Sure, its why I targeted you last night to get a result assuming you would die in N2 with Mafia trying to get rid of you. Didn't happened. So no longer sure. Something just feels wrong with how Mafia pick targets.
I'm going through the first phase of today till page 46, still haven't stumbled across it. Guess I missed it. My bad. Here, have a votekill.^^ Votekill Hardy
Almost midnight anyway. I think I stop for tonight.
Well young Wojakulate, from my perspective the only guaranteed towns are myself and @Demonspeed; may as well call us the shit shot brothers at this point. Extending that circle outwards, the remaining players are yourself (Town/Sickly claim), Erinyes (Bodyguard), Holt (Doctor), Hardy (Defused Bomb), Nashina (Hoe), James (Detective with sperm cramps (blocked)), DD (Spirit Medium), and Teuberculosis (Necromancer). So that makes me think, who is likely to be red given what we know? (i.e Marm Restless Spirit, Kaminogan Dicktective, Brandish the Hardy Stopper).
Before I give you my current suspects, I see a few issues this revolves around:
- How many necrophilia (aka dead cunt roles) should town have? (2 with Marm and Gary; Teub and DD another two)
- How many investigative roles should town actually have? (Kami a confirmed Det, James a claimed Det, and myself a Psychiatrist)
I kinda agree about necro/spirit roles. 2 necros with a spirit medium is a bit too much. And chud, since I forgot and rereading will take too much effort, can you tell me the targets and results of action by teub and DD?
About the Det though, I feel like two dets is rather common. Not that I trust James. But I do not find 2 dets too much. Psychiatrist is likely to catch some TP like lovers or traitor or something probaly?
My current suspects are: 1. Necrophiliacs (Teub vs DD)
Lack of info is a killer here and I'm not too reassured by either one. Thought and gut feel tells me there might be scum here, especially in light of Gary claiming he was claimcucked because he was Necro. Factoring Marm who was also a dead cunt role (Restless Spoof), that makes 4 necrophiliacs. So, its down to DD the Spirit Medium vs Teubs the other Necro. Two Necros sounds odd. If two bombs are legit, 2 dead cunt roles is fine but is 3 overkill? Could be both of them, but its definitly one of them. I lean towards Teubs being the dodgiest one although DD is elite at slipping through the cracks sometime.
2. The Night 1 Cuck (Hardy)
I'm not certain on this one but a comment that is ringing loudly atm is @Demonspeed saying that the Hot Potato is a neutral role that can kill. Ethically that could mean that we're looking at Town killing role (and town killer kekw) Demon, and mafia bomb Hardy who got bummed by Brand N1 (amazing chase down block from Jaden McFurphys himself). To me, this puts Hardy as likely scum.
3. Information (or lack thereof)
The question I'm mulling over now is 'would town have 3 investigatives?' I'm definitely one although my choice for target is similar to Desmonds atm (i.e. not good). Then there was Kami who was town Det but played like town bomb or something because what the fuck was he doing? Then there's James, the other Det claimer. James does look dodgy here but there's another person I'll include in this category because they tie into information through the obstruction of it: the claimed blocker, Nash. It may be a scenario where both James and Nash are town, but that could be unlikely. What irks me though is that both "Dets" claimed a block but Kami was the one who we have to believe was blocked unless he is lying and forgot to submit an action (crackpot idea but it'd track given what he's like innit). So James, without the existence of a 2nd blocker, is immediately flagged as the most sus. Logically, he shouldn't be Det but that is based on an assumption. If there is a 2nd blocker, that makes James legit and Nash town blocker while someone who lied (Teub or DD for example) as that possible 2nd blocker.
4. The others
I'm just going to mention that I think Holt and Erin are likely town at this point, although one could be bsing potentially. The only person I haven't mentioned yet is you Woj, and of those others I think you're more likely to be red because Sickly is handy vote control for a small team that could use a leg up like that. Not saying you're likely red yet, but I definitely think the possibility is growing.
oh well as expected, a mafia defuser would never reveal he defused a townie.
back to my trusting scale
trusting scale assuming theres no recruitment or traitor
Me bg 100% green
likely green Demon - confirming role DD trusting so far, he came with results
Wojak - sounds honest imo Teubier - cant see him lying on this, plus used his role seemingly.
