Chapter Tower of God Chapter 652 Spoilers & Discussion

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In S2ch309, when she described herself as “merely the blade that cuts down the enemies of the Zahard family” I instantly thought she was an Arie and that she had white hair.
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The more I look at her, the more I think she resembles Inieta, especially her hair and eyes, but with a lighter skin tone
It's a pink background.

This won't get anywhere if you keep to call it white, while I see it as pink.
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Similarly, many people said that Traumerei's hair was green, while I see it is clearly lime.
 

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The fact that she described herself as a blade, basically gave it away that she was Arie.
 

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The fact that she described herself as a blade, basically gave it away that she was Arie.
Can you tell me what event she said that at? I want to find that chapter to see the context.
 

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Can you tell me what event she said that at? I want to find that chapter to see the context.
It's the same which sly had put. S2 Ep 309, basically when we see the pink hair silhouette
 

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It's the same which sly had put. S2 Ep 309, basically when we see the pink hair silhouette
OK, in context she was speaking metaphorically. And I don't see the connection to Arie.
She was referring to the difference between the adminstration and the military, not only her.
 

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OK, in context she was speaking metaphorically. And I don't see the connection to Arie.
She was referring to the difference between the adminstration and the military, not only her.
Not really lol. More like SIU foreshadowing that she was Arie!!! Just using common sense here, only an Arie would be stronger than Mas(Kuhn).
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Do y’all think Hagi Arie exists still and that she was the one to defeat White?!?! It’d be kind of lame to have 2 Arie princesses and the story would flow better if it was just Arie!!! 2 Arie women being greater than Prime White really waters down all his achievements and storyline!
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So when Mas told Ran never to trust an Arie, I wonder if she was referring to her personal experience with Adori?!?! Mas’ actions in the Nest make more sense now, she probably would have done more to help TeamBam but was concerned about Lyb snitching her out to Adori. Clearly Adori doesn’t trust her!
 

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Not really lol. More like SIU foreshadowing that she was Arie!!! Just using common sense here, only an Arie would be stronger than Mas(Kuhn).
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Do y’all think Hagi Arie exists still and that she was the one to defeat White?!?! It’d be kind of lame to have 2 Arie princesses and the story would flow better if it was just Arie!!! 2 Arie women being greater than Prime White really waters down all his achievements and storyline!
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So when Mas told Ran never to trust an Arie, I wonder if she was referring to her personal experience with Adori?!?! Mas’ actions in the Nest make more sense now, she probably would have done more to help TeamBam but was concerned about Lyb snitching her out to Adori. Clearly Adori doesn’t trust her!
I've said it many times, the reason her appearance changed is because she's from the Arie family. An Arie princess with golden hair is impossible.

SIU never hinted at it through her appearance or words. Because the name is the most important thing. Khun Maschenny, Ha Yuri, and the princesses of other great families always are called them by their full name.
Why would others (including the military) dare to shorten Adori's name?
Meanwhile, the Po Bidau family members, upon seeing her Zahard emble, immediately called out her full name "Arie Adori Zahard" in the last chapter of ss3.
 

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I've said it many times, the reason her appearance changed is because she's from the Arie family. An Arie princess with golden hair is impossible.

SIU never hinted at it through her appearance or words. Because the name is the most important thing. Khun Maschenny, Ha Yuri, and the princesses of other great families always are called them by their full name.
Why would others (including the military) dare to shorten Adori's name?
Meanwhile, the Po Bidau family members, upon seeing her Zahard emble, immediately called out her full name "Arie Adori Zahard" in the last chapter of ss3.
Lol did you really think someone other than an Arie would be the strongest princess?!?! Who else(towerborn) do you think would be able to pass Arie Hon’s test other than his own kin?!?
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Also when the hell was Adori described as using golden hair lol?!?! Also Golden November being a sword was a huge giveaway as well
 

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I've said it many times, the reason her appearance changed is because she's from the Arie family. An Arie princess with golden hair is impossible.

SIU never hinted at it through her appearance or words. Because the name is the most important thing. Khun Maschenny, Ha Yuri, and the princesses of other great families always are called them by their full name.
Why would others (including the military) dare to shorten Adori's name?
Meanwhile, the Po Bidau family members, upon seeing her Zahard emble, immediately called out her full name "Arie Adori Zahard" in the last chapter of ss3.
Depends on her mother.

Lol did you really think someone other than an Arie would be the strongest princess?!?! Who else(towerborn) do you think would be able to pass Arie Hon’s test other than his own kin?!?
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Also when the hell was Adori described as using golden hair lol?!?! Also Golden November being a sword was a huge giveaway as well
It's easy to say that Adori being an Arie was obvious after the reveal. In the blog posts, she is an Arie Swordsmanship user and she doesn't have the Arie name.

The one who passed Hon's test is Hagi. But now her existence is questionable.

Sobriquet: Killer Whale

Age: 5000+

Height: 1 m 84 cm

Birthplace: Floor 132

Position: Fisherman




Adori Jahad. The strongest Princess. The Captain of Jahad’s Royal Guards.
Wielding the only S-rank weapon of the 13 Months Series, the Golden November, she has a multitude of both male and female fans because of her golden hair and beautiful face.

