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[Mountain-Photo-165]

Just give me the multiverse, Nakaba. Then at least we can blame everything on the Kongou, lol

 

[Yakkun]

Chaos would be more along the lines of the infinity stones themselves but close enough.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

So, if I understand correctly, you're so eager to criticize that you've forgotten that Lance, alongside Gawin, saved the elite squad that had been brainwashed by Carthur?
And this is shown by the one who says it (Ioladion), since she saw the state of her companions. Furthermore, why did Lance also unleash his aura in the demon world against Nanashi?

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 18, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 18, 2026 ---

Here you're confusing magical power and magical reserve. What the demons sense is Lancelot's magical power, which, for them, is superior to the demon king, period. Regarding his infinite reserve, if it automatically granted him infinite magical power, then from the beginning of the story, we would have had the mention that his power is infinite. The story has already distinguished between magical reserve and magical power. If Lancelot simply needed to drink this infinite reserve of magic to reach his prime, then the Lady of the Lake would never have said that he needed several years to complete his glittering path. Furthermore, why would his spear from when he was 10 years old have broken after using magic on it (something that didn't happen)?

Nope, didn't forget it. But I find getting beat within an inch of your life by Gawain and Lancelot at the outskirts of Wallnack a super weird way of saying "he saved us". But perhaps you and Nakaba see that differently, considering the weird choices he has made during the last 100 chapters. I guess it follows an established pattern.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Spoiler: [Theory] We were wrong about the 4KOTA prophecy.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

I think I've figured out something very interesting that Nakaba sneaked in previously, but nobody noticed.

It's about the Holy Grail. Why is it so important in the future? After all, it's just a cup containing Arthur's blood.

It shouldn't matter that much since Arthur can bleed into any cup he wants and create multiple Holy Grails. So, why is this specific grail so crucial?

The only logical explanation is that Arthur loses his power to control Chaos in the future.

This further supports the theory that Cath will eat Arthur whole, causing him to lose his ability to control Chaos after Cath is defeated.

As a result, Chaos takes full control of Arthur's body.

Now, the only way to fight Chaos is by using weapons made from the Holy Grail.

This specific artifact is so important because it contains the blood of Arthur from a time when he still possessed the power to control Chaos.

 

[Mighty Escanor]

Spoiler: [Theory] We were wrong about the 4KOTA prophecy.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

I think I've figured out something very interesting that Nakaba sneaked in previously, but nobody noticed.

It's about the Holy Grail. Why is it so important in the future? After all, it's just a cup containing Arthur's blood.

It shouldn't matter that much since Arthur can bleed into any cup he wants and create multiple Holy Grails. So, why is this specific grail so crucial?

The only logical explanation is that Arthur loses his power to control Chaos in the future.

This further supports the theory that Cath will eat Arthur whole, causing him to lose his ability to control Chaos after Cath is defeated.

As a result, Chaos takes full control of Arthur's body.

Now, the only way to fight Chaos is by using weapons made from the Holy Grail.

This specific artifact is so important because it contains the blood of Arthur from a time when he still possessed the power to control Chaos.

The story is at a turning point rn. Nakaba can use the current development to get rid of Cath and even Chaos all together. I with these arcs are about end of Chaos and separation of the worlds more than anything else.

In that case, the HG becomes an even more important object with or without the blood. A relic of the past when Chaos existed and Arthur was her final hots. Arthur losing Chaos is a better decision than Arthur losing control fully submitting to Chaos. The same cycle should not repeat forever. The story needs an "end of an era" moment more than any other time.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

The story is at a turning point rn. Nakaba can use the current development to get rid of Cath and even Chaos all together. I with these arcs are about end of Chaos and separation of the worlds more than anything else.

In that case, the HG becomes an even more important object with or without the blood. A relic of the past when Chaos existed and Arthur was her final hots. Arthur losing Chaos is a better decision than Arthur losing control fully submitting to Chaos. The same cycle should not repeat forever. The story needs an "end of an era" moment more than any other time.