Brandi tend to trust he is townie, unless this reveal is a setup
Most suspicious: Holt - well trusted him yesterday but with DD and Teubier results he could be claiming Gryff role
Sam - his claim makes sense but way too convenient, dont remember his hint, given the number of people i trust , he automatically get more suspicious by elimination too.
James - could be actual det, but with kamu dying det, well its him or nash.
Nashy - well could be prostitute or escort
Hardy, lied about being doc, and as said earlier it makes to me more sense for bomb to be mafia. could be wrong too -bomb defused
so janitor should be among sam, holt unless someone lied on their claim
-if scum, nash is likely escort.
-If scum james isnt janitor. nash probably blocked james, makes more sense than blocking bran who used his role/unless theres an escort, if shes legit
-i dont think teubier and dd lied but dont exclude that.
- someone claimed gryff role, could be sam,holt,nash and james, maybe dd if scum.
-teubier claimed on d1, according to his mortician use on gryff he had 0 feedback, unless someone else blocked him, which is unlikely, so given dd results on gryf, it makes nash and holt among the most likely to have claimed gryff 's role
- james could be lying all along but he claimed on d1 so he cant be claiming gryff role.
- sam is likely scum but i assume he claimed psy due to potatoe and sickly
- trusting wojak and he plays townily but... anything is possible
most lkely mafia to me, and again its just my 2cens : either nash and /or james, sam, holt, hardy (hardy could be town bomb buuuut unsure)
nash vs james could be acting but janitor to me is either sam or holt.
wojak seems to not be in the game somehow, acting confused whenever Demon points to his claim he would have used an active role if he had one. Did he even ever say what his passive role was? Or was he lying about it like Kami did? All I remember is his sickly secondary claim. Anyway sus and him acting as if he would move his vote and then leaving me cold for dying adds to that susness. At least in my book. I was hoping he would move so I had a greater chance to survive the Kami/Nash onslaught on me.
chud....it was between you and kami. I considered switching for a moment due to your pleading. But the only other option was Kami whom I trusted more than you.
Is there a townie playing weird because they're lovers with a scum? Whom would that be?
Ultimately I feel like Hardy will never be wrong here, James is likely but I have a sliver of doubt
And final 1/2 are between DD, Holt, Tubbs
DD and Holt for coming out Day 2 with roles that fit the bill for a Janitor lie
Tubbs for being one more Necromancer in the necro + SM dupe
Out of those 3 I'd say it's DD if it's only 1 more, and both Holt and DD if it's 2 more.
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Hardy you might wanna unlike the merge post lmao unless you'll agree that you're always the call
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Oh dear lord the possibility of a traitor bomb just crossed my mind and I'm fucking losing it at how funny that is
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Yeah I can't really spend more time on this. It's not perfect but I'm willing to lose the game flipping James and being wrong, or flipping Hardy and having a tougher time later with less info.
Will be back before end to lock.
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Also both ppl with deadlines who said they'd be busy are top posting.
I kinda agree about necro/spirit roles. 2 necros with a spirit medium is a bit too much. And chud, since I forgot and rereading will take too much effort, can you tell me the targets and results of action by teub and DD?
Teub on N2 used Necro on Gryff to use Gryff's ???? on DD- whatever the role was, it allegedly didn't give him feedback. (Also worth noting that Teub did this instead of necro'ing the dead Det
DD checked Gryff N2 - Gryff allegedly used his role on James
About the Det though, I feel like two dets is rather common. Not that I trust James. But I do not find 2 dets too much. Psychiatrist is likely to catch some TP like lovers or traitor or something probaly?
Hot Potato is neutral because it isn't alignment indicative and can be passed to anyone. In the event Hardy was T!Bomb it could mean that there's a hidden M!Bomb out there. Not sure tbh
The moment Brand flipped green responsability was thrown over the window and it was settled that I'd get lynched and lose. Same way "huh Kami lied it was all his fault" after ignoring Marm's post.