Team FT Classic S-Class Mages vs New S-Class Mages

Who wins?

  • Classic S-Class [S1]

  • New S-Class [S1]

  • Classic S-Class [S2]

  • New S-Class [S2]


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FT Classic S-Class Mages losses miserable, they are no match for an unrestrained king of dragons but lucy is one-shotted though..
true but they are in character.

if we believe DF can kill even Gildarts, Laxus and Erza then Natsu would have to hold back.

I think S class clear both rounds, especially now since Laxus >= Erza.
 

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Classic s class ezy ezy.

Gildarts low diffs Gajeel if not stomps
Laxus one shot Lucy
Erza and Laxus stomp Gray
Gildarts and Mira take out Natsu before he goes into DF cuz I'm assuming he starts in base or FDKM
 
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Round 1: CSK utterly destroys.

Round 2: Fairy Law stomps.
 

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Since I didn't see DF natsu being restricted he solos all rounds but if he can't access it then new s-class gets mopped

Natsu trying to carry gray gajeel and Lucy against gildarts laxus erza Mira and jellal(maybe)
 

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Since I didn't see DF natsu being restricted he solos all rounds but if he can't access it then new s-class gets mopped

Natsu trying to carry gray gajeel and Lucy against gildarts laxus erza Mira and jellal(maybe)
I think Jellal as well unless Lucy or Gray can take on GS
 

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Classic S class win both rounds.

Laxus=Erza>=Gildarts>Natsu>Lucy>Mirajane>=gray>gajeel
 

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Where did you get the idea that Erza was stronger than Natsu? Natsu is easily wrecking the opponent Erza struggled with
This is the unconsistency of the last chapter where all FT MC team jumped several tiers in the last fight witout any explanation.
This is why it's a bullshit chapter.
It's not who is stronger than who, the question is "how the team could jump so high without any boost in the last chapter ?"

* Natsu crushed an enhanced version of WED where Erza struggled with => Natsu >>> Erza
* Lucy neg diffed an enhanced version of Luso while Erza mid diffed her => Lucy >> Erza (current Lucy >>>>> Lucy who was neg diffed by Karamilla).
* Erza neg diffed enhanced version of Enny while she struggled with to the point to near 0 MP at the end => current Erza >>> Erza
No point comparison for Grey.
No point comparison for Wendy.

So if you take the "Erza who struggled with human WED", then you can say that Current Lucy is also stronger than pré fight Erza because of Dragonized Luso's victory.

The question is : "why, in this fight, MC team leveled up so high to the point hyped human ennemies looked that weak after enhancement" ?
 
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This is the unconsistency of the last chapter where all FT MC team jumped several tiers in the last fight witout any explanation.
This is why it's a bullshit chapter.
It's not who is stronger than who, the question is "how the team could jump so high without any boost in the last chapter ?"

* Natsu crushed an enhanced version of WED where Erza struggled with => Natsu >>> Erza
* Lucy neg diffed an enhanced version of Luso while Erza mid diffed her => Lucy >> Erza (current Lucy >>>>> Lucy who was neg diffed by Karamilla).
* Erza neg diffed enhanced version of Enny while she struggled with to the point to near 0 MP at the end => current Erza >>> Erza
No point comparison for Grey.
No point comparison for Wendy.

So if you take the "Erza who struggled with human WED", then you can say that Current Lucy is also stronger than pré fight Erza because of Dragonized Luso's victory.

The question is : "why, in this fight, MC team leveled up so high to the point hyped human ennemies looked that weak after enhancement" ?
Why can't erza fans accept that natsu crushes their queen lol???
 

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* Natsu crushed an enhanced version of WED where Erza struggled with => Natsu >>> Erza
* Lucy neg diffed an enhanced version of Luso while Erza mid diffed her => Lucy >> Erza (current Lucy >>>>> Lucy who was neg diffed by Karamilla).
* Erza neg diffed enhanced version of Enny while she struggled with to the point to near 0 MP at the end => current Erza >>> Erza
No point comparison for Grey.
No point comparison for Wendy.
Erza didn't mid diffed, she speedblitzed Luso, you can't measure the exact gap between characters when one got speedblizted by the other, you can just say that the speedblizer is much stronger than the speedblizted, that's why Luso defeat is so shocking, it shows she was even weaker than previously thought and no solid basis to deny that.
Against Enny we could say that Erza simply got stronger as a power gap was showed.

@Darklord#10 is right, Erza>Natsu is over, no point in using Luso if she was speedblizted.
 

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Against Enny we could say that Erza simply got stronger as a power gap was showed.
A power gap ???
Hell yes : oneshot material with a standart armor on a Dragonized armored character where Benizakura was needed in the end to put this human foe down.

Sorry but I am still in shock how easily all the team crushed Fire & Flames. And my point is not about Erza but all five team members. They jumped sereval tiers at the end of the fight without any explanations.