There is no way Nakaba is getting rid of Chaos; he will have to introduce a bigger threat which doesn't exist .

Additionally, this story is bound to have a Part 3 because of Guinevere’s vision, where she mentioned a period when Lancelot kisses her at age 19.

So, I think what will happen is that Cath will eat Arthur whole, absorb the full power of Chaos, and evolve into a new final form.

Then, the Four Knights of the Apocalypse will fight and destroy him. However, with Cath gone, Chaos will completely take over Arthur from within.

Chaos will then recreate the world anew. This would fulfill the 4KOTA prophecy: by freeing it, they indirectly destroy the world by unleashing the very entity that will recreate it.

After all, Chaos is the only one capable of recreating the world anew, and Galahad did say that the world before and after this incident would be completely different.

 

[Jasmine x che]

So is the goddess realm next after?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

So is the goddess realm next after?

I think the final battle will take place in the Demon Realm. Logically, Lancelot should have picked the Celestial Realm instead, since no Goddesses are left alive except for Mael.

Why would Lancelot choose the Demon Realm—where he would have to genocide an entire race—instead of just killing Mael?

Does Lancelot like Mael so much that he prefers to wipe out the entire Demon race instead of only killing him?

I believe this is the plot at work here; Nakaba's intention was never to take us to the Goddess Realm, especially with Lancelot trying to destroy it, as that would be a waste of potential.

Nakaba plans to end everything in the Demon Realm. If we think about it, the anti-Lancelot squad shouldn't just wait around while he destroys every other realm until it's their turn; they must be fully prepared by now and will confront him directly.

But to be fair , I could be wrong because Liones seems to have been destroyed in the future for some reason so Lancelot might have been the cause of that.

 

[Mighty Escanor]

There is no way Nakaba is getting rid of Chaos; he will have to introduce a bigger threat which doesn't exist .

Additionally, this story is bound to have a Part 3 because of Guinevere’s vision, where she mentioned a period when Lancelot kisses her at age 19.

So, I think what will happen is that Cath will eat Arthur whole, absorb the full power of Chaos, and evolve into a new final form.

Then, the Four Knights of the Apocalypse will fight and destroy him. However, with Cath gone, Chaos will completely take over Arthur from within.

Chaos will then recreate the world anew. This would fulfill the 4KOTA prophecy: by freeing it, they indirectly destroy the world by unleashing the very entity that will recreate it.

After all, Chaos is the only one capable of recreating the world anew, and Galahad did say that the world before and after this incident would be completely different.

That's about my personal wish. I don't think your idea is bad, but there are other ways part 3 can work without Chaos and specially Cath around. Not to mention that in an isolated human only world, threats can be defined differently compared to the current story universe of NnT/MnYK.

Look at Merlin. Her daily habit had been messing with deities for a long time! But it wasn't her raw power that enabled her to do so. She is great at planning and coming up with new ideas to make things work. Her fight against Chandler and Cusack is a best example of it.

Merlin is in fact the perfect example of how threatening a human in this story can be even scaring the likes of masters and Luod.

Another reason I like a more balanced world without the likes of Chaos in it is the unforgettable experience many of us had with the first major arc of NnT. When Liones HKs were the antagonists and the SDS weren't as broken as they became later. To many, that is still the best part of NnT, with the least number of asspulls. It's not a bad idea to return to that form of stroy instead of focusing on extreme powerhouses with no internal complexities.

Mordred or whoever the villain of part 3 might be, their ace can be a mind that thinks and plans, not a mindless idiot who only wants to destroy. Good villains are necessary for a good story. And we didn't have one since Hendy's defeat.

It's Nakaba's story and his decision to how the part 3 will look like at the end of the day. But I still hope he decides what is best for the story I love so much, and to end it in a better shape than the already boring one dimensional confrontation between an insanely powerful villain and a group of MCs fortified by the plot armour!