Although she is a ranker above rankers, she has no noticeable accomplishments or achievements. And even though she is the Captain of Jahad’s Royal Guards, because she does not like wandering around, she rarely participates in active duty.
Even with this, she is still entrusted with the Captain of the Guards position.

Why?

Only one reason:

Her unfathomable strength.

Even before she became a ranker, she defeated an upper level ranker (quite easily), and even Garam Jahad was overwhelmingly pushed to her limits before her. (Before the Anne Jahad incident, Garam and Adori fought once. It hadn’t been 100 years since Adori became a ranker, yet she was able to overwhelm Garam.) And since then, in the few fights against rankers, she defeated all of them with overwhelming combat prowess.

Many people compare her to Anne Jahad, but no one can easily determine who is stronger between the two. The debate still rages on today and is a favored topic of discussion amongst rankers.

Adori is known to be a cold and quiet person. She has little care for the happenings of the world, and she often gets lost in her own fantasies; however there are many secrets in her private life and no one really knows her true self.

But.
It is widely known that she will allow a person she likes to call her by her birth name.
(Her birth name is Adoru).
 

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I doubt SIU follows through with Hagi
 

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Depends on her mother.
As far as I remember, the Arie family is very bloodline-oriented. Their mother would also be an Arie.
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Lol did you really think someone other than an Arie would be the strongest princess?!?! Who else(towerborn) do you think would be able to pass Arie Hon’s test other than his own kin?!?
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Also when the hell was Adori described as using golden hair lol?!?! Also Golden November being a sword was a huge giveaway as well
So we have Hagi. She is ranked #36 while Khun Maschenny is top 100 and Ha Yuri is top 500.

Including Adori, Hon has given Zahard 4 princesses. That's too many compared to the number of direct descendants of the Arie family.
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Who else(towerborn) do you think would be able to pass Arie Hon’s test other than his own kin?!?
Arie Hon

Rank: 5


Sobriquet: White Sword, White Oar

Age: Unknown

Height: 1 m 87 cm

Position: Fisherman

One of the ten warriors who have pioneered the Tower. Current head of the Arie Family. Owner of the White Oar, the only sword made by Mecseth. The name of the sword is from Oarfish, a legendary white steel eel.

Outstanding swordsman, who has no problem with his mysterious swordsmanship even in high dense of Shinsoo. He fought Urek Mazino evenly, but after the combat, he is known to have said 'Urek Mazino is much better.'

He is known to be very temperate and elegant normally. He is well mannered even in a fight, but has never fought anyone after fighting Urek.

He is the owner of the White Oar, the only sword made by Mecseth. White Oar is known as the only S+ grade weapon inside the Tower. Warriors in the Tower say the well-edged weapon is 'like an oarfish' because of this. Mecseth had never produced a weapon after making White Oar.

Arie Hon stays at the 100th floor of the Tower as the head of Arie family, and his territory is the largest of the 10 families. He is famous for giving special tests to the regulars with an extraordinary reward, but the level of difficulty is so high that most of the regulars don't even dare take them.

The last person to past the special test is his daughter, Arie Hagipherione Zahard, and the reward is still unknown. The rumor says it was a 'very personal and childish reward'.

Urek Mazino also passed this test, and that is when he fought Arie Hon. Arie Hon's task was to endure his attacks for 10 minutes, but Urek Mazino fought evenly. Urek Mazino became the most famous Ranker in the Tower thanks to this opportunity. The reward from Arie Hon was the transfer of the control over one of the floors in Arie Mazino's possession. After Urek became the Ranker, the 77th floor became his, and he transfered the control again to Backryun, who set up the stronghold of the Walhabacksong there.
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BP said that. Not to mention she owns Red October and it's a sword.
 
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As far as I remember, the Arie family is very bloodline-oriented. Their mother would also be an Arie.
They are the most strict about bloodlines, but it doesn't mean they reject people from other families. Hon had to marry a Towerborn to start his family. "Lesser" descendants are mistreated but they still exist. Adori is the greatest of them all.
 

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Who in the world would think that Adori is Hon's daughter? While we have a super strong princess from the Arie family, Hagi.
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They are the most strict about bloodlines, but it doesn't mean they reject people from other families. Hon had to marry a Towerborn to start his family. Lesser descendants are mistreated but they still exist. Adori is the greatest of them all.
It is possible that the first princess Arie Hon Zahard was the daughter between Hon and the towerborns. But in my opinion, the direct generations after that will be purebred.
 

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It is possible that the first princess Arie Hon Zahard was the daughter between Hon and the towerborns. But in my opinion, the direct generations after that will be purebred.
Very unlikely considering the huge numbers of Towerborns existing and the fact that they have multiple wives. Hon is the only FH who entered with a relative(Han) but they are at odds with each others(there is probably at least one child born out of a Arie-Ari marriage).

