Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

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I am talking about Shinies. Since they don't use shinsu, it doesn't work on them. But for GWs they only use shinsu, so it works.
They don't need to use, inhaling exhaling is enough. They are not as out of system as you think anymore.
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SIU abandoned us.
@O_n_Sly did SIU abandoned us?
 

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Also, we don't know if Enryu or Phantaminium is still in tower or not. No canonical exit info for them afaik, even though them staying sounds weird.
Idk about Enryu because it's odd. He could have been in the tower before too like staying in outer tower. What we do know is that Phanta is an axis. The whole reason for tower existence is to create one. So doubt it could hold him off. Besides if we go per Obrion's word, it seems he left the tower for shinies to take over
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They don't need to use, inhaling exhaling is enough. They are not as out of system as you think anymore
That's not how it works. We saw UM punching the Rupture. If he had used the Shinsu only, it wouldn't be effective. But if light is used it doesn't get cut and instead gets destroyed.
 

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That's not how it works. We saw UM punching the Rupture. If he had used the Shinsu only, it wouldn't be effective. But if light is used it doesn't get cut and instead gets destroyed.
I think you are confused.

Shinsoo is everywhere and you have some of them the moment you enter. Urek utilized the shinsoo within him so it was like his personality in his first unconscious attempts at the ship. Secondly, what else destroyed the rupture remember? It was something shinsoo still.
 

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I think you are confused.

Shinsoo is everywhere and you have some of them the moment you enter. Urek utilized the shinsoo within him so it was like his personality in his first unconscious attempts at the ship. Secondly, what else destroyed the rupture remember? It was something shinsoo still.
How would u explain UM being able to destroy Rupture then?
 

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How would u explain UM being able to destroy Rupture then?
However Gustang exclaimed about it.
Rupture/Disconnection was not immune against anything shinsoo. Its 2D was not evendoing anything against shinsoo-powered Hunos. 3D had conceptual case in it but so Purple spark from Blossom. There was simply nothing there that suggest anything can withstand against or destroy rupture should have been non-shinsoo. In another example, 2D Disconnection cut Gustang's arm and he was even wearing prosthetics post-Traumerei. This guy normally was an irregular.
 

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Obrion along with other are seen toying with UM, teasing him. They don't even refer UM as lord. Only Phantaminum is referred as one. Besides Phanta is able to leave the tower which UM hasn't been able to do it. It's a feat UM, the axis hasn't shown. Even Enryu is gone but he is stucked. If they were at same level, Phanta should have been stucked too
We do not know whether phanta has left the tower or not and even arlen managed to get out of tower so it has nothing to do with being an axis. Aubrion was not teasing. He was literally describing tower's purpose --



It doesn't get any simpler than this. Urek and phanta are on same level.
 

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Its 2D was not evendoing anything against shinsoo-powered Hunos
Gussy mentioned Hunos is the very wind that blows outside. That's why it couldn't do anything.

3D had conceptual case in it but so Purple spark from Blossom
Have we read the story correctly? Blossom flames are direct counter to Rupture.

In another example, 2D Disconnection cut Gustang's arm and he was even wearing prosthetics post-Traumerei. This guy normally was an irregular.
Huh, what r u saying? Gussy lost his arm, he couldn't even create a new arm for him like Kallavan did. And had to use prosthetic one.
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It doesn't get any simpler than this. Urek and phanta are on same level.
I don't see the word level used. In your opinion the guardian Enryu killed and headon are same level?
 

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I don't see the word level used. In your opinion the guardian Enryu killed and headon are same level?
If it is mentioned that all admins are on same level then yes just like aubrion mentions urek and phantaminium in same light. The axis born will be an immense being like urek OR phantaminium. In the statement urek and phantaminium are replaceable when talking about axis power.
 

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But when it clashes with other powered by another element. It doesn't work. That's the reason why UM was able to punch the Rupture.
Yeah, but that's fucking UM an axis (now)
I don't see any other reason or conclusive evidence to believe that rupture will have no effect on other shiny ones.
 

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Yeah, but that's fucking UM an axis (now)
I don't see any other reason or conclusive evidence to believe that rupture will have no effect on other shiny ones.
But at the same time he, an axis got trapped in the dark charge. Unless u think Dark Charge is greater than Rupture tho, that even an axis has no way.
 

