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Nash can't be Lover assuming Sam is Town.
Yeah, yeah, I know, I just trying to make sense of who's blocking me.

Reading you back I got the impression you're afraid to flip me so I do think you believe I'm prostitute.
Sure, its why I targeted you last night to get a result assuming you would die in N2 with Mafia trying to get rid of you. Didn't happened. So no longer sure. Something just feels wrong with how Mafia pick targets.
 

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I'm reading back on holt and he's moving to unlikely/very unlikely to be escort.


Either Teubier or DD
Alright time to read them back too.
 

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When Brand fliped green you said I was mafia defuser 🥴
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@James Rye pretty much at the start of the day
I'm going through the first phase of today till page 46, still haven't stumbled across it. Guess I missed it. My bad. Here, have a votekill.^^
Votekill Hardy
Almost midnight anyway. I think I stop for tonight.
 

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Very well structured post, chud. Will share my thoughts regarding it, bit by bit.

Well young Wojakulate, from my perspective the only guaranteed towns are myself and @Demonspeed; may as well call us the shit shot brothers at this point. Extending that circle outwards, the remaining players are yourself (Town/Sickly claim), Erinyes (Bodyguard), Holt (Doctor), Hardy (Defused Bomb), Nashina (Hoe), James (Detective with sperm cramps (blocked)), DD (Spirit Medium), and Teuberculosis (Necromancer). So that makes me think, who is likely to be red given what we know? (i.e Marm Restless Spirit, Kaminogan Dicktective, Brandish the Hardy Stopper).

Before I give you my current suspects, I see a few issues this revolves around:
- How many necrophilia (aka dead cunt roles) should town have? (2 with Marm and Gary; Teub and DD another two)
- How many investigative roles should town actually have? (Kami a confirmed Det, James a claimed Det, and myself a Psychiatrist)
I kinda agree about necro/spirit roles. 2 necros with a spirit medium is a bit too much. And chud, since I forgot and rereading will take too much effort, can you tell me the targets and results of action by teub and DD?

About the Det though, I feel like two dets is rather common. Not that I trust James. But I do not find 2 dets too much. Psychiatrist is likely to catch some TP like lovers or traitor or something probaly?

My current suspects are:
1. Necrophiliacs (Teub vs DD)
Lack of info is a killer here and I'm not too reassured by either one. Thought and gut feel tells me there might be scum here, especially in light of Gary claiming he was claimcucked because he was Necro. Factoring Marm who was also a dead cunt role (Restless Spoof), that makes 4 necrophiliacs. So, its down to DD the Spirit Medium vs Teubs the other Necro. Two Necros sounds odd. If two bombs are legit, 2 dead cunt roles is fine but is 3 overkill? Could be both of them, but its definitly one of them. I lean towards Teubs being the dodgiest one although DD is elite at slipping through the cracks sometime.
Do we have two bomb claim though? If there is a scum between DD and Teub, it will be hard to decide whom to go for.


2. The Night 1 Cuck (Hardy)
I'm not certain on this one but a comment that is ringing loudly atm is @Demonspeed saying that the Hot Potato is a neutral role that can kill. Ethically that could mean that we're looking at Town killing role (and town killer kekw) Demon, and mafia bomb Hardy who got bummed by Brand N1 (amazing chase down block from Jaden McFurphys himself). To me, this puts Hardy as likely scum.
I do not uderstand this part. But do agree that Hardy is shady here

3. Information (or lack thereof)
The question I'm mulling over now is 'would town have 3 investigatives?' I'm definitely one although my choice for target is similar to Desmonds atm (i.e. not good). Then there was Kami who was town Det but played like town bomb or something because what the fuck was he doing? Then there's James, the other Det claimer. James does look dodgy here but there's another person I'll include in this category because they tie into information through the obstruction of it: the claimed blocker, Nash. It may be a scenario where both James and Nash are town, but that could be unlikely. What irks me though is that both "Dets" claimed a block but Kami was the one who we have to believe was blocked unless he is lying and forgot to submit an action (crackpot idea but it'd track given what he's like innit). So James, without the existence of a 2nd blocker, is immediately flagged as the most sus. Logically, he shouldn't be Det but that is based on an assumption. If there is a 2nd blocker, that makes James legit and Nash town blocker while someone who lied (Teub or DD for example) as that possible 2nd blocker.
Whom do you sus more between Nash and James? Demon yesterday also thought Nash is the escort.
4. The others
I'm just going to mention that I think Holt and Erin are likely town at this point, although one could be bsing potentially. The only person I haven't mentioned yet is you Woj, and of those others I think you're more likely to be red because Sickly is handy vote control for a small team that could use a leg up like that. Not saying you're likely red yet, but I definitely think the possibility is growing.
I am a sickly town, chud.
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oh well as expected, a mafia defuser would never reveal he defused a townie.

back to my trusting scale

trusting scale assuming theres no recruitment or traitor

Me bg 100% green

likely green
Demon - confirming role
DD trusting so far, he came with results
Wojak - sounds honest imo

Teubier - cant see him lying on this, plus used his role seemingly.

