Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 59 Spoilers & Discussion

Thoughts on Baek Ryun's bloodline?

  • He is from the Ari Family.

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • From the 10F but not a Ari.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Descendant of two of the 10 Families like Enne, the Ha Twins, Lyborick etc.

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • 10F-Snake hybrid.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Pure Towerborn.

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Something else.

    Votes: 9 36.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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Urek having light powers was most likely something SIU came up with during break imo. Hence we see no hints of it in baam time line of events.
I doubt that. UM was always shown to be special. The fact that he was able to destroy the mountain without shinsu was something I couldn't believe a GW could replicate it. The fact that he never learned Sbhs which allowed GW to differentiate themselves from towerborns.
 

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I doubt that. UM was always shown to be special. The fact that he was able to destroy the mountain without shinsu was something I couldn't believe a GW could replicate it. The fact that he never learned Sbhs which allowed GW to differentiate themselves from towerborns.
Not denying urek's speciality but I am pretty sure the light power concept was not there when he was writing OG TOG. Not once we were hinted about the light powers.
 

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Not denying urek's speciality but I am pretty sure the light power concept was not there when he was writing OG TOG. Not once we were hinted about the light powers.
Yeah. But I think there were signs in the sprout arc. For instance, Mirchea declaring himself as darkness in front of UM. When V attacked Traumerei, UM said if only I were a Lightbearer. Those seems wordplay to me.
 

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It seems we're still coming to the conclusion that even the Shinies themselves do not know the limits of Urek's strength.

Likely because of course Urek wasn't fighting them yet, they stole most of his power from him at some point but they never got to experience or know how powerful that version of Urek they stole from was.

They fought a very much weakened Urek and still lost badly, all six of them in the past.

Urek at some point as a child grew so astronomically powerful and beyond them that nobody has any real Data on what he was at the time.


Their best Data still comes from the version they stole from.
 

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And I am saying it makes no sense. The Axis doesn't even exist. That was a figure of speech.
Yeah pillar doesn't exist. But the tower does. We know tower lets Irregulars in. Anyway I can't see the conversation going anywhere. Let's hold off this debate until we see UM using combination again.
 

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After seeing the two Ari's and Baek mother from behind, I guess it's confirmed that he is an Ari descendant after all.
 

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Theory: I think Baek might belong to one of the races cursed by Zahard. The crescent moon first appears when he tries to defend himself against UM, and then again in this chapter when he has to demonstrate his power and mastery of Shinsu. It’s possible that the curse is triggered every time he uses Shinsu. Baek is therefore likely searching for someone capable of breaking it. This would explain why he stayed on the second floor for so long: perhaps someone predicted that a person would one day come to end his curse.
 

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It seems we're still coming to the conclusion that even the Shinies themselves do not know the limits of Urek's strength.

Likely because of course Urek wasn't fighting them yet, they stole most of his power from him at some point but they never got to experience or know how powerful that version of Urek they stole from was.

They fought a very much weakened Urek and still lost badly, all six of them in the past.

Urek at some point as a child grew so astronomically powerful and beyond them that nobody has any real Data on what he was at the time.


Their best Data still comes from the version they stole from.
It would be weird if the shinning ones didn’t know how strong prime Urek is tho because Aubrion is the one who compared Urek to Phanta by calling him an “immense being”.
 

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I'm pretty sure it's been said by urek a few times now that the shining ones have no idea of how absurdly powerful urek has become since their last meeting.
 

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In chapter 1 of this spin-off, it was implied that there were other individuals who could use light outside of the shinning ones. The emperor is probably one of those guys.
But entire reality was created by light yet fhs don't have such power at all , hell lets give a benefit of a doubt and lets say they are from universe named Z yet in Talse there was no universes but only one yet FHs still have not their own powers from their Galaxy or universe named Z like shining ones so it doesn't work like you have said


its like Shining ones are axisers and if they aren't then why no rachel no baam no fhs have any kind of power at all ? pure weaklings without shinsoo so that doesn't work hell even if GWs were sent by outside axiser then why he never blessed them with powers ? because they weren't sent by anyone at all they were just pure weaklings like rachel maybe a bit stronger because they had weapons
 

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But entire reality was created by light yet fhs don't have such power at all , hell lets give a benefit of a doubt and lets say they are from universe named Z yet in Talse there was no universes but only one yet FHs still have not their own powers from their Galaxy or universe named Z like shining ones so it doesn't work like you have said


its like Shining ones are axisers and if they aren't then why no rachel no baam no fhs have any kind of power at all ? pure weaklings without shinsoo so that doesn't work hell even if GWs were sent by outside axiser then why he never blessed them with powers ? because they weren't sent by anyone at all they were just pure weaklings like rachel maybe a bit stronger because they had weapons
In the blogposts it was said the that GWs used a type of energy called “air” on the outside. It’s blogpost info of course but it shows that SIU had planned to give them powers outside shinsoo initially. So they probably had a different energy they used in their home universe(but obviously it’s nowhere near as strong as shinsu).
 

