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Yamato for Nakama?

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Hmm, yamato joining the cross guild would solve the crew's apparent manpower problem. In the sense that they don't seem to have executives. Of course, from an outside world perspective the crew looks monstrous with buggy and mihawk at the helm and crocodile as the brain even without executives. But they need to have real muscle to properly function IMO. And yamato would come with at least ulti and page one who aren't by any stretch a poor addition to any crew. They could even recruit the rest of kaido's forces if they make their way to wano... I wonder if perhaps it'll be the crossguild that ends up recruiting the renmants of kaido's and big mom's crew. We never learned what happened to smoothie and co. Conventionally that would make them almost too strong but on the other hand the power scaling in the series has gone out the window. Shank's crew might have at least 2 yonko level fighters and maybe even more in the king/katakuri+ range. Blackbeard at least for now has kuzan. The strawhats are being built up to have 2 yonko level fighters, maybe 3, though they do have the issue that their bottom executives do not carry their weight (ussop, chopper and situationally nami). Meanwhile the WG just sharted out god knights and for all we know they are all yonko level fighters while still having admirals and the gorosei.
Yep, would be an easy way for Cross Guild to get fleet manpower, as well as Crocodile being interested enough in Pluton enough to motivate him to settle base further in Wano.
 

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Yep, would be an easy way for Cross Guild to get fleet manpower, as well as Crocodile being interested enough in Pluton enough to motivate him to settle base further in Wano.
I had forgotten about pluto. Though I have no idea of how the cross guild would learn pluto is at wano. Could buggy have learned this from oden?
 

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I had forgotten about pluto. Though I have no idea of how the cross guild would learn pluto is at wano. Could buggy have learned this from oden?
They could be motivated to go there in the first place going by Buggy’s memory and then earning Momo’s trust for him to tell them about it.
 

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If buggy heard this from oden back in the day and crocodile can turn this into something actionable then there wouldn't be a need to get momo involved... And thinking a bit of the meta plot unleashing pluto probably requires momo to have zunesha take down wano's walls. And it'd be a pretty awkward development if momo releases pluto only for crocodile to take charge. I suppose it could also be viewed as things coming weirdly full circle...
 

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If buggy heard this from oden back in the day and crocodile can turn this into something actionable then there wouldn't be a need to get momo involved... And thinking a bit of the meta plot unleashing pluto probably requires momo to have zunesha take down wano's walls. And it'd be a pretty awkward development if momo releases pluto only for crocodile to take charge. I suppose it could also be viewed as things coming weirdly full circle...
In any case, I can def see Oda going this route given Crocodile’s interest and Buggy’s past. He could even leave Mihawk there after they set up base. Mihawk just wants peace and quiet at the end of the day, so a mostly secluded country that’s hard for many Marines to get to would suit him well. And would give an excuse for Yamato to leave to seek answers for Wano from Laugh Tale.
 

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In any case, I can def see Oda going this route given Crocodile’s interest and Buggy’s past. He could even leave Mihawk there after they set up base. Mihawk just wants peace and quiet at the end of the day, so a mostly secluded country that’s hard for many Marines to get to would suit him well. And would give an excuse for Yamato to leave to seek answers for Wano from Laugh Tale.
One point though, the cross guild can't set up shop at wano. Doing that means automatic all out war with the yonko luffy. Wano is part of luffy's territory.
 

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One point though, the cross guild can't set up shop at wano. Doing that means automatic all out war with the yonko luffy. Wano is part of luffy's territory.
As far as Momo and the others know, it’s fine though. They’d have no reason to alert Luffy as long as they keep friendly relations, long enough for Croc to figure out how to get Pluton for himself.
 

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Yamato causing the possible reveal of who's who's real face
 

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Just gotta say this week‘s cover is rather surprising me. Raizo treating Yamato on a meal / feeding Yamato for her taking down Who‘s Who. Who would have guessed? Lol
Is that fine to chat about here now if it's a spoiler?
Ayyy no spoilers outside of spoiler thread. That just dropped like an hour ago lol
Pardon me, I did not want to violate any community rules, this was more about me wanting to talk about the latest Yamato developments in a thread dedicated to said character. But now that the chapter has been (inofically) released, here I go.
With the (former) Oden Retainers becoming/ already being Daimyo I‘m more inclined to believe that Yamato is not strictly following the Oden path anymore but instead starting her own journey to sea soon and I‘m still leaning toward‘s some of the former Beast Pirates becoming her crew.
Also I‘m not that eager to have Yamato join Crossguild, as I think her joining would just end up in a comedic corner with too little to gain for her. I sincerely hope Oda has different plans for Yamato. That said, at this point I don‘t think she has to mirror Oden too much anymore. Just remember the original Oden did not manage to meet up with Joyboy while Yamato already was able to do so, to just name one big difference of many more between Yamato and her role model.
 