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But at the same time he, an axis got trapped in the dark charge. Unless u think Dark Charge is greater than Rupture tho, that even an axis has no way.
I would love to support your latter statement but urek stalemated in dark charge is obviously an urek thing mostly, not that his power is insufficient.
 

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I would love to support your latter statement but urek stalemated in dark charge is obviously an urek thing mostly, not that his power is insufficient.
Once u could call it UM thing. Not twice and not certainly thrice. He had to let Revs go because Mirchea interfered. He himself admitted that
 

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But at the same time he, an axis got trapped in the dark charge. Unless u think Dark Charge is greater than Rupture tho, that even an axis has no way.
Dark is a natural enemy of light; it's not that unthinkable.
 

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Dark is a natural enemy of light; it's not that unthinkable.
Dark Charge is more of his transformation. The one which trapped UM is bright charge. Besides Mirchea powers are spells not darkness or light
 

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I never got to mention just how thankful I am for SIU establishing with this Spin-off that the Revos weren't just an absolutely delusional group like FUG and it's Slayers nonsense besides Baam of course when they boldly proclaimed that they were gonna kill the Family head and would be ready next time.

You don't know what wonders this had done for me because boy, it was absolutely needed else I could see where this was all going.

So this war ain't gonna be a one-sided slaughter baby!!:shout
 

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But at the same time he, an axis got trapped in the dark charge. Unless u think Dark Charge is greater than Rupture tho, that even an axis has no way.

I love that argument and you must be joking right ? since when he got trapped in the dark charge ? because urek didn't destroy it ?

wasn't luslec used that spell to save Revolutionists asses when urek wanted to punch revolutionists ? it was the same spell and it got destroyed by traumerei like piece of paper

at the same time urek destroyed traumereis disconnection and eurasias flame like piece of paper (trauemreis disconenction > luslecs any spell and also eurasias flame is above traumeres any spell ) , unless you believe that urek couldn't do it yet urek destroyed much more powerful things which must be funny LOL

luslec used same spell also when Urek was going after V and urek destroyed it like piece of paper

so you guys either dont follow story or dont even know what are you talking about

and since when urek is trapped ? name me one chapter that says that urek is trapped ? Cuz urek told to baam that he will get out of this tower ? and does it mean that he is trapped ? his all enemies are in this tower and they want to devour it and they want to take power for themselves and urek is like last idiot will say " oh i will get out of this tower" but i will leave my enemies there those guys will devour tower and i will let that happen


and luslec told to urek that he(urek) wanted to get out but urek never said that he couldn't do it , and luslec and urek met each other maybe 10 000 years ago so at that time urek was seeking where was the exit and all that but that is in the past not in the future

gustang said that this must be a joke that he is trapped LOL

urek never met any of those fodders and they dont even know what urek wants or wanted in the past , in the first chapters he was seeking yes surely


and if you think a building can trap him you must be joking , tower neither can stop his light nor tower can stop or suppress his physical powers that is enough to kill anyone .

A building cannot stop you if you could fly

simply put you need to go at the endge and make hole in it that's easy after all this is a building not an univeres , tower is literally a building .


so saying like urek got trapped yeah that is a big joke , urek is fucking old, older than any tower being you have seen including fh or anyone in this tower exception is shining ones and pentaminum rest are youngster compared to him


you either dont follow story or i dont even know what to tell

you think urek got trapped by dark charge yet at the same time tramereis power(disconnection) destroyed that easily, unless you believe that to destroy disconnection is very easy compared to some spell (to some dark charge / or spell casted after luslec used that form and after that luslec used the same form to make the same spell again and again)

(I.e eurasias flame) also got destroyed by urek easily that is way above disconnection

So Eurasias flame > Traumereis disconnection > That spell that was casted by luslec constantly again and again and again

I will remind you that urek destroyed all those things together Eurasias flame that would fry trauemrei like chicken and his power was enough to vaporized luslecs puny spell easily

and i will repeat: urek is an idiot if he will get out even after we all know that shining ones are in this tower and pentaminum is also here and urek like a dumb clown will get out yet at the same time he was following pentaminum LOL at the past we could say that he is trapped but how can anyone even think that he is trapped LOL


urek wants to kill shinies and pentaminum and the guy he was following but he will get out and let pentaminum to devour it yeah nice joke





