Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 1-7 Spoilers & Discussion

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I think U misunderstood. TOG is indeed too big at the moment. Even if the writing goes worse like Khun killing Edahn, we will see it to the end. Just that it won't be received well. S3 has some lowest rated chapters. From the spin off, we can be sure SIU does care about the ratings. Or else he wouldn't have drawn Phanta like he originally planned not to. Maybe he would have but not right now. The fact that spinoff is before S4 shows he wants to test the waters. All these radiant stuff are canon. While it's not part of main story, it's still relevant.
I think you guys think too much about ratings and end up believing your headcanon are true. ToG could be actual garbage(thankfully it's not) and it would still be extremely popular.

A spin-off is something different from the main story. I honestly don't remember SIU saying that Phanta would never appear but he never said things were set in stone. He changed Yama's story and many others.
 

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I think you guys think too much about ratings and end up believing your headcanon are true. ToG could be actual garbage(thankfully it's not) and it would still be extremely popular.
The way SIU wrote the notice in 652, does say he care about the ratings. Like I said, it's extremely popular to the point even if story goes to the worst, we will still see to the end.
 

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I think SIU doesn't really care about ratings, even if ratings are low, the number of viewers of ToG won't change much, his profit won't be less.
But he is paying attention to the readers' complaints, which I'm quite concerned about. An author shouldn't change his story for fans.
 

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Next week can't come soon enough man, jeez.


Wanna see the death match and him grasping Shinsoo.


Also wanna see the curious interaction between Urek and the first floor Admin.


And the eventual clash between Urek and that cruel group of High rankers it seems.


dude probably killed a lotta super strong people that we won't get to see in TOG.
 

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So, I finally read the chapters, my opinion is:

Chapter 01:

All this fighting about the jewels, the brightest ones, etc. is unnecessary, we probably won't even have any more mention of it, it's just part of the context of Urek's initial lore.

- I liked the LPB girl more than Princess Zahard.

- Urek being a bitch around women is ridiculous, but it doesn't go out of character, after all he is the most brilliant clown.

Chapter 02:
Nothing special here, just a bunch of arrogant rankers, I guess it makes sense for everyone to be scared when Baam enters the tower, Urek cleaned the floor with a bunch of loofah.

- It's interesting that the floor ruler is absent, if it's not EVK, it's a good chance for the SIU to show her taking the floor.

The other chapters don't have anything interesting, this one seems like it will take some time. The first impression of all the characters fell in an instant, no one really interesting here.
 

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So, I finally read the chapters, my opinion is:

Chapter 01:

All this fighting about the jewels, the brightest ones, etc. is unnecessary, we probably won't even have any more mention of it, it's just part of the context of Urek's initial lore.

- I liked the LPB girl more than Princess Zahard.

- Urek being a bitch around women is ridiculous, but it doesn't go out of character, after all he is the most brilliant clown.

Chapter 02:
Nothing special here, just a bunch of arrogant rankers, I guess it makes sense for everyone to be scared when Baam enters the tower, Urek cleaned the floor with a bunch of loofah.

- It's interesting that the floor ruler is absent, if it's not EVK, it's a good chance for the SIU to show her taking the floor.

The other chapters don't have anything interesting, this one seems like it will take some time. The first impression of all the characters fell in an instant, no one really interesting here.
"The salt scent" of lu and that wave controller teammate also felt something to remember. Indeed, Baam was quite small and accepting things as it is, but now we see a real outsider view of ToG.
 

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"The salt scent" of lu and that wave controller teammate also felt something to remember. Indeed, Baam was quite small and accepting things as it is, but now we see a real outsider view of ToG.
Yes, made me wonder if Lu was an Irregular for a moment. He is quite similar to S1 Baam but it's clear there is something to him. He could be a descendant of the people Zahard cursed? Neo kinda reminded me of V too.
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Rani stands out as well. She is a Zahard Princess but she is called the one in love...
 

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I think U misunderstood. TOG is indeed too big at the moment. Even if the writing goes worse like Khun killing Edahn, we will see it to the end. Just that it won't be received well. S3 has some lowest rated chapters. From the spin off, we can be sure SIU does care about the ratings. Or else he wouldn't have drawn Phanta like he originally planned not to. Maybe he would have but not right now. The fact that spinoff is before S4 shows he wants to test the waters. All these radiant stuff are canon. While it's not part of main story, it's still relevant.
I didn't say it's not cannon, I just said it probably won't be something relevant to the original story.
 