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In the blogposts it was said the that GWs used a type of energy called “air” on the outside.
Nowhere it was said that it is energy Air , it was said that outside of the tower there is no shinsoo , there is only Air and nothing about power or energy at all , oxygen exists outside we all knwo that because humans need that so there is no problem

so it doesn't work still , gws literally have no power and if they did then they shall not come here because urek while he has light he is immortal and can live ten bazzilion years and mago and all those people so why settling inside of the tower ? because they are weakling ants , and if there was any power called Air rachel would use it and wouldn't want to climb tower ...

it doesn't work what you have said , people outside use weapons we know from Gws ... but weapons are for weaklings only not for gods if a god needs weapon then he is a weakling, and if penta depends on weapons for me he will be forever weakling like eduan is weakling without his spear which means eduan is weaker than his own spear so withotu tha he is weakling ...
 

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Nowhere it was said that it is energy Air , it was said that outside of the tower there is no shinsoo , there is only Air and nothing about power or energy at all , oxygen exists outside we all knwo that because humans need that so there is no problem

so it doesn't work still , gws literally have no power and if they did then they shall not come here because urek while he has light he is immortal and can live ten bazzilion years and mago and all those people so why settling inside of the tower ? because they are weakling ants , and if there was any power called Air rachel would use it and wouldn't want to climb tower ...

it doesn't work what you have said , people outside use weapons we know from Gws ... but weapons are for weaklings only not for gods if a god needs weapon then he is a weakling, and if penta depends on weapons for me he will be forever weakling like eduan is weakling without his spear which means eduan is weaker than his own spear so withotu tha he is weakling ...
It didn’t state it outright but I’m pretty sure air is a form of energy.
Maybe they could only use air in the area they were living in? So it’s an energy bounded to its environment like shinsoo.
 

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It didn’t state it outright but I’m pretty sure air is a form of energy.
Maybe they could only use air in the area they were living in? So it’s an energy bounded to its environment like shinsoo.
Maybe they can, be it'd be stupid idea like chinese cultivators LOL i hope siu wont go in that way and if siu wants to go with that way then axis thing means shit nothing LOL why settling in the tower when universe is full of energy ? :teehee :teehee :teehee
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Maybe they can, be it'd be stupid idea like chinese cultivators LOL i hope siu wont go in that way and if siu wants to go with that way then axis thing means shit nothing LOL why settling in the tower when universe is full of energy ? :teehee :teehee :teehee
Then if that is right then what urek has said about zahard and tower beings makes much more sense becuase these people either have no talent at all or they are braindead :teehee :teehee
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Then if that is right then what urek has said about zahard and tower beings makes much more sense becuase these people either have no talent at all or they are braindead :teehee :teehee
and i'd include penta there also LOL
 

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It didn’t state it outright but I’m pretty sure air is a form of energy.
Maybe they could only use air in the area they were living in? So it’s an energy bounded to its environment like shinsoo.
No he didn't say it was energy. People in the Tower breath thanks to Shinsoo too. Ashul learned about air, tried to understand how it works thanks to the GW's comments and created weapons they were used to but compatible with Shinsoo.
 

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It would be weird if the shinning ones didn’t know how strong prime Urek is tho because Aubrion is the one who compared Urek to Phanta by calling him an “immense being”.

True, but an idea isn't Data.

It's not like they can feel the limits or how deep Urek's sea goes, nobody got to experience anything like that and they're genuinely nowhere near close to him in power at the point he was in the past in the first place.


Hence why they can only compare him to the closest and only thing they felt to be like him which was of course Phantaminum.
 

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Best question we shall ask, so where all ureks light went when they have stolen it ? ureks light is infinity right ? mago now got confused and she has said like that guy didn't took everything because we all know it was just some portion of ureks power .

So mago had called herself LIGHT ? because she had thought that she had swallowed ureks whole light ? like in the past she had ureks infinity light that was generating light limitlessly ? yet where is that light right now ? :rolleyes:


because urek he himself has said like they have stolen it when he was at his peak so where is that light ? because shinies now are pretty damn weaklings compared to their prime so ? where is the light ? to whom it was given ? :heh
 

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Best question we shall ask, so where all ureks light went when they have stolen it ? ureks light is infinity right ? mago now got confused and she has said like that guy didn't took everything because we all know it was just some portion of ureks power .

So mago had called herself LIGHT ? because she had thought that she had swallowed ureks whole light ? like in the past she had ureks infinity light that was generating light limitlessly ? yet where is that light right now ? :rolleyes:


because urek he himself has said like they have stolen it when he was at his peak so where is that light ? because shinies now are pretty damn weaklings compared to their prime so ? where is the light ? to whom it was given ? :heh
They died after stealing Urek light and lost it most likely, either fighting between themselves, with Urek or possibly even Phanta. Aurbyon for example wasn't at full power when Urek killed him in the past, so i doubt Urek is the sole responsible for them losing the seemingly infinite light they stole back then.
 
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