On Break One Piece Chapter 1193 Discussion

[Rein Avara]

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[Kizaruuu]

Here we go Silhouette sama..
another break
After that Oda might take another one.. Pacing is off but at least we got some Zoro hyppppppeeeeeee

 

[Bandit99]

Zoro my GOAT!!!

(I am SO tired of luffy’s run-out-of-energy gimmick oh my GOD)

 

[keeper1h]

Zoro

 

[ForeverOP]

Last road poneglyph in Elbaf that Biblo wants to show???

 

[Rein Avara]

Time limit sim here we go again, how utterly boring.

 

[Grimzilla32]

About time we got back to Zoro and Sanji taking those Gods Knights down

 

[Battle Wolf]

If Zoro and Sanji finish their job, they can come and help against Imu.

 

[costicla]

Oda back at it again with the silhouettes.

 

[kcd]

I've always wondered how Gunko could lose the upper half of her body and still regenerate... turns out they might be moving their hearts around like Trebol does with his body to avoid death. Or perhaps the heart is very durable and needs to be specially attacked with conqueror's haki to be destroyed. Anyways, this is huge.

Edit: thought we're past gear five minutes

 

[Imfamux]

I've always wondered how Gunko could lose the upper half of her body and still regenerate... turns out they might be moving their hearts around like Trebol does with his body to avoid death. Or perhaps the heart is very durable and needs to be specially attacked with conqueror's haki to be destroyed. Anyways, this is huge.

Edit: thought we're past gear five minutes

Maybe the heart itself has a will of its own ! Like Imu flames

 

[Kuroiyaiba]

I've always wondered how Gunko could lose the upper half of her body and still regenerate... turns out they might be moving their hearts around like Trebol does with his body to avoid death. Or perhaps the heart is very durable and needs to be specially attacked with conqueror's haki to be destroyed. Anyways, this is huge.

Edit: thought we're past gear five minutes

Guess it's about hitting the heart with advanced CoC. Didn't Loki go full throttle at Harold's heart as well?

 

[kcd]

Maybe the heart itself has a will of its own ! Like Imu flames

That could be the case, and if so, a Haki greater than the one (omen) it contains might be required to destroy it. What is certain though is that they received it from Imu.

On another note, I hope Sanji still unlocks Conqueror's Haki. However, it seems vaporizing it with heat could work as well. I mean, the goal is to destroy it now, right? Idk, the Holy Knights don't look that dangerous anymore now that we know the trick.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 8, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 8, 2026 ---

Guess it's about hitting the heart with advanced CoC. Didn't Loki go full throttle at Harold's heart as well?

Yeah, and it seems Harold also assisted by not defending with COC.

 

[Zehahaha]

Well fuck you Oda, I am sick of the running out of energy gimmick.

Why hybrid Loki silhouette ? Why stall ?

 

[Trip_LLL]

So, just when Luffy's fight takes a break, Zoro and Sanji get their fights. That said, Sanji is most likely finishing his fight before Zoro does, as per tradition.
For those asking why, peeps, I dont know how to tell you, but artificial fight lenghteners is how Oda controls fight timelines. He's not changing after decades in the game.
I do think Oda could have kept the fight going and then transition to the other two and show what happened, but he doesnt like going back in time narratively.


Regarding Zoro... If he's wondering about how to use Conq in an attack... Does Zoro not yet realize he used it with Asura? What does he think he's doing when he's using King of Hell? Guys, the common interpretation was that King of Hell infused Armament and Conq into it because of the lightning. Is that not what's going on? Or is Zoro accidentally about to create an even more focused variant King of Hell.
Because I get it. If Oda's saying King of Hell is Conq wildly/messily applied because Zoro doesn't know what he's doing, then I see the logic in saying that a focused application of Conq would give different results.

 

[kkck]

Finally back to zoro and sanji. For luffy to fly he needs his wings.

The steel heart remains a weird plot point. I can't help but think it's not actually an obvious weakness. Outside of sommers having it there's no reason to think this has anything to do with a vulnerability to dying or conqueror haki. Let alone that conqueror haki alone is supposed to be enough to kill imu and his servants. So why the heart? I think the heart has some other function and destroying it will result in some unforeseen nonsense to happen. Maybe it's something Saturn built and implanted in sommers...

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 8, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 8, 2026 ---

So, just when Luffy's fight takes a break, Zoro and Sanji get their fights. That said, Sanji is most likely finishing his fight before Zoro does, as per tradition.
For those asking why, peeps, I dont know how to tell you, but artificial fight lenghteners is how Oda controls fight timelines. He's not changing after decades in the game.
I do think Oda could have kept the fight going and then transition to the other two and show what happened, but he doesnt like going back in time narratively.


Regarding Zoro... If he's wondering about how to use Conq in an attack... Does Zoro not yet realize he used it with Asura? What does he think he's doing when he's using King of Hell? Guys, the common interpretation was that King of Hell infused Armament and Conq into it because of the lightning. Is that not what's going on? Or is Zoro accidentally about to create an even more focused variant King of Hell.
Because I get it. If Oda's saying King of Hell is Conq wildly/messily applied because Zoro doesn't know what he's doing, then I see the logic in saying that a focused application of Conq would give different results.

I'd say that's pretty much it. When zoro fought kaido he simply focuses all of his power into his blades and unknowingly unleashed his conqueror haki and dealt kaido a deep wound. The same repeated against king. Zoro is basically mindlessly focusing power into his blades like an asshole. Odds are that from his perspective king of hell techniques are the ones where he maximizes his haki output.

 

[AmyRose]

Nooooo, why we still get to see only a silhouette of Lokis hybrid? Oooooda, have some mercy upon us.

Anyway, wow, Zoro stabed Sommers just once and he almost got him? Yeeeaaah, it may be bait but if it's completly true then it seems like immortality dosen't help the Knights all that much. In fact it feels like it makes them feel way too secure in their position and thus also sloppy. Also Luffy used up all his energy once again? Man, seems like someone will have to do "food delivery" again. Unless Loki will take care of rest which feels possible if we add together fact that at least Zoro seem to be doing pretty well and Loki is about to go hybrid. Mayby losing at least Sommers will weaken Imu enough to push him out or force to retreat.

 

[Vanshrimp]

luffy definitly needs a dedicated training in energy control.

 

[AmyRose]

luffy definitly needs a dedicated training in energy control.

That I can agree on. Since Whitebeard Pirats and Roger Pirats once fought nonstop for few days or it even happen that Ace fought Jimbe for several days things like that may happen to Luffy too. And if that happen he WON'T be always able to take few breaks to "let his haki recharge", eat something or just regenerate some energy. So yeah, he needs better control because now it feels like he quickly burn through all his energy every time he use G5. Even when he doesn't do much. He need to learn how to "keep it in" when it comes to haki because I can bet most of his haki just leaks out of him when he fight in his "free form" and that's why he gets tired soo fast. That's why I hope Luffy and co will stay a little bit longer in Elbaf after all of this will end. You know, for quick training arc before they go to Loadstar (or whatever next island we visit before Laugh Tale is called).

 

[electricmastro]

Pfft, only 3 straw hats fighting, how disappointing.