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I didn't say it's not cannon, I just said it probably won't be something relevant to the original story.
It's already relevant. Previously it was just dismissed as a rumour that UM entered the tower because he was chasing Phanta. Now it's clear he was. We might even see the reason why he wears Lu's cap, that last member might be yuje. How they formed whs might come later. These are going to be relevant.
 

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These days I am hearing a new cop from UM bros that the reason why UM never killed Luslec is because he shares some name with Lu(slec).
 

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someone put up vote on how strong Urek already is

I'm going to go directly top 50 HRs (regents level already)

edit: after reading up to chapter 6; fully restored power of light Urek is probably Zahard level already.
I don't think current Urek, with 0 shinsu knowledge is even Regent lvl, I think he will learn to use shinsu here and possibly defeat the Floor Ruler who should be weaker/in the same tier of Evankhell.

He is definitely already High Ranker lvl tho, and speaking of pure physical strength, he might be already stronger than a Regent imo.
 

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Do we know how long UM has been inside the tower? All we know is he climbed for about 50 years. EVK should have been the ruler by that time. If that's true, what's up with EVK, everytime an irregular shows up, YHS sends her away or what?
 

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That's sort of the issue, yeah. Urek is cool and all, but this all makes the MC of the actual main story look even more irrelevant and useless than SIU's hitherto wart-ridden portrayal of him already had.
Thinking positively, with this much of a switch-up in storytelling and SIU saying he was taking feedback into account for next season, maybe he's using the side story as a testing ground for writing a more assertive Bam.
 

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These days I am hearing a new cop from UM bros that the reason why UM never killed Luslec is because he shares some name with Lu(slec).
it is so bs rumoring about not killing Luslec as only Urek's choice. Luslec is not that helpless, he might not armwrestle and beat Urek of course but some hater-like comments are just plain ridiculous. They only properly meet twice with sort of fighting and "not killing him out of mercy" is not a sensible person's conjecture from them :) Luslec also saw Urek once more before Chapter 599 things as he stated, and again it was not like what 'rumor' suggests.

By the way, we might also see if FUG approached Urek or how and how it did not turn out in these chapters. Rahab seems to be the kind of guy for such underhanded things. Actually many people with suspicious or heretical motives have purple things with it, be it as a jewel, ornament, or eye color.
 

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How is "shinwonryu" being the key to such a thing? The rest reminded me @Ray Barracuda 's prediction about phantaminum as an alter ego of SIU or something.
I've always been curious as to how the Workshop invented shinwonryu or why they bother teaching it to Irregulars, but this new lore neatly explains it. They invented shinwonryu by analysing Phanta's jewels and teach it to Irregulars so they can evolve into shining ones.

If Phantaminum creates a huge ass tower with such drama(653 chapters, years, fandoms, you know), he should not be someone that can be chased on foot by Urek...
Or maybe Urek is just a greater person than we knew...
 

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I've always been curious as to how the Workshop invented shinwonryu or why they bother teaching it to Irregulars, but this new lore neatly explains it. They invented shinwonryu by analysing Phanta's jewels and teach it to Irregulars so they can evolve into shining ones.



Or maybe Urek is just a greater person than we knew...
Invented Shinwonryu? You mean the Hell Train? Because Shinwonryu is a technique. The Hell Train was created so that they could awaken their dormant powers.
 

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Well I read it finally... nice read... but this lowered Phanta in my eyes, suddenly there is some darkness stuff ordering him around so I guess Axis is a scraped concept? Except...


This for some reason makes it seem like Axis still exist as a concept because of "This story" part, and Axis is supposed to be writer of his story... maybe that's a reach. In any case what is ranking bureau excuse for putting Phanta on no1? We always knew he is strongest one because he is an Axis, but if that concept is scraped how do we actually know if he is stronger than Enryu? His feat is nowhere close to killing an administrator... I'm not saying he is or isn't he probably is still rank 1 as he always was, but from the ranking bureau point of view how would they know it... the reasoning they gave is laughable...