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

So is the goddess realm next after?

If Nakaba hasn't forgotten about it completely, we can hope it is mentioned and explored in the future! But how can that realm become relevant as long as author's favorite realm still exists?!

 

[Yakkun]

I think the final battle will take place in the Demon Realm. Logically, Lancelot should have picked the Celestial Realm instead, since no Goddesses are left alive except for Mael.

Why would Lancelot choose the Demon Realm—where he would have to genocide an entire race—instead of just killing Mael?

Does Lancelot like Mael so much that he prefers to wipe out the entire Demon race instead of only killing him?

I believe this is the plot at work here; Nakaba's intention was never to take us to the Goddess Realm, especially with Lancelot trying to destroy it, as that would be a waste of potential.

Nakaba plans to end everything in the Demon Realm. If we think about it, the anti-Lancelot squad shouldn't just wait around while he destroys every other realm until it's their turn; they must be fully prepared by now and will confront him directly.

But to be fair , I could be wrong because Liones seems to have been destroyed in the future for some reason so Lancelot might have been the cause of that.

What about Ban? He will go there, too?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

The reason I didn't think Lancelot would go to Britannia is that no one in the future had heard of him turning evil and going on a genocidal march through the worlds.

This is highly unusual, considering everyone knew about the Demon King’s battle against the Seven Deadly Sins due to its massive scale.

If Lancelot had engaged in a similar battle, people would have certainly noticed; a clash of that magnitude cannot be kept secret, regardless of how much those involved try to cover it up.

However, on second thought, I could be entirely wrong. Lancelot might actually destroy—or nearly destroy—all the worlds before he is finally snapped back to normal and Cath is expelled from him.

This theory aligns with Galahad's words; when speaking about the Seven Deadly Sins, he didn't refer to them as historical figures, but rather as legends from a fantasy world.

This shift is deeply concerning, especially given his subsequent comment that the worlds before and after this incident are completely different places.

Such a drastic change can only be explained if the world was remade anew and humanity's collective memories were wiped in the process, erasing all traces of non-human existence.

Consequently, the existence of non-humans faded into mere myth, mirroring our own real world.

 

[tdtd1234]

The knights of the grail appearing already changes the future, so I don't think we can use their description of the future to predict what happens.

For one chaos Lancelot wouldn't have Ysaye's spear in the original timeline and we know he can't fight properly without a weapon.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

The knights of the grail appearing already changes the future, so I don't think we can use their description of the future to predict what happens.

For one chaos Lancelot wouldn't have Ysaye's spear in the original timeline and we know he can't fight properly without a weapon.

Whether the Knights of the Holy Grail traveling to the past is a time loop or not, I think the destruction of the world is inevitable.

That is literally what the 4KOTA prophecy is about—they will bring about the end of the world one way or another, we just don't know how yet.

Also the separation of humans and non-humans is certain , it was in the beginning of every 7DS episode.

 

[Rey151203]

You know, I still don't understand why they keep mentioning that Lancelot has more magic than the Demon King.

We already know Lancelot has more magic than anyone else because he literally possesses infinite magic, so it's not like they are saying anything new.

His issue, however, has always been his inability to utilize it because he lacks a Sacred Treasure.

It's a known fact that Lancelot surpassed the Demon King in magic the moment he absorbed the lake at age 10.

But does having more magic mean he can actually beat him in a fight?

Of course not. Without a way to properly utilize that power, his magic remains a completely non-factor in battle.

As the villain of 7DS, the Demon King is a power benchmark for the series currently, as we've finally reached the level of the gods.

Even the fact that Zeldris acknowledges Cath's presence and says she is far more powerful and surpasses the Demon King confirms what I said earlier in this forum, and what they said I was foolish about: the gods have more magical power than Cath Palug.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

Do yall want to see Chaos Lancelot vs Arthur w Excalibur or rather have Arthur sit this one out?