Some even think that axisers were reality warpers yet it wan't said anywhere , nowhere LOL

Axis is just a power nothing else

and even in TUS most powerful axiser died yet if that axiser(and nothing saved his poor ass) had any kind of reality crapping ability he could just rewrite reality or make himself really immortal yet he died att the hands of weaklings


And if you think axiser of this tower will be a some powerful being that would be able destroy all and everything you will be disappointed and there are reasons for that: First Guardians and Gws and Towerborn are using the same power but do they all have same level of the power ? surely not , in shinsoo there is no limit.

Gws use the same power and towerborns use the same power but can towerborn be as powerful as GW ? certainly not so there's is that . can a GW be as powerful as a Guardian ? no, but its not impossible if we add to them technology or crap like thorn that amplifies their ability to control shinsoo at much greater scale (thorn that i believe it is a gem ).
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Urek literally destroyed the same spell luslec used against hm when he was catching V LOL just look at pics posted by me

You guys dont follow story at all .

Siu literally told to us that he isn't trapped but ppl think cuz they want that LOL

trapped like luslec trapped him yet in reality i have posted pic that says otherwise LOL he literally destroyed the same spell , like traumerei did
but again ppl see only what do they want to see

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Some even dont know that Axisers never ever have been reality warpers, IN THE TUS story most powerful of them have died at the hands of weaklings "Top 1 axiser with reality warping ability" got killed by weaker axisers ? yet that axiser who was more powerful i.e conqueror king he should have made rule that'd make him unkillable or a record for himself but hihi he couldn't cuz they weren't reality warpers . only reality warper in this story is Darkness and Light . darkness that is far bigger than light and light that appeared in the darknes so we have aball and inside of that ball we have some light i.e univeres .

Darkness existed for forever and it cannot be killed nor destroyed its just void .


Pentaminum didn't destroy tower not cuz he couldn't because he doesn't want to he wants power not to destroy it LOL
if he wanted to destroy the system he could go and kill all guardians and all that crap and tower would just crumble and that's all but he never did .


Urek doesn't want to go rampage not cuz he cannot but only becaues he doesn't want to twist the story . they all have the reasons for what they do or don't do .

cuz A doesn't do B it doesn't mean he cannot .
 
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unless you believe that urek couldn't do it yet urek destroyed much more powerful things which must be funny LOL
All I would say is match up matters a lot. Blossoms flame no not even flame but a spark destroyed thousands of Ruptures instantly but when it clashed with Traumerei's animals, it wasn't able to destroy it like it did with Rupture. Doesn't mean Traumerei's animals are far stronger than Rupture?
 

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Dark Charge is more of his transformation. The one which trapped UM is bright charge. Besides Mirchea powers are spells not darkness or light
a spell based on darkness in the tower, no? because that was his whole monologue, unless I missed something.
 

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I never got to mention just how thankful I am for SIU establishing with this Spin-off that the Revos weren't just an absolutely delusional group like FUG and it's Slayers nonsense besides Baam of course when they boldly proclaimed that they were gonna kill the Family head and would be ready next time.

You don't know what wonders this had done for me because boy, it was absolutely needed else I could see where this was all going.

So this war ain't gonna be a one-sided slaughter baby!!:shout
FUG is not delusional either. Maschenny said that they just recently became bolder, acted "weird". Simply because they not only have an irregular now, but it has V in it.

You guys just look at Yama and White and assume FUG is bag of shit xD
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a spell based on darkness in the tower, no? because that was his whole monologue, unless I missed something.
Almost all he did was spells, except his flower (forget the spell name) punch and direct punch against Urek.

And transformation my ass xD he just had his cloth teared a bit .
 

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a spell based on darkness in the tower, no? because that was his whole monologue, unless I missed something.
His powers are based on shinsu, not darkness. The thing he talked about darkness was a figure of speech. Like how FUG operates in shadows. And him being the head is that darkness which let FUG roam.
 
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