Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 52 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

Enjoy turtles

 

[O_n_Sly]

So... the snake thing also wants zahard dead?

Thinking about it, it'd make sense if the snake creatures were at some point defeated and conquered by the empire and set to do it's bidding.

I wonder if the Thread snakes used to be one giant organism(like the serpent on HF) and broke into several smaller snakes after being defeated by Zahard.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

@SHSL_ZETSUBOU
Reddit about to crash with all the Gold that post would farm

 

[kkck]

I wonder if the Thread snakes used to be one giant organism(like the serpent on HF) and broke into several smaller snakes after being defeated by Zahard.

Hard to say but it wouldn't be my first guess. We have 3 such creatures so far (the one in the spin-off, the thread snake and the snake charmer). We know from thread snake lore that the older it is the more snakes it is made out of. But even the thread snake seems old enough that destroying snakes didn't seem to cause it lasting harm and was able to duke it out with high rankers. Eduan warns urek about the snake which I would argue signals this one is stronger and more ancient than the thread snake. And finally, at the hidden floor it seemed like the snake charmer wasn't just a copy but rather the actual snake charmer was able to act through the copy. Which to me doesn't signal that merely splitting the masses of snake produces more independent entities (though it's possible the family head's godly nonsense could do something).

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

I have a feeling Headon holds a grudge against Z for of his malicious compliance with the 13 months.
but maybe he's also too scared to do anything about it

 

[Demonspeed]

Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

But wouldn't it require them to select a female blood descendant anyway ? Would "FH" Arlene go mad/try to kill herself if Zahard killed one out of her possibly many children ?

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

There was a reddit comment that mentioned Icarus. Could she be involved? Its hard to know where to place the start of the princesses in the timeline.

 

[Demonspeed]

Maybe Baam wasn't their only kid, but the first male? Or they created two beings with V and Arlen's blood?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

Weren't they already opposed to zahard when headon asked this?

 

[Demonspeed]

Weren't they already opposed to zahard when headon asked this?

Yes, but providing someone from their bloodline so that they could have a chance to collect all the 13MS and get the right to climb seems like a secondary plan even if you are at war. You can do both at the same time. Zahard Princesses were fighting each others even though Zahard and 10 FHs were allies.

 

[kkck]

Reading the summary again. Would V and Arlen have any reason to refuse? The winner would get the right to climb so it aligns with their goals.

My guess would be that a reasonable response to zahard would be something like "Why do we have to do this princess nonsense? We could just go climb now if you guys get off your asses. Stop making shit up and calling it a concession.".

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So we have two reasons for the princess system. To earn the right to climb higher and to produce a wife for zahard. Eduan goes on about males not being compatible with zahard's power but we still have a number of zahard princes either walking around the tower as regulars or sealed away at the dumpster. The princesses earning the right to climb the tower makes sense considering they are given the key to it I suppose. Not all of it of course. I mean, this isn't exactly new information but the way the chapter frames this is weird. Could be because eduan has removed god knows what memories.

So it's looking like the family heads back in the day wanted to stay in the tower which is against it's purpose. And the tower demanded test takers. Which weren't exactly pouring in from anywhere so a deal was struck. Family heads get to stay and are elevated above others while the tower gets to continue feeding the human meat grinder. But now there are tons of humans in the tower willing to climb it and zahard threw away the key to higher floors. With this information gustang's comments about them being unnecessary hit differently. The tower might be more active than I thought in trying to dispose of the family heads.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

This made me go to the chapter where Traumerei is reading the book and finds the page with the story on Icarus.

"As long as I can die beholding its dazzling brillance"

Icarus had the same goal as Aubryon and Mago?

 

[Demonspeed]

This made me go to the chapter where Traumerei is reading the book and finds the page with the story on Icarus.

"As long as I can die beholding its dazzling brillance"

Icarus had the same goal as Aubryon and Mago?

I doubt there is a link between them. To any Towerborn, GWs are divine beings anyway.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

I doubt there is a link between them. To any Towerborn, GWs are divine beings anyway.

I think its more that the reoccurring motif of Stars is probably tied to Axis. Ureks light looks like the flames of the sun for example.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Hard to say but it wouldn't be my first guess. We have 3 such creatures so far (the one in the spin-off, the thread snake and the snake charmer). We know from thread snake lore that the older it is the more snakes it is made out of. But even the thread snake seems old enough that destroying snakes didn't seem to cause it lasting harm and was able to duke it out with high rankers. Eduan warns urek about the snake which I would argue signals this one is stronger and more ancient than the thread snake. And finally, at the hidden floor it seemed like the snake charmer wasn't just a copy but rather the actual snake charmer was able to act through the copy. Which to me doesn't signal that merely splitting the masses of snake produces more independent entities (though it's possible the family head's godly nonsense could do something).

No I mean before the Thread Snakes it was possibly 1 giant serpent(Rak’s sworn enemy on the HF)!!! I recall lore of a giant being that was defeated and divided into multiple creatures, possibly the thread snakes?!?

 

[Demonspeed]

No I mean before the Thread Snakes it was possibly 1 giant serpent(Rak’s sworn enemy on the HF)!!! I recall lore of a giant being that was defeated and divided into multiple creatures, possibly the thread snakes?!?

The Native One and the Water Serpent are different beings.

 

[O_n_Sly]

So each selected a girl from their bloodline?!?! So Arlen, Zahard and V had children already?!?! They were bestowed with Zahard’s power(not blood)! And nothing about Z being unable to have children LOL!!!

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Garam’s whole princess story was bs soo I 1000% don’t believe her Enryu story

 

[maverickframe_19]

This is such an L chapter for all of those who believe Urek is simply not interested in the tower politics. He clearly says it here again. He will kill the king. I say this question again. He met Zahard, so what changed? LOL. Urek not being interested in tower politics is such BS.

 

[Demonspeed]

This is such an L chapter for all of those who believe Urek is simply not interested in the tower politics. He clearly says it here again. He will kill the king. I say this question again. He met Zahard, so what changed? LOL. Urek not being interested in tower politics is such BS.

Your denial regarding canon remains astounding. Urek is currently interested in Zahard, he is a newbie in the Tower. Urek in the main story isn't.

What changed? This is a backstory.

 

[maverickframe_19]

Your denial regarding canon remains astounding.

So "I want to kill Zahard" is not canon according to you? LOL

It's not denial; it's the truth. Him not interested in the tower politics is BS. You don't need to agree. But this is how it looks to me.

Also, I am confused; y'all love debating here as lore from this backstory, but you aren't willing to take SIU's word for it that he wanted to kill Zahard. LOL.