Games Mafia Game 144 - Pan the Diver - Day 1 (extended)

[Copy Panda]

D1 VOTES

Voting 8/16

3x DD - Nash #90 #182, Lumi #105, Gry #153
1x Holt - DD #20
1x Gry - Dego #42
1x Sam - Eri #83
1x Mazi - Tatsu #86
1x Slyth - Vali #125

DAY DURATION

Beware of the poll closing time. You can change your poll vote as often as you like.

Because of the hosts' work schedules and game start time, Day 1 is longer.
After this, we will return to regular ~24/~12 schedules

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[SirSamuel016]

Yo yo
I drink heavy like I'm Brandish
I reckon dego's team will make me vanish
Let me clarify what I meant when I spoke
before my time is up like when the dockers choke
Grrrrrr, big balling like I'm an Ashcroft
I go hard with my reads, I ain't soft
dego is one of the reds, I've seen him slip
just like freo he'll never touch the premiership
I'm Logan Morris with the way my back is shot but I still carry
when I go for goal you bums cannot parry
when we go down to 51-100m, things get dangerous
there's something down there that endangers us
dego is my inverse so I know he's got a motive
its up to me to stop him getting-

 

[Lady pompom]

Lynching DD now will left us without Spy if he was saying the truth, and if he isn't the real spy can't reveal it without being the next night killing objetive imo, there are other sus peoples so I not share targeting him in D1, maybe I'm too dumb to figure it lol but seems he'll be lynched anyway without my vote

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 10:50 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 10:46 AM ---

I'll try to be back before day ends, catch u later

I agree with you, I don’t think it’s a good idea to lunch DD sushi for first day, if he’s real spy/det, we’re losing a lot here. Cause as I see it, spy can def catch some unprepared mafias lying about their roles/actions.

I don’t like how pushy Natasha is amd I don’t agree with her reasoning either, because DD is very often used as fodder for mistaken lynches so

votekill Natasha

 

[arrowofsky]

I voted for 40 m ascension as I really wonder what can be gotten there though we probably wont go off surface as next most option dives 80 m.

 

[Natasha]

Cause as I see it, spy can def catch some unprepared mafias lying about their roles/actions.

I don’t agree with her reasoning either,

So you belive a real spy/det would be voting ascend 40m and remain vanilla townie, which is what DD is claiming right now.

 

[arrowofsky]

I agree with you, I don’t think it’s a good idea to lunch DD sushi for first day, if he’s real spy/det, we’re losing a lot here. Cause as I see it, spy can def catch some unprepared mafias lying about their roles/actions.

I don’t like how pushy Natasha is amd I don’t agree with her reasoning either, because DD is very often used as fodder for mistaken lynches so

votekill Natasha

I understand the premise of losing a spy early in the game as we lost a spy, DD again, just the last game early and cooked. But how do you really interpret low number and ambiguous posta by him? I am not really voting like sure on DD so i still did not put a one, though how are you not suspicious for instance?

 

[Tatsumaki]

I am not done backreading but just to make it clear : I voted twice to dive and ascend so we stay in surface basically. It was explained that top 2 options win so I thought voting twice was a requirement. I don't want to just ascend 40m and get out of the water. I like it here.

 

[Holt]

Don’t know if the hosts confirmed if we should be voting more than once but I’ve modified mine to just one. Regarding DD, it’s odd indeed to vote for ascend rather than diving but there’s been a quite the insistence on DD even before then ?

 

[SirSamuel016]

ngl I didn't even realise we could input multiple votes
I'm still at +60 down, but added -20 (up)

 

[shinobi]

I'm busy and I skimmed through the pages and didn't read everything yet , but I don't like voting DD. Sure he could have lied about his reveal, and he voted for surface but we know how messy DD usually is. Still, we don't need to lynch him rn, no?

I don't like how Princess Natasha locked DD.

Gry said I antagonized him/others? who wanted to stay at surface, not true. I made a couple of posts stating my thoughts on all this. Not understanding such simple logic is weird.

Holt feels like he's here but not here.

