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It might be common interest but to me its clear Rocks set the vision and agenda of the crew. He also seems to be respected in his strength since the rest of them are following him. The world knew them as the Rocks pirates which clearly shows he is the leader in some capacity. They don't have to like or be friends with Rocks for any of this to work. Even in BB crew its clear they respect Teach's strength and vision.
They definitely didn't see him as weak, otherwise a non aggression pact wouldn't be worth anything. We did see their arrival at god valley and Whitebeard even outright told xebec he ever agreed to receive orders from an idiot like him (paraphrasing a bit, adjust for translations accuracy). Let alone that the rest of the crews's attitude was something along the line of "Get out of the way or die".
 

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Are we going to see another round of Davy Back fights? Perhaps, that is how Rocks managed to get such powerful but dysfunctional crew and he was on the island to acquire Harald?
 

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Sounds like Rocks is crazy and there's a gap between him and the others.
 

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They definitely didn't see him as weak, otherwise a non aggression pact wouldn't be worth anything. We did see their arrival at god valley and Whitebeard even outright told xebec he ever agreed to receive orders from an idiot like him (paraphrasing a bit, adjust for translations accuracy). Let alone that the rest of the crews's attitude was something along the line of "Get out of the way or die".
To me this is like how Law constantly complained about being given orders by Luffy but still did them anyways. Or better yet how Cavendish when joining the SH Grandfleet says they are allies but makes a point to say he is Luffy's senior and more popular even though at the end of the day Luffy is the grand captain. At the end of the day what matters is who is the leader and its clear Rocks was the leader and all the other famous members followed until his death.
 

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To me this is like how Law constantly complained about being given orders by Luffy but still did them anyways. Or better yet how Cavendish when joining the SH Grandfleet says they are allies but makes a point to say he is Luffy's senior and more popular even though at the end of the day Luffy is the grand captain. At the end of the day what matters is who is the leader and its clear Rocks was the leader and all the other famous members followed until his death.
It's definitely similar to how law and kid were with luffy however with the caveat that law was already luffys friend and kidd is at least more friendly with luffy than rocks was with the rest of his crew. WG was arguably the most decent guy in rock's crew and there's no reason to think he had any love for xebec. If big mom was friends with rocks then that means she cared for him more than she did for her actual sons and daughters.
 

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I'm just seeing g alot of "Mihawk Upscale" memes on Twitter but no actual hints so idk what to make of it. So possibly

Rocks has a Black Blade?
Rocks has a sword? We already saw this
Mihawk's family reveal?
Maybe flashback ends and we finally get Mihawk feats?

It's honestly exhausting seeing these Mihawk upscale memes because Mihawk doesn't do shit and his fans need to leech off any crumbs they can get their hands on lol.

Personally I hope for Harold/Rocks sky split
 

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It's definitely similar to how law and kid were with luffy however with the caveat that law was already luffys friend and kidd is at least more friendly with luffy than rocks was with the rest of his crew. WG was arguably the most decent guy in rock's crew and there's no reason to think he had any love for xebec. If big mom was friends with rocks then that means she cared for him more than she did for her actual sons and daughters.
Honestly, I don't really see Kid as that much different that Loki. They both seem like guys who felt they got shunned and disrespected a lot in their early lives, so they roared and fought back towards the world as a response.

So if Loki is really like Kid, then we can expect him to side with Luffy against the bigger enemy.
 

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Is there a color page this week? I don't think so, but I don't really remember where I can go to confirm.
My guesses though--
Daavey Jones--Davey back fight
Roger V Whitebeard points to someone having a haki clash. Probably whitebeard. I'm going to guess Rocks,
I'll be back might be Rocks telling Loki he'll be back for Harald or something.

The Raihan rape face being turned into Mihawk. Guess Mihawk was very happy and eager to fight someone. But since this is from Worstgen, I don't thnk I can think of it in the same way I do Redon.

The goofy one to me seems to be the idea of someone failing upwards. So, despite how precarious things are, it just works out. Very metaphorical one, I think. Unless we actually see something like that happen, but that invokes the idea of Nika so I don't think so. Metaphorical everything works out, or luck of the devil.

