Hangout Tower of God Hangout & Q/A Thread

[Aesanhard]

I find it really funny that they brought him here but haven't even translated the Urek spin-off. Hopefully we'll get news about his plans for S4.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 5, 2025, Original Post Date: Jul 4, 2025 ---

Apparently there were no interviews.

Mazino is getting translated:

 

[kkck]

Take that as it is, a random ass reddit post.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Take that as it is, a random ass reddit post.

Holleeeeeee.


If this is in fact true then that means the original six Luminous ones at their peak were Kings themselves, just on the lower scale compared to Phanta individually since he had to beat them one by one.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

For years, Enryus strongest soldiers have championed the anti axis agenda.

The riddle wins.

Flawless victory

 

[kkck]

Or that phanta is some guy in a fish suit fooling around.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

For years, Enryus strongest soldiers have championed the anti axis agenda.

The riddle wins.

Flawless victory

Lulz, maybe Enryu being a sealed Shiny is indeed one of the best bet for him after all


But that ship has sailed unfortunately.


And Lord I friggin love Phantaminum, nothing like a good Eldritch entity to get me all giddy and happy.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Enryu: Lend me your strength outside god! This is base Mago we're up against!

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Enryu: Lend me your strength outside god! This is base Mago we're up against!

Lulz man, can't do Enryu bad like that with this type of generational agenda slander, I've seen characters never recover from it till this day.


That shit should only be reserved for frauds ngl


He's still such a sick ass super strong character for me.

 

[Demonspeed]

This could easily be a troll but if that's true that's pretty cool.

If the story is at 60% then I guess we'll have 5 parts and things will move really fast in Part 4.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Lulz man, can't do Enryu bad like that with this type of generational agenda slander, I've seen characters never recover from it till this day.


That shit should only be reserved for frauds ngl


He's still such a sick ass super strong character for me.

More seriously though if Phantaminum is an axis and their power is still similar then shouldnt Mago be effectively invincible? At least they shouldnt be able to stop her from becoming queen.

I can only think that Ureks nature allows him to fight against it.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

More seriously though if Phantaminum is an axis and their power is still similar then shouldnt Mago be effectively invincible? At least they shouldnt be able to stop her from becoming queen.

I can only think that Ureks nature allows him to fight against it.

I think that more than likely she needs to be at a certain stage typa stuff before she awakens her true nature and the Axis thing takes effect


I think it's more akin to transcendence if you will .


Right now she most likely will come out fresh and super weakened and the threat she poses will be how fast or how long until she regains some relevant bit of power or her true nature.


Least that's the way I see it going.

 

[Demonspeed]

Holleeeeeee.


If this is in fact true then that means the original six Luminous ones at their peak were Kings themselves, just on the lower scale compared to Phanta individually since he had to beat them one by one.

??? How so? We know he beat them but they didn't say he needed to beat them one by one. He was much stronger too so he must have defeated them all with ease. As far as we know there is no lower scale Axis. Either you are one or you aren't. Urek himself, who is probably the strongest Shiny or the one with the highest potential isn't an Axis.

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Shinies were also fighting each other so they weren't a team or anything. But maybe some teamed up to face Phanta or he fought a bunch of them together.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

??? How so? We know he beat them but they didn't say he needed to beat them one by one. He was much stronger too so he must have defeated them all with ease. As far as we know there is no lower scale Axis. Either you are one or you aren't. Urek himself, who is probably the strongest Shiny or the one with the highest potential isn't an Axis.

Actually from what TUS told us, there were in fact lower scale and upper scale Axis.

The lower scale ones were just Axis, that's how for the longest we knew Phanta was top 5.

The King were those whom were the strongest and at the peak of the Axis food chain.

But anyways, it's possible that when the Darkness created Phanta he was indeed much stronger than them individually since he was created to be the at the peak of existence, but the fact he went with the tactic of facing them one by one is kinda something impossible to ignore.

Shinies were also fighting each other so they weren't a team or anything. But maybe some teamed up to face Phanta or he fought a bunch of them together.

Doubtful, as you stated they were also fighting each other obviously since they had nothing close to their level and the narration stated it to be a one by one process.

From the timeline of how things are and went, Phanta was created to be an Axis by the Darkness and it can't just create an Axis for no reason if it were dealing with some fodders, those guys stood at the peak of creation themselves for the longest as a whole.


