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I wonder if the Thread snakes used to be one giant organism(like the serpent on HF) and broke into several smaller snakes after being defeated by Zahard.So... the snake thing also wants zahard dead?
Thinking about it, it'd make sense if the snake creatures were at some point defeated and conquered by the empire and set to do it's bidding.
Hard to say but it wouldn't be my first guess. We have 3 such creatures so far (the one in the spin-off, the thread snake and the snake charmer). We know from thread snake lore that the older it is the more snakes it is made out of. But even the thread snake seems old enough that destroying snakes didn't seem to cause it lasting harm and was able to duke it out with high rankers. Eduan warns urek about the snake which I would argue signals this one is stronger and more ancient than the thread snake. And finally, at the hidden floor it seemed like the snake charmer wasn't just a copy but rather the actual snake charmer was able to act through the copy. Which to me doesn't signal that merely splitting the masses of snake produces more independent entities (though it's possible the family head's godly nonsense could do something).I wonder if the Thread snakes used to be one giant organism(like the serpent on HF) and broke into several smaller snakes after being defeated by Zahard.
But wouldn't it require them to select a female blood descendant anyway ? Would "FH" Arlene go mad/try to kill herself if Zahard killed one out of her possibly many children ?Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.
There was a reddit comment that mentioned Icarus. Could she be involved? Its hard to know where to place the start of the princesses in the timeline.Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.
Weren't they already opposed to zahard when headon asked this?Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.
Yes, but providing someone from their bloodline so that they could have a chance to collect all the 13MS and get the right to climb seems like a secondary plan even if you are at war. You can do both at the same time. Zahard Princesses were fighting each others even though Zahard and 10 FHs were allies.Weren't they already opposed to zahard when headon asked this?
My guess would be that a reasonable response to zahard would be something like "Why do we have to do this princess nonsense? We could just go climb now if you guys get off your asses. Stop making shit up and calling it a concession.".Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

I doubt there is a link between them. To any Towerborn, GWs are divine beings anyway.This made me go to the chapter where Traumerei is reading the book and finds the page with the story on Icarus.
"As long as I can die beholding its dazzling brillance"
Icarus had the same goal as Aubryon and Mago?![]()
I think its more that the reoccurring motif of Stars is probably tied to Axis. Ureks light looks like the flames of the sun for example.I doubt there is a link between them. To any Towerborn, GWs are divine beings anyway.
No I mean before the Thread Snakes it was possibly 1 giant serpent(Rak’s sworn enemy on the HF)!!! I recall lore of a giant being that was defeated and divided into multiple creatures, possibly the thread snakes?!?Hard to say but it wouldn't be my first guess. We have 3 such creatures so far (the one in the spin-off, the thread snake and the snake charmer). We know from thread snake lore that the older it is the more snakes it is made out of. But even the thread snake seems old enough that destroying snakes didn't seem to cause it lasting harm and was able to duke it out with high rankers. Eduan warns urek about the snake which I would argue signals this one is stronger and more ancient than the thread snake. And finally, at the hidden floor it seemed like the snake charmer wasn't just a copy but rather the actual snake charmer was able to act through the copy. Which to me doesn't signal that merely splitting the masses of snake produces more independent entities (though it's possible the family head's godly nonsense could do something).
The Native One and the Water Serpent are different beings.No I mean before the Thread Snakes it was possibly 1 giant serpent(Rak’s sworn enemy on the HF)!!! I recall lore of a giant being that was defeated and divided into multiple creatures, possibly the thread snakes?!?
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Your denial regarding canon remains astounding. Urek is currently interested in Zahard, he is a newbie in the Tower. Urek in the main story isn't.This is such an L chapter for all of those who believe Urek is simply not interested in the tower politics. He clearly says it here again. He will kill the king. I say this question again. He met Zahard, so what changed? LOL. Urek not being interested in tower politics is such BS.
So "I want to kill Zahard" is not canon according to you? LOLYour denial regarding canon remains astounding.