Brandi tend to trust he is townie, unless this reveal is a setup



Most suspicious:
Holt - well trusted him yesterday but with DD and Teubier results he could be claiming Gryff role
Sam - his claim makes sense but way too convenient, dont remember his hint, given the number of people i trust , he automatically get more suspicious by elimination too.
James - could be actual det, but with kamu dying det, well its him or nash.
Nashy - well could be prostitute or escort
Hardy,
lied about being doc, and as said earlier it makes to me more sense for bomb to be mafia. could be wrong too -
bomb defused



so janitor should be among sam, holt unless someone lied on their claim

-if scum, nash is likely escort.
-If scum james isnt janitor. nash probably blocked james, makes more sense than blocking bran who used his role/unless theres an escort, if shes legit
-i dont think teubier and dd lied but dont exclude that.
- someone claimed gryff role, could be sam,holt,nash and james, maybe dd if scum.
-teubier claimed on d1, according to his mortician use on gryff he had 0 feedback, unless someone else blocked him, which is unlikely, so given dd results on gryf, it makes nash and holt among the most likely to have claimed gryff 's role
- james could be lying all along but he claimed on d1 so he cant be claiming gryff role.
- sam is likely scum but i assume he claimed psy due to potatoe and sickly
- trusting wojak and he plays townily but... anything is possible


most lkely mafia to me, and again its just my 2cens : either nash and /or james, sam, holt, hardy (hardy could be town bomb buuuut unsure)
nash vs james could be acting but janitor to me is either sam or holt.

Votekill holt
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thats what i kept saying earlier
I agree with your post. But surely there are more sus people likely to get lynched today than holt?
Who do you think is lying between James and Nash?
 

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Gonna shift gears for a second and consider who Janitor could be, most likely:

Someone who claimed D2, after getting info from kill

Or someone who is claiming a death related role, which we have too many claims in anyway

That leaves DD, Tubbs, Sam, Holt

Technically coulda been Erin too but her hint D1 seemed pretty specific, that she had her role recently, and I remember she was BG in a recent game.
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Sam gets some points too there for Active + Had before as hint, limiting himself.

@SirSamuel016 which game were you psych?
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Is Gryff's Work hint the fact that Doctors are overworked?


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wojak seems to not be in the game somehow, acting confused whenever Demon points to his claim he would have used an active role if he had one. Did he even ever say what his passive role was? Or was he lying about it like Kami did? All I remember is his sickly secondary claim. Anyway sus and him acting as if he would move his vote and then leaving me cold for dying adds to that susness. At least in my book. I was hoping he would move so I had a greater chance to survive the Kami/Nash onslaught on me.
chud....it was between you and kami. I considered switching for a moment due to your pleading. But the only other option was Kami whom I trusted more than you.

Is there a townie playing weird because they're lovers with a scum? Whom would that be?
 

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I have an active role. Usefulness is quite circumstantial
Can you elaborate on this btw
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Only so much reading back I can do.

Ultimately I feel like Hardy will never be wrong here, James is likely but I have a sliver of doubt

And final 1/2 are between DD, Holt, Tubbs
DD and Holt for coming out Day 2 with roles that fit the bill for a Janitor lie
Tubbs for being one more Necromancer in the necro + SM dupe

Out of those 3 I'd say it's DD if it's only 1 more, and both Holt and DD if it's 2 more.
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Hardy you might wanna unlike the merge post lmao unless you'll agree that you're always the call
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Oh dear lord the possibility of a traitor bomb just crossed my mind and I'm fucking losing it at how funny that is
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Yeah I can't really spend more time on this. It's not perfect but I'm willing to lose the game flipping James and being wrong, or flipping Hardy and having a tougher time later with less info.

Will be back before end to lock.
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Also both ppl with deadlines who said they'd be busy are top posting.

@SirSamuel016 we're addicts.
 

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Sam gets some points too there for Active + Had before as hint, limiting himself.

@SirSamuel016 which game were you psych?
Game 108; might've mentioned this earlier today

I kinda agree about necro/spirit roles. 2 necros with a spirit medium is a bit too much. And chud, since I forgot and rereading will take too much effort, can you tell me the targets and results of action by teub and DD?
Teub on N2 used Necro on Gryff to use Gryff's ???? on DD- whatever the role was, it allegedly didn't give him feedback. (Also worth noting that Teub did this instead of necro'ing the dead Det
DD checked Gryff N2 - Gryff allegedly used his role on James

About the Det though, I feel like two dets is rather common. Not that I trust James. But I do not find 2 dets too much. Psychiatrist is likely to catch some TP like lovers or traitor or something probaly?
It is typically, not factoring in alignment. We know Kami was town det, but James could potentially turn red Det.

Do we have two bomb claim though? If there is a scum between DD and Teub, it will be hard to decide whom to go for.
No- that was me entertaining a @James Rye thought.

I do not uderstand this part. But do agree that Hardy is shady here
Hot Potato is neutral because it isn't alignment indicative and can be passed to anyone. In the event Hardy was T!Bomb it could mean that there's a hidden M!Bomb out there. Not sure tbh

Whom do you sus more between Nash and James? Demon yesterday also thought Nash is the escort.
I'm fried but I feel like both have been green-ish at times. Could be 2G/0R, 1G/1R, or 0G/2R between them tbh.

I am a sickly town, chud.
X Doubt

Is Gryff's Work hint the fact that Doctors are overworked?


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Could be? How much would you bet on it?
It would invalidate Holt if he was :hmm
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Also both ppl with deadlines who said they'd be busy are top posting.

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To everything after the first post in the multi:

The moment Brand flipped green responsability was thrown over the window and it was settled that I'd get lynched and lose. Same way "huh Kami lied it was all his fault" after ignoring Marm's post.
5 mins is not enough no.

Honestly I'm too pissed and based on the non-impact of Marm's efforts I don't think it's even worth it.
Should have trusted the CONFIRMED TOWNIE AND LYNCHED JAMES*
 

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Votekill Holt btw

I'm tryna see something here
 

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Votekill Hardy
 

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It's James-Woj-DD and then the janitor isn't it?
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really frustrated rn
 
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