Natsu could crush all five by himself but Erza & Grey didn't want to be spectators again. They could be....

no point in using Luso if she was speedblizted.
No point ? And the enhanced resistance due to Dragonization ? Speedblitz or not, you need power to break through Dragonization's scales. Luso wasn't human anymore. So yes, it's a point you have to take into account because Aqua Metria is not Leon Maiden; Gottfried or Urano Metria. See my point ? And Lucy hadn't Dragon Seal marked.

Erza>Natsu is over
Agree. Grey still has the best feat for now. And without any external boost.

My god, even Grey is still in Base to crush F&F, like Lucy and Erza are. This chapter was crazy and not only for Natsu.
 

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A power gap ???
Hell yes : oneshot material with a standart armor on a Dragonized armored character where Benizakura was needed in the end to put this human foe down.
To be fair, Benizakura isn't that big deal, Belzerion Sword would have impressed me more, that's why i always placed Enny below Youko, the shocking part was that she used even less than that.

Sorry but I am still in shock how easily all the team crushed Fire & Flames. And my point is not about Erza but all five team members. They jumped sereval tiers at the end of the fight without any explanations.

Natsu could crush all five by himself but Erza & Grey didn't want to be spectators again. They could be....
I'm also in shock and mostly precisely because of Enny. Luso was weaker than i thought, but like i said the speedblitz already meant that the gap between her and Erza was huge. Was expecting for Lecka to make Viernes look like a bum, but it's good for Gray that he didn't, now the status scaling can't harm Gray that much. But Enny fought Base Erza before and now got a worse performace. I already expect signarios to get worse performaces as it always happens to returning villains, but not this way. And is also shocking that Erza is not Hiro's golden girl anymore, stealing her victim and giving to Natsu was a real damage in her status.

But don't think they jumped several tiers outside of Natsu. Base Erza jumped a tier, but even then it wasn't enough for Wed. The rest i say stayed the same. Gray jumped several tiers against Viernes, but didn't this for this fight. Lucy fight against Karameel shows that she didn't jumped tiers and that Luso is glazed as hell to the point that even i was glazing her before. Wendy fought the weakest F&F, if this is not enough to say she didn't grew nothing i don't know what is, and before you say anything about the headbutt, she was able to fight Haku and Selene is below Suzaku, it wasn't a far fetched feat for Labyrinth Wendy. It's like i said about Team B, most of them didn't got upscaling.

Outside of Wed, Enny via gold owl feats and Brian who tanked hits from Natsu in a 1v1, rest was below spriggan level.

No point ? And the enhanced resistance due to Dragonization ? Speedblitz or not, you need power to break through Dragonization's scales. Luso wasn't human anymore. So yes, it's a point you have to take into account because Aqua Metria is not Leon Maiden; Gottfried or Urano Metria. See my point ? And Lucy hadn't Dragon Seal marked.
Bruh



Brandish didn't even needed hax to low diff Dragonized Karameel, just some punches. Dragonized scales are consistently ass. Erza refused to use DS enchanted sword AGAIN, Gray used ice DEVIL slayer magic. I don't want to say Karameel is stronger than Luso because i already see a lot of people using the excuse of field disadvantage for Lucy, but i still don't know what would put Luso a entire tier above Karameel, much less what would prevent her from being low diffed by Brandish.

gree. Grey still has the best feat for now. And without any external boost.

My god, even Grey is still in Base to crush F&F, like Lucy and Erza are. This chapter was crazy and not only for Natsu.
The good part for Gray is that without Lecka now i can take the Viernes feat seriously enough to say Gray>Erza too. Don't think the fight itself upscaled Gray, but because the Viernes feat was good enough without the shadow of a DG minion to make it look like a joke.
 

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Where did you get the idea that Erza was stronger than Natsu? Natsu is easily wrecking the opponent Erza struggled with.
I made that comment before Natsu vs Wed, which was a horrible fight for many reasons but anyway. LFD beating Wed technically does put Natsu>Erza for the moment, however keep in mind Erza and Wed never finished their fight so the outcome is unknown. And the whole “team Natsu vs F&F” final part was either just a lazy way to end that conflict, as it renders the tension and dynamic between Wed and Erza completely meaningless, or is actually all an illusion by Raj and the REAL fight hasn’t begun yet.

Also, Erza wasn’t the only one I put above Natsu. Laxus and Gildarts were there too, who both have worse feats than Erza, leave alone Natsu. Why did you have an issue with specifically Erza’s placement and not theirs?
 

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Classic s class mage wins
LOL 😆
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All characters are in-character and performing at the peak of their strength shown so far.

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I made that comment before Natsu vs Wed, which was a horrible fight for many reasons but anyway. LFD beating Wed technically does put Natsu>Erza for the moment, however keep in mind Erza and Wed never finished their fight so the outcome is unknown. And the whole “team Natsu vs F&F” final part was either just a lazy way to end that conflict, as it renders the tension and dynamic between Wed and Erza completely meaningless, or is actually all an illusion by Raj and the REAL fight hasn’t begun yet.

Also, Erza wasn’t the only one I put above Natsu. Laxus and Gildarts were there too, who both have worse feats than Erza, leave alone Natsu. Why did you have an issue with specifically Erza’s placement and not theirs?

HAHA 😄 🤣
 
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