Other than that... how does outside god ties into all of this, it seems people outside live under the rule of Phantaminum who himself was a puppet of darkness who even orders him around? Maybe he became stronger once he collected all the jewels, but those are guesses. What is the outside god purpose in all of this. Is Urek outside and Baams outside actually same "outside", for some reason I think Baam came from a different place than Urek and therefore from a different "story" so to say, it's like a planet, on Baams planet Outside God is the ultimate being, on Ureks planet it's Phantaminum or Darkness...

As for the Luminous ones... who the fuck knows what their potential is, we know nothing about them except that they were cocky and Darkness decided to put them in their place. Also Phantaminum is captivated by the light of the jewels but for some reason does not seek Urek, it seems he either doesn't know about him or considers his mission complete and therefore cares not for Urek... or if he knows about him - he doesn't know that he is Luminous one.

It's easy to associate darkness with something bad and light with something good, but it seems it wasn't really the case in Ureks world, and Urek might be the only exception here. But then again Phantaminum doesn't exactly seem like a good guy either since everyone fears him...

In typical SIU fashion we got more questions than answers, but there is a long way to go so we might get some answers.
 

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It's already relevant. Previously it was just dismissed as a rumour that UM entered the tower because he was chasing Phanta. Now it's clear he was. We might even see the reason why he wears Lu's cap, that last member might be yuje. How they formed whs might come later. These are going to be relevant.
Bro, I'm not saying that the spin-off will be irrelevant to the story, I'm saying about all of Urek's lore before the tower.

Of course, if we get Wolhaiksong's exploration this will be relevant, especially since we'll probably see more of my GOAT Baek Ryun.
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Do we know how long UM has been inside the tower? All we know is he climbed for about 50 years. EVK should have been the ruler by that time. If that's true, what's up with EVK, everytime an irregular shows up, YHS sends her away or what?
Taking into account that Urek entered after Phanta and that the latter found Yuri in Zahard's palace, there is a 90% chance that she is already a ranker, so Urek has been in the tower for at least 300 years.
 

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Well I read it finally... nice read... but this lowered Phanta in my eyes, suddenly there is some darkness stuff ordering him around so I guess Axis is a scraped concept? Except...


This for some reason makes it seem like Axis still exist as a concept because of "This story" part, and Axis is supposed to be writer of his story... maybe that's a reach. In any case what is ranking bureau excuse for putting Phanta on no1? We always knew he is strongest one because he is an Axis, but if that concept is scraped how do we actually know if he is stronger than Enryu? His feat is nowhere close to killing an administrator... I'm not saying he is or isn't he probably is still rank 1 as he always was, but from the ranking bureau point of view how would they know it... the reasoning they gave is laughable...

Other than that... how does outside god ties into all of this, it seems people outside live under the rule of Phantaminum who himself was a puppet of darkness who even orders him around? Maybe he became stronger once he collected all the jewels, but those are guesses. What is the outside god purpose in all of this. Is Urek outside and Baams outside actually same "outside", for some reason I think Baam came from a different place than Urek and therefore from a different "story" so to say, it's like a planet, on Baams planet Outside God is the ultimate being, on Ureks planet it's Phantaminum or Darkness...

As for the Luminous ones... who the fuck knows what their potential is, we know nothing about them except that they were cocky and Darkness decided to put them in their place. Also Phantaminum is captivated by the light of the jewels but for some reason does not seek Urek, it seems he either doesn't know about him or considers his mission complete and therefore cares not for Urek... or if he knows about him - he doesn't know that he is Luminous one.

It's easy to associate darkness with something bad and light with something good, but it seems it wasn't really the case in Ureks world, and Urek might be the only exception here. But then again Phantaminum doesn't exactly seem like a good guy either since everyone fears him...

In typical SIU fashion we got more questions than answers, but there is a long way to go so we might get some answers.
The people in-universe didn't know that Phanta was an Axis and he is stated to be the strongest in the first chapter of this spin-off. He also refused to listen to The Darkness. People still ignore that Enryu, in the end is the servant of some deity's outside.

I don't think you can really say that the Shinies were simply cocky since they were stated to be the best among those born from The Light.
 
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