But then this turned out to be stupid as Phanta broke away after realizing he had an authority equal to or close to it courtesy of the Darkness giving him most of it's power in anger to subdue the shinies.


Both the Darkness and Light as Primordial entities are Axis themselves obviously and including Phanta since all three stand at a stalemate or stood at a stalemate for the longest time before the Light finally created a new Luminous one who is supposedly as you say supposed to be able to go against Phanta and most likely the strongest one of them.

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Oh yeah, just remembered an important detail.


The only that can beat an Axis as stated was another another Axis.


The Darkness creating an Axis in Phanta was intentional, cause how else do you stand against people whom were at the peak of existence too if they weren't Axis themselves.


How else could they have bothered the Darkness so much with the power and chaos that it just spawned a stronger Axis in retaliation.




And obviously the Light created Urek with the intention of him becoming an Axis in the level of Phanta or above and I guess learning from the mistake of the Darkness it didn't make Urek corruptible nor greedy and insane.

 

[Demonspeed]

Actually from what TUS told us, there were in fact lower scale and upper scale Axis.

The lower scale ones were just Axis, that's how for the longest we knew Phanta was top 5.

The King were those whom were the strongest and at the peak of the Axis food chain.

But anyways, it's possible that when the Darkness created Phanta he was indeed much stronger than them individually since he was created to be the at the peak of existence, but the fact he went with the tactic of facing them one by one is kinda something impossible to ignore.







Doubtful, as you stated they were also fighting each other obviously since they had nothing close to their level and the narration stated it to be a one by one process.

From the timeline of how things are and went, Phanta was created to be an Axis by the Darkness and it can't just create an Axis for no reason if it were dealing with some fodders, those guys stood at the peak of creation themselves for the longest as a whole.


But then this turned out to be stupid as Phanta broke away after realizing he had an authority equal to or close to it courtesy of the Darkness giving him most of it's power in anger to subdue the shinies.


Both the Darkness and Light as Primordial entities are Axis themselves obviously and including Phanta since all three stand at a stalemate or stood at a stalemate for the longest time before the Light finally created a new Luminous one who is supposedly as you say supposed to be able to go against Phanta and most likely the strongest one of them.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 6, 2025, Original Post Date: Jul 6, 2025 ---

Oh yeah, just remembered an important detail.


The only that can beat an Axis as stated was another another Axis.

What I am saying is that you are either an Axis or you aren't even if they have different power levels. The Shinies being Axis is extremely unlikely since Urek himself isn't and nothing has been said about the level of difficulty it took for Phanta to beat them(he most likely defeated all of them with ease since his overwhelming strength was mentioned).

The Darkness creating an Axis in Phanta was intentional, cause how else do you stand against people whom were at the peak of existence too if they weren't Axis themselves.


How else could they have bothered the Darkness so much with the power and chaos that it just spawned a stronger Axis in retaliation.

And obviously the Light created Urek with the intention of him becoming an Axis in the level of Phanta or above and I guess learning from the mistake of the Darkness it didn't make Urek corruptible nor greedy and insane.

Even if Phanta is confirmed an Axis, it doesn't mean he was born with such powers. What is clear is that he was very strong and he is a being of Darkness.

The Darkness was bothered by their arrogance, not by their strength and unlike The Light it had created nothing. We are probably going to see Urek defeat Mago in the spin-off. If she was an Axis, it would be impossible and she would have conquered the Tower by now.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

What I am saying is that you are either an Axis or you aren't even if they have different power levels. The Shinies being Axis is extremely unlikely since Urek himself isn't and nothing has been said about the level of difficulty it took for Phanta to beat them(he most likely defeated all of them with ease since his overwhelming strength was mentioned).

Considering the Axis were formerly people who just randomly awakened part of the lore has been retconned and now it seems you can be created as one by a Primordial entity, the probabilities of he shinies being an Axis are all way too high.


You forget that unlike Urek, the original six were created as fully realized beings at the peak of creation from the get go and it stayed that way for the longest time.


They didn't grow and have to discover or transcend, they were like Phanta, spawn camped as the strongest thing there was at the time by the Light.

Even if Phanta is confirmed an Axis, it doesn't mean he was born with such powers. What is clear is that he was very strong and he is a being of Darkness.

