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I don't think investigative roles get results for their actions in the same night they were illusioned. Tho they get to share their earlier nights results I guess if they haven't already done so.
players become illusion at the end of night, so normally even if you are night killed you still get the results of investigation @GrySun @Gryffindor could you confirm ?
 

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I'm not really being subtle with what I am...

Do you think I shouldn't trust James here?
I mean it's in the best interest of a mafia mason to be recruited so asking for it or pretending to be a convenient role for it is a red flag. But we don't even know for sure if there is one or not, so it could be a genuine offer or not, hard to tell.
 

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Musketeer Tou are you confessing to a secondary?
Uh Bran what's even the point of this
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Oh, for the record, I too haven't had this role before. :fan:
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Hinting can be quite good for us, especially if *cough* a newcomer *cough* that starts as mafia wouldn't have the ability to align fake claims beforehand with his team, since they didn't talk yet.
This is just to illustrate why it could be nice btw woof, you don't have to provide something big on your role, just some crumbs.
 

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I’ll try to respect the intent of Ei Sei and Shou Hei Kun.
Not sure this free-for-all will last beyond day 1.
Let’s give audacious hosts some well deserved recognition.
Curious to see how it will be managed as well.
So woof. ;)

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Uh Bran what's even the point of this
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Add to that shino asking about generals. Did not like it either. At least secondary is more broad.
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Huh, my answer is inside the quote...
 

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5 generals would be a very good reason for a psy to be in this game. Since finding one general would give us a 40% chance of getting rid of a Mafia general. And losing free for all wouldn't be the end of the world since Mafia also profits from it.

btw i dont have any secondary role
Riiiiight, as is the majority of players in this game as I have no doubt. But I'm not sure if saying so is helpful for us. Then again, we don't know whenever or not Mafia wants to avoid killing townie generals or target them specifically. They could very well conclude that they profit more from the town strats being in-game than out of it. <.<
 

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Also Mafia Masons means we got a Mason Recruiter in our midst as well, which could be good or bad depending on who gets recruited. Also depending on how many Masons the MR starts with he or she might have already a Mafia Mason from the start.
Those are not a given, the text implies we don't have a confirmation for one or more of those roles being in the game.
 

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Those are not a given, the text implies we don't have a confirmation for one or more of those roles being in the game.
True, could be a well placed red herring. But I do remember a game where Mafia had several masons, though back then it was a large game and it had like two MRs and Mafia Masons were secondaries and there were lots of Super Masons as well. Hopefully we got 1 or 2 Super Masons as well on our side. With their spy network strat, Mafia is not really in need of infiltrating the Masons, except in avoiding a wasted kill, as in past games.
Only good thing is that they won't know who got the X number of roles they asked the hosts for.
 

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Considerig they need 2 generals, scum must be a single team, if they started with less they would be depleated too soon.
Hmmm I mean there could be a smaller mafia team with 2 generals still. There could be 2 teams with 2 generals each for example, so the possibility of 4 days guesses would also feel less strong. But I agree that a pair of mafia looks small, so still hoping it's indeed a single but smaller team with some extra thing out there.
 

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players become illusion at the end of night, so normally even if you are night killed you still get the results of investigation @GrySun @Gryffindor could you confirm ?
Yup Juviii pointed that out earlier as well. I confused the illusions results thing.
Still I don't like the illusions very much for other reasons, voting mess, wasted actions on illusions, and results confusions and such. It has pros and cons I guess.
 

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hosts kun I know its hard for everyone to find suitable ending phase time, but day is ending in the middle for me which is difficult, Im having very busy days I will do my best to stay awake a much as possible, after work but might struggle to stay till the end of the phase.
 

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5 generals would be a very good reason for a psy to be in this game. Since finding one general would give us a 40% chance of getting rid of a Mafia general. And losing free for all wouldn't be the end of the world since Mafia also profits from it.
That would also out our generals though...
 

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Yup Juviii pointed that out earlier as well. I confused the illusions results thing.
Still I don't like the illusions very much for other reasons, voting mess, wasted actions on illusions, and results confusions and such. It has pros and cons I guess.
yeah same
 

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2 Mafia teams is very unlikely IMO. Would make the mechanics less interesting too I think.
 

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Huh, my answer is inside the quote...
There are 2 mafia generals as well, not only townies are generals. Not like I kept asking him about that either.
And I was asked about that myself, by Sam.
 

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Also I just realized that when people are claiming to be 'Active' they're not stating that they'll be an active part of the conversation/game but instead claiming to have an active role. Coming from a role madness community where 100% of roles are active, this took a moment to register.

But yeah, same here, as the heir of the Ou family I too must take an active role in these troubling times.
Ah sorry about that request, I was behind at reading.

So right now, if it's not due to being late again, @James Rye and @Demonspeed are the ones that came by and disregarded hinting
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I don't think investigative roles get results for their actions in the same night they were illusioned. Tho they get to share their earlier nights results I guess if they haven't already done so.
They should cause investigating is prio 2 and killing is prio 3.
 
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