As a fan of the legends, I would love to see Excalibur shine, but it will be difficult, though I still hope it will be of great help in this battle.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2026 ---

The story has already distinguished between magical reserve and magical power. If Lancelot simply needed to drink this infinite reserve of magic to reach his prime, then the Lady of the Lake would never have said that he needed several years to complete his glittering path. Furthermore, why would his spear from when he was 10 years old have broken after using magic on it (something that didn't happen)?

This raises a question for me: how much of the magical power within Lancelot (without chaos) actually belongs to him or to the Lady of the Lake?


Even though the Lady of the Lake doesn't possess true infinite power, she certainly has some level of magical power, and it's definitely not weak. And when Lancelot emerges from the lake, he manages to launch a perfect Shining Road, something he hadn't been able to do moments before.

So currently Lancelot would have 3 magical forces within him.
her own, that of the Lady of the Lake, a part of chaos

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Spoiler: Reality Warping on This Scale Can Only Be the Work of Chaos,Right?

--- Double Post Merged, Sunday at 4:21 PM, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2026 ---

Guys, I think I'm onto something very creepy about the future that the Knights of the Holy Grail came from, and the clue lies in Tristan's death in the future.

I've always assumed that the one who brought the Knights of the Holy Grail to the past was Chaos itself.

However, if we assume Chaos was defeated in the future as the villain of Part 3, how could it be the culprit?

This implies Chaos would already know it is going to be defeated. If it knew exactly what was going to happen, how could it actually lose?

There's also the idea that the Four Knights of the Apocalypse are called 'the greatest of heroes' and 'the heroes of Camelot.'

What exactly did they do to earn those titles? They must have done something truly extraordinary in the future.

What if they are considered the greatest heroes because they actually brought about the end of the old world?

Think about it: when they destroyed Cath, Chaos was freed and took over Arthur. Using its power, it destroyed the world and reshaped it into a new one.

But that's not all. Chaos might have also warped everyone's memories, brainwashing them into serving it under the guise of King Arthur, and using its reality-warping abilities to force them into keeping quiet about the incident

Tristan's death in the future could be the ultimate clue here. Since his power consists of both light and darkness—just like Chaos—he might have been the first to notice that something was wrong with their reality. Because he couldn't be controlled, Chaos decided to get rid of him

This isn't the first time this happened , OG Gowther used Mass Memory Manipulation on reality to create the whole Mael/Estarossa situation.

 

[Covers]

Why would Lancelot go to goddess realm? He wants to buy as much possible time for 3KoA to forge the weapons and train them.

Only Mael and some fodders are aljve? There is no Behemoth nor Indura equivalent there.

Mael absorbing the other 3 graces would be a good power up.

Or another asspull power up.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Spoiler: [Theory] Tristan's "situation" might be a clue that something's wrong with reality

 

[Jasmine x che]

Why would Lancelot go to goddess realm? He wants to buy as much possible time for 3KoA to forge the weapons and train them.

Only Mael and some fodders are aljve? There is no Behemoth nor Indura equivalent there.

Mael absorbing the other 3 graces would be a good power up.

Or another asspull power up.

He could go after destroying the demon realm

 

[Covers]

He could go after destroying the demon realm

Yeah that is what most likely going to happen.

 

[Rey151203]

Ah yes, now we have 9 names from the Round Table in the manga.

Arthur
Percival
Lancelot
Tristan
Gawain
bors
Gareth
Kay
galahad

Based on Rising Impact, we will have 25 characters with names of Knights of the Round Table.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

I am almost certain that Chaos was used to warp reality and brainwash everyone into treating the subject as a taboo. However, because Tristan is a Nephilim, he was the only person who broke this taboo, which is why he was killed in the future. Ultimately, Tristan's death is the biggest clue supporting this theory for he's the only one who can defy Chaos because he also has the power of Light/Darkness.