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That said, at this point I don‘t think she has to mirror Oden too much anymore. Just remember the original Oden did not manage to meet up with Joyboy while Yamato already was able to do so, to just name one big difference of many more between Yamato and her role model.
It really depends on how Yamato is motivated to copy Oden less and be herself more. I think that will really boil down to her wanting to do things different from how Oden did them, and I'd say she's on that path already given how Yamato delayed her journey even though Oden sailed out right away first chance he got.
 

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It really depends on how Yamato is motivated to copy Oden less and be herself more. I think that will really boil down to her wanting to do things different from how Oden did them, and I'd say she's on that path already given how Yamato delayed her journey even though Oden sailed out right away first chance he got.
Agreed, I mean I don‘t picture her discarding her Oden personality anytime soon, but I think she has her own idea of being Oden and I figure she‘s not trying to exactly copy every detail of his adventures. IMO it‘s more of a vague dream, be like Oden, discover the vast world after being “chained“(in Yamato‘s case literally) to Wano for most of his / her life.
 

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Agreed, I mean I don‘t picture her discarding her Oden personality anytime soon, but I think she has her own idea of being Oden and I figure she‘s not trying to exactly copy every detail of his adventures. IMO it‘s more of a vague dream, be like Oden, discover the vast world after being “chained“(in Yamato‘s case literally) to Wano for most of his / her life.
She doesn't have to discard her entire personality, yeah. At the end of the day, Yamato grew up forced to be surrounded by militarized people with a military-minded dad who even fought with her repeatedly. So it's no surprise she's pretty tomboyish, playful, and rough the way she is when combined with being influenced by Oden's easygoing, fun persona.

It's less about dropping her personality and more about not having to copy everything Oden did. I understand that Yamato went as far as copying Oden as much as possible not only to have the freedom he had, but to also gain acceptance like how people accepted Oden and give Wano hope. But now that she is accepted and Wano has Momo to look onto, she doesn't need to do that.

Yamato prob feels like living like Oden is an obligation she has to go through, and feeling more limited on what she can and can't do because it depends on what Oden did and didn't do would really test her as a character.

And I think she'll be tested soon after she delivers the sword and meets up with Momo and he asks her this sort of question:

"So Yamato, will you sail out soon now that you've traveled Wano like Oden did?"
 

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Seems like Yamato is taking a little more time in Hakumai and Ringo before going back to Momo. Looking forward to seeing what they say to each other.
 

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Seems like Yamato is taking a little more time in Hakumai and Ringo before going back to Momo. Looking forward to seeing what they say to each other.
For some reason I‘m still expecting Burges to step into the ring and challenge Yamato to a sumo match.
 

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For some reason I‘m still expecting Burges to step into the ring and challenge Yamato to a sumo match.
Cover story is set slightly in the past and a Blackbeard invasion would be too significant not to cover in full, more significant than the Whole Cake invasion.

I imagine we’d get an update on Blackbeard by the time the cover story ends actually. So that things are more organized.
 

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Cover story is set slightly in the past and a Blackbeard invasion would be too significant not to cover in full, more significant than the Whole Cake invasion.

I imagine we’d get an update on Blackbeard by the time the cover story ends actually. So that things are more organized.
Yeah I agree on the timeline being a good reason against Blackbeard appearing and also him attacking Mary Geoise already. Only circumstance making it possible would be a time related phenomen in Elbaf, but well I doubt it is the case.
Since your knowledge on the Wano Arc appears to be very detailed, rather than google, Ima ask you. Was Oden frequently participating in sumo matches? That would explain why Yamato was taking part in one in the first place.
 

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Yeah I agree on the timeline being a good reason against Blackbeard appearing and also him attacking Mary Geoise already. Only circumstance making it possible would be a time related phenomen in Elbaf, but well I doubt it is the case.
Since your knowledge on the Wano Arc appears to be very detailed, rather than google, Ima ask you. Was Oden frequently participating in sumo matches? That would explain why Yamato was taking part in one in the first place.
I don’t recall him doing one, though it doesn’t really matter since it’s clear Yamato is doing what she wants to do. She isn’t going around trying to be Daimyo or have children like Oden did for example.

Because of this, Yamato seems like she’s becoming her own character more.
 

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I don’t recall him doing one, though it doesn’t really matter since it’s clear Yamato is doing what she wants to do. She isn’t going around trying to be Daimyo or have children like Oden did for example.

Because of this, Yamato seems like she’s becoming her own character more.
Yeah and that‘s exactly why I think Blackbeard would be the perfect opportunity to change the pace at Wano.
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BTW I asked because I wanted an explanation for the Sumo match, but I guess since Luffy had one against the little brother there‘s no further explanation needed.
 

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Yeah and that‘s exactly why I think Blackbeard would be the perfect opportunity to change the pace at Wano.
Momo will prob get mad in the event Blackbeard comes and Yamato confronts him while telling Momo to stay back, because Momo doesn’t want to rely on people who wish to leave. If Momo doesn’t find out Yamato stayed because she doubts Momo by the end of the cover story, then he’ll def find out when Blackbeard invades.
 
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