Sam said he sus me but I don't know what exactly he found sus. Earlier also he said he's fine with any depth which didn't sit well with me, I feel mafia are the ones that are fine with any depth as they can kill with any role. And I'm guessing they have repeated roles between their member so they're generally fine. A townie would try to get the role they found better/stronger/more appealing.

I'll probably vote someone here.

 

[Holt]

I don’t like how pushy Natasha is amd I don’t agree with her reasoning either, because DD is very often used as fodder for mistaken lynches so

do you want to elaborate on this? The reasoning is sound. Given DD’s reveal, he would ideally be prioritising depth especially since investigative roles already take time. Voting in favor of surface would only handicap him.

 

[Natasha]

Don’t know if the hosts confirmed if we should be voting more than once but I’ve modified mine to just one. Regarding DD, it’s odd indeed to vote for ascend rather than diving but there’s been a quite the insistence on DD even before then ?

He voted Otto, your avatar, before you posted so he didn't know it was you. Sam pointed out it could've been a mafia slip if you're teamed.

I broke down hint quality into a list and voted DD citing Sam's theory as why I chose him over the others. Lumii & Gry followed, Gry giving his own reasoning.

The pressure made him claim. I'm pushing for him to be todays wagon cause I think he slipped.

I think that's the breakdown of the DD sus today.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

How would you call him? I'm not writing Vali x lucifer every time. What is a vali x lucifer anyway. Why does he name himself after a presumably satanic ship?

It's not a ship, it's name and surname.
The X is there because the id was already taken the first time i used it, so i added an x in the middle.

 

[arrowofsky]

It's not a ship, it's name and surname.
The X is there because the id was already taken the first time i used it, so i added an x in the middle.

Hello satanic shipping friend xD

 

[Vali x lucifer]

It's not a ship, it's name and surname.
The X is there because the id was already taken the first time i used it, so i added an x in the middle.

Also, Val or whatever is absolutely fine, i don't mind

 

[Tatsumaki]

Since im dying anyway I have townie spy townie detective

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so 3 roles

Oh

and if he isn't the real spy can't reveal it without being the next night killing objetive imo

Just using this quote to point out that given all that depth (depht ? detph ? ) mech there are probably a gew repetitive roles. We might have two people with spy roles, and 3 with det roles, just at different depht/deft/idk. Probably different sanities too. Sanity checking will most likely be annoying for them.

 

[Copy Panda]

ill update votes in say 20~30 mins

 

[Tatsumaki]

I'm not sure I'll join DD train but Natasha reasoning seems sound to me. Why would you want to stay at the level you're not so useful ?
@digi have you explained why you wanted to stay on surface level btw ?

 

[SirSamuel016]

Sam said he sus me but I don't know what exactly he found sus. Earlier also he said he's fine with any depth which didn't sit well with me, I feel mafia are the ones that are fine with any depth as they can kill with any role. And I'm guessing they have repeated roles between their member so they're generally fine. A townie would try to get the role they found better/stronger/more appealing.

lol

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Currently, one unit of sus is going towards Natasha, for post #90. A 4 colour suspicion tierlist leading into a vote that Lumi could then piggyback off of, all after 80-ish pretty uninspiring posts (and ofc my posts, which are all inspiring). It's a pretty hard sell, almost comes off as her trying a bit too hard.

On the flip side, her RP is great, and I don't lynch RPers on the first day by policy.

Honestly, the fact we seriously discussed whether the joke vote was anything but a bit for as long as we did feels like generated hot air, I'd bet at least one participant of that is scum.

Beyond that, Degojaru's posts have felt very safe. Despite having posted a lot, a lot of what had been posted feels like recap posts where they will simply reiterate or reframe something without adding their own two cents or attempting to shift the convo.

Oh, and I am very much trying to not OMGUS this, but:



Although I don't agree with the logic that early coordination is suspect, because it is often scum that overthink and fail to coordinate early compared to townies who just gotta put their chest into it knowing full well it ain't going to get easier or clearer over time, even if I were to follow that reasoning, you went for me and not, like, Sam or something? Huh...

Since i don't have firm suspects yet i just went with one pick that fit my theory but wasn't already voted to avoid placing a decisive vote early on, also because i am mostly a noob in this kind of game.

 

[Tatsumaki]

How do we see who voted what ?

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Nvm I'm dumb