For the mob one--Someone beckoning someone to make a deal?

So putting it all together, this is quite a weird sequence of events. An early clash between Whitebeard and Rocks makes sense to me. I'm going to guess that Rocks fails upward or is very lucky.
 

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I really like the idea that a Davy Back Fight could have been the foundation for the formation of the Rocks Pirates.
It makes sense that the crew was made up only of powerful members, since winners of the DBF can choose whoever they want to join them.
That also explains why, during the God Valley incident, they said something like "Shut up, Xebec you're not our captain". It implies they weren’t loyal to him, just bound by the outcome of the DBF.
Overall, it's a compelling idea, only true pirates would live by the law of the sea and honor the results of such a game!
 

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I really like the idea that a Davy Back Fight could have been the foundation for the formation of the Rocks Pirates.
It makes sense that the crew was made up only of powerful members, since winners of the DBF can choose whoever they want to join them.
Exactly, think Kaido might have borrowed it from this from his captain. Not with the same flare, but was still actively pursued forced recruitments by defeating strong pirates and giving them an impossible choices.
 

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lemme guess... Xebec recruit his crew members through the Davy Back Fight and he clashed with Whitebeard, Kaido, BM... with CoC?
 

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lemme guess... Xebec recruit his crew members through the Davy Back Fight and he clashed with Whitebeard, Kaido, BM... with CoC?
I think he clashes with Harald. Evenly matched.
 

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So Xebec had it all, yet he still "lost"? How?
I doubt Garp and Roger alone were enough to take him down. There must have been others involved, maybe even someone who managed to imprison him instead of killing him.
The theory that Xebec was petrified, which could explain why Teach was after Boa Hancock’s Devil Fruit, doesn’t really hold up, especially since powerful Haki can override Devil Fruit abilities.
But what if someone managed to trap his soul instead? Now that’s a possibility. Mamamama.
 

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So Xebec had it all, yet he still "lost"? How?
I doubt Garp and Roger alone were enough to take him down. There must have been others involved, maybe even someone who managed to imprison him instead of killing him.
The theory that Xebec was petrified, which could explain why Teach was after Boa Hancock’s Devil Fruit, doesn’t really hold up, especially since powerful Haki can override Devil Fruit abilities.
But what if someone managed to trap his soul instead? Now that’s a possibility. Mamamama.
Peak roger n Garp are not enough?
What the hell.
 

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This Xebec wank is insane...
There's no way he was 2x stronger than Roger or Garp, the man is dead for a reason.
 

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The theory that Xebec was petrified, which could explain why Teach was after Boa Hancock’s Devil Fruit, doesn’t really hold up, especially since powerful Haki can override Devil Fruit abilities.
It was explicitly stated by Hancock that Mero Mero user cannot undo petrifications of previous fruit users.
 

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Peak roger n Garp are not enough?
What the hell.
This might sound silly to some, but I genuinely think Garp and Roger are a bit overhyped.
Roger was just a notch above Whitebeard, and Garp, at best, was on Whitebeard’s level.
That alone doesn’t convince me they could take down someone like Xebec by themselves if he is really that strong. I really hope there’s more to the story.
Sengoku wasn’t even there when he talked about what happened, all he knows is what Garp told him. And honestly, I don’t think Garp revealed everything. There’s definitely more to that incident than we’ve been told...
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It was explicitly stated by Hancock that Mero Mero user cannot undo petrifications of previous fruit users.
Yes I know. But we don't know what Teach need that power for. That's why there's this "Rocks is a rock" theory
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This Xebec wank is insane...
There's no way he was 2x stronger than Roger or Garp, the man is dead for a reason.
Whether Xebec is dead or not, his legacy might be the key to elevating Teach to true final-villain status. Because let’s be honest, right now, Teach still feels too weak to be the main antagonist.
That Xebec flashback isn’t just about the past, it’s a glimpse of what Teach could become. And I still believe he’ll be the last villain we face… not Imu.
 
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