The Darkness was bothered by their arrogance, not by their strength and unlike The Light it had created nothing. We are probably going to see Urek defeat Mago in the spin-off. If she was an Axis, it would be impossible and she would have conquered the Tower by now.

Kinda improbable he wasn't born that way, Phanta's nature didn't change far as the new lore goes, he became obsessed with the shinies but that's about it.


He simply was made too powerful by the Darkness was the gist of it so he was indeed made an Axis by the Darkness, else it isn't possible to go against the will of a Primordial and rival it's authority.


Also yes, the Darkness was bothered by their arrogance which was their endless display of power across creation.



And considering the Darkness also wanted the shinies, wait why did it even want the shinies .


Kinda lost on the part, surprised I ain't seen any theories on it too considering how obsessed majority of the fandom are with every possible the theory they can get their hands on.



Anyways Mago won't come back anywhere near close to what she's supposed to be, just like Urek she'd be powerless and the threat she poses would most likely be how fast she can recover her nature or transcend else there's no possible way that Urek can beat a Mago who's supposed at the peak of her powers, he'd die straight up no question.


And considering that she's supposed to forcefully take over the Tower, something like that requires authority like that of a gods.

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The guy who made the statement has come with the receipts, yeah it's 100% still a thing.

 

[Demonspeed]

Nice, I knew the King of Jewels title was a hint .

 

[Epic_Rider]

Nice, I knew the King of Jewels title was a hint .

Eh, still not proof TUS is still a thing. Axis must just be the name for beings born of the Darkness.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Considering the Axis were formerly people who just randomly awakened part of the lore has been retconned and now it seems you can be created as one by a Primordial entity, the probabilities of he shinies being an Axis are all way too high.


You forget that unlike Urek, the original six were created as fully realized beings at the peak of creation from the get go and it stayed that way for the longest time.


They didn't grow and have to discover or transcend, they were like Phanta, spawn camped as the strongest thing there was at the time by the Light.






Kinda improbable he wasn't born that way, Phanta's nature didn't change far as the new lore goes, he became obsessed with the shinies but that's about it.


He simply was made too powerful by the Darkness was the gist of it so he was indeed made an Axis by the Darkness, else it isn't possible to go against the will of a Primordial and rival it's authority.


Also yes, the Darkness was bothered by their arrogance which was their endless display of power across creation.



And considering the Darkness also wanted the shinies, wait why did it even want the shinies .


Kinda lost on the part, surprised I ain't seen any theories on it too considering how obsessed majority of the fandom are with every possible the theory they can get their hands on.



Anyways Mago won't come back anywhere near close to what she's supposed to be, just like Urek she'd be powerless and the threat she poses would most likely be how fast she can recover her nature or transcend else there's no possible way that Urek can beat a Mago who's supposed at the peak of her powers, he'd die straight up no question.


And considering that she's supposed to forcefully take over the Tower, something like that requires authority like that of a gods.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 6, 2025, Original Post Date: Jul 6, 2025 ---

The guy who made the statement has come with the receipts, yeah it's 100% still a thing.

Phantaminum only called himself the King of Jewels after he added all of them to his body so theres a possibility of that being what awakened him as an axis.

 

[Epic_Rider]

Phantaminum only called himself the King of Jewels after he added all of them to his body so theres a possibility of that being what awakened him as an axis.

Maybe so.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Phantaminum only called himself the King of Jewels after he added all of them to his body so theres a possibility of that being what awakened him as an axis.

There's one element missing that makes me doubt that, the fact it wasn't called an awakening or ascension but simply the result of his obsession with the Jewels which captivated him so terribly that he refused to hand it over to the Darkness.


He was already created as the mightiest thing in existence, the apex creature and that indicates he was already born an Axis, he simply found the title that worked for him best.


So we can also say that this was him rejecting his predetermined role as the Guardian of Order and declaring unto himself a new title in the process.


Phanta rebelled against the Darkness.

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Wait thinking about it now all the Axis with titles that we're aware of seem to give themselves their titles according to what they're obsessed with.


King of Artificial creations is obsessed with creating stuff and is seemingly looking for how to create a god.


Phantaminum is obsessed with Jewels.


Phoenix King, well I guess he's obsessed with that.



There was one called give me back my earth or was it something like that, lulz, don't remember but his name was funny.