad guy fights another bad guy, but it didn't happen. And Gakuro's already arrived, way sooner than I would've expected. I feel like it's a bit rushed. With these 'save the damsel' arcs, there ought to be a whole lot more roadblock in the way, and he'd have to crawl his way up the steps. But he just fought one guy and he's already got the girl. I seriously wouldn't have minded spending a longer time visiting the Fujinos and fighting a lot more fodder. Oh, but the imagery of the route to the Fujino spirit is pretty cool. And it totally makes sense that they had their roots in the Hyo.

Ichi The Witch found its way around the only female witches clause which would've made its cast predominantly female by introducing an idiot who goes around trying to become a male witch himself. It's smart. But I'm starting to notice a pattern in this manga that everyone in the main cast is some kind of psycho. Like they're all crazy in their own way. It's kinda funny. Not so much when you're splattering brains to walls. At least we have Kumugi. Bless Kumugi.

Shinobi Undercover has a guy who looks way too designed to be a one off. Still, I really like how all the fugitive ninjas have their own silly gags even if they existed to be beat up. The samurai guy who said the cool lines, now this professional etiquette masked dude and now we got a silly guy with an axe. There's no way you could waste a design like this for a villain of the week. There's a lot of talks about kekkais, and I think I prefer that the fights have some groundings to keep things interesting. I don't like that Yodaka just overcame the guy's kekkai by saying it doesn't work on him. Like, Sakamoto Days had a chapter that deal with poison, and that led to some very important plot developments and interesting tactics. It's kind of interesting that the manga with some shonen magic to ground its fighting is less tactical than the manga that has no systems whatsoever and just has people kicking the shit out of each other.

Syd Craft got us an Amelia Watson chapter, which really isn't a shocker, to be honest. It seems there's a formula to it all, just cycling between the girls, doing a chapter with all of them, then maybe doing an arc. I really shouldn't be holding out hope for a fullblown mystery arc, but this chapter is a decent return to form to how I prefer it... That said, the mystery was so out of focus that I didn't realize there even was one when Syd made his deductions. Oh, am I leaving something out? Nah, I save the best for last.

Madhell Misery is the most compelling villain ever put into the page of a Jump manga. Perhaps even any manga in general. The criminal mastermind is comparable to the likes of Johan Liebert in terms of devious intent. The way she refrained from using straight up poison is sheer genius. Poison can be traced, and the bottle and opportunity to dose the drink would've pointed her as the main culprit. Instead, she chose to use methods that are untraceable and unpunishable by law. By inducing high amounts of sugar inside the detective, she can kill him with diabetes in 30 years. Serving a full table of food would've fattened him up, further reducing that interval of death by diabetes to 20 years. And finally, by cleaning the floor till it was blinding, she could've caused an accident that could've proven fatal. I've heard many stories of people who died tripping on their heads. But because it's an accident, there was nothing to incriminate her with. I can't believe 22i could come up with such an intelligent character. Death Note has nothing on the mind games that happened this chapter.

Hima-ten! had a cute chapter and I have little to say about it. It's kinda cute when a girl pouts and gets jealous, and this guy gets the appeal, and based an entire chapter around it. Now, try to reread this chapter and swap all instances of "house cleaning" with "sex" and this chapter still makes just as much as sense. Huh wait, what if I did that with the entire manga? Oh my God, what have I done...?

Kagurabachi made the coolest guy out of the most cringeworthy character trope, and I gotta applaud it. The reveal in the end has me a bit mixed. After many chapters of child prodigies doing insane things they should never do, here comes another one! Still, it's not completely out the basis of logic, and the missing memories was a black box to which anything can be drawn from. I just should've known that characters in this manga don't deserve to have a name if they cannot kick ass.
 
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Had anyone has the One-shot of future project ?
Are you talking about the one that came out today? I know that Phantom RPG posted a tweet about its color page, but so far no news about it nor who is translating it.
 

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The train arrives, here's Beethoven, who expresses that geniuses don't need to hold themselves to the whims of these institutions, that they can soar way above all these things that hold things together, yet also hold them down. The eagle is flying over a mountainrange, but looking closer, it's a city. Just flying over damn well everyone. And it's followed up by a panel of the same eagle flying over the roof of a train station, further emphasizing that rebellion against the institution.
I wonder if this is mirroring the piece in the chapter, Firebird.
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I don't like that Yodaka just overcame the guy's kekkai by saying it doesn't work on him
It was implied since chapter 1 that he was immune to poisons.
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Syd Craft got us an Amelia Watson chapter, which really isn't a shocker, to be honest. It seems there's a formula to it all, just cycling between the girls, doing a chapter with all of them, then maybe doing an arc.
That was what I thought back last week.
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By inducing high amounts of sugar inside the detective, she can kill him with diabetes in 30 years. Serving a full table of food would've fattened him up, further reducing that interval of death by diabetes to 20 years. And finally, by cleaning the floor till it was blinding, she could've caused an accident that could've proven fatal. I've heard many stories of people who died tripping on their heads. But because it's an accident, there was nothing to incriminate her with. I can't believe 22i could come up with such an intelligent character. Death Note has nothing on the mind games that happened this chapter.
:grinHahahaha…….
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Also, with Star of Beethoven, I think it is hinting at a possible heroine of the series, but not the 2 girls. At one point in the chapter when everyone sees Yaso, a girl at the piano sees him and we only get a glimpse of her eye. Something tells me we will see her again as you don’t just cut to a close up of an eye and never come back to it again.
 

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The maniacal attention for details of the author drawing 60 different coffee seeds didn't go unnoticed.
Fun fact for anyone who cares, but it's actually a popular legend Beethoven would count out exactly 60 beans for whenever he made a cup of coffee — which was daily, mind you — so it just goes to show how attentive the dude was in even the minor aspects of his day-to-day. It's nice that the manga is making an effort to include tidbits like that throughout.
 

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Speaking of Star of Beethoven, we finally got word on who the editor is.
 

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notice speedrun chapters this week on Astro (anticlimatic short battle, that finishing blow is just comical, 0 creativity like always from Mc) and Kill blue (skip to the boss)

most favs chapter:
1. akane
2. sakamoto days
3. shinobi

best action: sakamoto
best comedy: desscaras recap. gaban give up while luffy zoro crashing down..
 

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Witch Watch was especially silly this week.

Also rip Kill Blue? I can't imagine a dad arc being anything other than the finale.

Embers had a strong chapter with really good visuals of the confrontations on the pitch, that's something I feel the recent sports stuff we've gotten has been lacking. Two on Ice and Greens both had strong characterisation (especially the latter) but I never really felt like they made the sport seem too exciting, like Greens could've been about MC picking up gardening or something and growing from there and it'd be about the same, while Embers is definitely going for that, which is generally necessary in WSJ.

Still not really feeling Beethoven though. Beethoven spices up every scene he's in but it has the problem of every scene without him leaving me thinking "when's Beethoven coming back?"
 

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I am so grateful leaks isn't a rampant problem yet for Kagurabachi. The chapter wouldn't have hit me as hard as it was if it was leaked.

Hope no other manga ever reach the extreme toxicity that JJK fandom had.
 
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