SIU said certain sword techniques aren't taught to descendants considered inferior but they still teach Arie Swordsmanship to people. It's not that they consider Towerborns or other families impure or anything.

Traumerei started late compared to Hon and Eduan, who visited him with bodyguards who are presumably from their families(I don't remember well but I think at least one of Hon's bodyguards had dark hair).
 

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Very unlikely considering the huge numbers of Towerborns existing and the fact that they have multiple wives. Hon is the only FH who entered with a relative(Han) but they are at odds with each others(there is probably at least one child born out of a Arie-Ari marriage).

SIU said certain sword techniques aren't taught to descendants considered inferior but they still teach Arie Swordsmanship to people. It's not that they consider Towerborns or other families impure or anything.

Traumerei started late compared to Hon and Eduan, who visited him with bodyguards who are presumably from their families(I don't remember well but I think at least one of Hon's bodyguards had dark hair).
Hon's bodyguards could be his subordinates who climbed the tower with him (similar to Luslec). Traumerei's flashback at the beginning says that it was right after they stopped climbing the tower and started building their "house". And Traumerei's proposal party was originally a celebration party for him finishing building his house.
Does it make sense that he would have had two grown children at that time? Not to mention, I saw that during the party, Hon was quite shy when interacting with women, unlike Eduan who always flirted with them.

Most importantly, even if you want to prove that Hon married a towerborn, it would be reasonable, I don't say it's wrong.
But in terms of appearance, Khun family and Arie family have most of their members with the appearance of their family heads. Even if there is a probability, it's unlikely to be related to the direct generations. Maybe F2 generation (Hon's grandchildren).
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This guy was the one you'd think had two kids. He was clutching his hands and sitting the farthest from the table. He wasn't even close to Yirang.
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Hon is the only FH who entered with a relative(Han)
Wait, Hon and Han are relatives?
 
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As far as I remember, the Arie family is very bloodline-oriented. Their mother would also be an Arie.
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So we have Hagi. She is ranked #36 while Khun Maschenny is top 100 and Ha Yuri is top 500.

Including Adori, Hon has given Zahard 4 princesses. That's too many compared to the number of direct descendants of the Arie family.
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Arie Hon

Rank: 5


Sobriquet: White Sword, White Oar

Age: Unknown

Height: 1 m 87 cm

Position: Fisherman

One of the ten warriors who have pioneered the Tower. Current head of the Arie Family. Owner of the White Oar, the only sword made by Mecseth. The name of the sword is from Oarfish, a legendary white steel eel.

Outstanding swordsman, who has no problem with his mysterious swordsmanship even in high dense of Shinsoo. He fought Urek Mazino evenly, but after the combat, he is known to have said 'Urek Mazino is much better.'

He is known to be very temperate and elegant normally. He is well mannered even in a fight, but has never fought anyone after fighting Urek.

He is the owner of the White Oar, the only sword made by Mecseth. White Oar is known as the only S+ grade weapon inside the Tower. Warriors in the Tower say the well-edged weapon is 'like an oarfish' because of this. Mecseth had never produced a weapon after making White Oar.

Arie Hon stays at the 100th floor of the Tower as the head of Arie family, and his territory is the largest of the 10 families. He is famous for giving special tests to the regulars with an extraordinary reward, but the level of difficulty is so high that most of the regulars don't even dare take them.

The last person to past the special test is his daughter, Arie Hagipherione Zahard, and the reward is still unknown. The rumor says it was a 'very personal and childish reward'.

Urek Mazino also passed this test, and that is when he fought Arie Hon. Arie Hon's task was to endure his attacks for 10 minutes, but Urek Mazino fought evenly. Urek Mazino became the most famous Ranker in the Tower thanks to this opportunity. The reward from Arie Hon was the transfer of the control over one of the floors in Arie Mazino's possession. After Urek became the Ranker, the 77th floor became his, and he transfered the control again to Backryun, who set up the stronghold of the Walhabacksong there.
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BP said that. Not to mention she owns Red October and it's a sword.
LMFAO this is just a suggestion, let all this crap GO!!! SIU has deviated from this BS, if the character/event(s) ain’t in the manhwa then is not true LOL!
 

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LMFAO this is just a suggestion, let all this crap GO!!! SIU has deviated from this BS, if the character/event(s) ain’t in the manhwa then is not true LOL!
Most of the information on BP is not canon yet. How do I know what SIU will change?

The author himself wrote the character profiles for Hon and Adori. If I don't believe what he wrote, what should I believe?
 

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Blog Post.
I mean SIU wrote some information on his blog, including character profiles for the top 15.
Adori was the first case to be changed.
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We also only know Phanta is Axis based on that character profile. It is not confirmed on the manhwa either.
 
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In S2ch309, when she described herself as “merely the blade that cuts down the enemies of the Zahard family” I instantly thought she was an Arie and that she had white hair.
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The more I look at her, the more I think she resembles Inieta, especially her hair and eyes, but with a lighter skin tone

Bro is just lying for the love of the game
There is no reason behind it he just wake up and lie.
 
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