Mostly just skipping over this power scaling debate but I did catch the comment on whether Nakaba has made a statement about Chaos Arthur so far.
Well, a long time ago he actually did say something about Arthur if he had 1st awakened Chaos back when he went to get Excalibur:
NNT Fanbook Untold Stories - Interview - pg 168:[In episode 256, if Arthur's power had awakened, would he have been able to defeat Meliodas, Zeldris, Chandler, and Cusack?]
Nakaba: that's true. If he had awakened the power of Chaos, I think he could have won.
Mostly just skipping over this power scaling debate but I did catch the comment on whether Nakaba has made a statement about Chaos Arthur so far.
Well, a long time ago he actually did say something about Arthur if he had 1st awakened Chaos back when he went to get Excalibur:
NNT Fanbook Untold Stories - Interview - pg 168:[In episode 256, if Arthur's power had awakened, would he have been able to defeat Meliodas, Zeldris, Chandler, and Cusack?]
Nakaba: that's true. If he had awakened the power of Chaos, I think he could have won.
That just stated the obvious, lol. Would he still have difficulty? Probably, since he would have just unleashed chaos. In that scenario, it seems Excalibur was the catalyst.
Cath was never ever stated not able to control all of Chaos ever if anything him absorbing more from Arthur would be redundant since according to you he can't control not even half of it that doesn't makes any sense.
Cath himself says this when he loses to Ban and Meliodas: "If I had control of Arthur's power, I would be able to fully control the power of Chaos." He doesn't say "obtain," he says "control".
This 100% implies that Cath, even though he has most of the chaos power inside him, he has no access to all that power because he needs Arthur for this.
It's worth remembering that Chaos is still a conscious entity, That must be why Cath doesn't "control everything," you could say the entity only obeys Arthur for real, lol.
-Because in fact he is, just as Ban is the strongest sin because Escanor is dead.
-Also Chaos is a being of pure power without physical form, so the concept of physical strength doesn't apply to it. When it entered Arthur, it didn't buff his physical strength, but rather his magical power and ability to alter reality. If Arthur and Cath have high physical strength, it's precisely because they used the power of Chaos to increase their physical capabilities; it's not something automatic.
Lancelot is below the gods, chaos Arthur is above them, fact, there's no discussion here, I'm talking about Lancelot's base, not chaos Lancelot , This is still something that is debatable.
I think Arthur, wielding all of Chaos, certainly has the potential to be the strongest because Chaos ultimately wanted to cultivate him as its perfect vessel.
Furthermore, Chaos isn't truly a magic like Hazy Moon. While Hazy Moon is undoubtedly the strongest magic, Chaos does not classify as magic—it is an entity.
It is an immortal being that cannot die. Unlike Chaos, Lancelot is mortal; therefore, he will eventually die no matter what, whereas Chaos won't
Now, Hazy Moon isn't really a "hax" ability; however, it turns Lancelot into a Dragon Ball character by making magic flow directly into his body.
As we know, magical power and physical strength are separate concepts in this universe.
Having magic flow directly into your body is a unique phenomenon that arguably only Lancelot possesses.
Characters like Escanor (with Sunshine), Gawain (with Dawn), and Meliodas (with his demonic transformation) seem to use magic to enhance their physical forms, but that is not actually the case—at least in my opinion.
What they are actually utilizing is either a specific transformation or a specialized magic that buffs their bodies.
For example:
Escanor does not have magic flowing into his body; he has "Sunshine" flowing into it.
Gawain does not have magic flowing into her body; she has "Dawn" flowing into it.
Meliodas does not have magic flowing into his body; he has "Darkness" flowing into it.
Therefore, having pure, raw magic naturally course through your body like a Dragon Ball character appears to be a unique trait exclusive to Lancelot himself.
I think Arthur, wielding all of Chaos, certainly has the potential to be the strongest because Chaos ultimately wanted to cultivate him as its perfect vessel.
Furthermore, Chaos isn't truly a magic like Hazy Moon. While Hazy Moon is undoubtedly the strongest magic, Chaos does not classify as magic—it is an entity.
It is an immortal being that cannot die. Unlike Chaos, Lancelot is mortal; therefore, he will eventually die no matter what, whereas Chaos won't
That's what I said, the discussion is between him and Chaos Lancelot. I'm only stating that Lancelot without Chaos is inferior to Chaos Arthur. The quotes about an uncertain future aren't valid. Arthur may literally not have complete Chaos with him, for whatever reason. That's the only reason that would explain why he didn't make the non-humans return. And no, there's no reason in the world that would make Arthur with full Chaos leave the situation as it is.
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@Mountain-Photo-165 you have a imagem about what Cath said in chapter 80 about chaos?
Cath says: " if i die, chaos would lose its place in the world"
That's probably what happened in the future.
Cath was killed and chaos He disappeared from the physical world, and since Merlin no longer exists, then no one could go to Chaos again, so it's 99% certain that Arthur doesn't possess the power of chaos.
So, how do we think Lancelot is going to beat Zeldris in the next chapter?
He seems unable to use any magical attacks because Zeldris keeps activating Ominous Nebula, which constantly pulls Lancelot toward him.
As we know, Lancelot only has two magical attacks: Shining Road and Waning Moon of Destruction, both of which are tracking magic under Hazy Moon.
The problem is that these techniques require him to use his spear, but he keeps getting interrupted by Ominous Nebula.
Whether Lancelot can use a different type of tracking magic that Ominous Nebula won't interrupt remains to be seen.
However, if he can't, Lancelot is left with only one choice: he's going to have to power up.
Lancelot will need to physically overcome Ominous Nebula, just like Escanor did.
He has the potential to power up the same way he did against Arthur and Nanashi, where he went from being evenly matched to completely blitzing them in physical combat.
That was a massive power up, and if Lancelot can pull off a similar feat here, I'm afraid Zeldris is in big trouble.
Because it seems like Lancelot has been fighting in Base this whole time based on his physical performance.
So, how do we think Lancelot is going to beat Zeldris in the next chapter?
He seems unable to use any magical attacks because Zeldris keeps activating Ominous Nebula, which constantly pulls Lancelot toward him.
As we know, Lancelot only has two magical attacks: Shining Road and Waning Moon of Destruction, both of which are tracking magic under Hazy Moon.
The problem is that these techniques require him to use his spear, but he keeps getting interrupted by Ominous Nebula.
Whether Lancelot can use a different type of tracking magic that Ominous Nebula won't interrupt remains to be seen.
However, if he can't, Lancelot is left with only one choice: he's going to have to power up.
Lancelot will need to physically overcome Ominous Nebula, just like Escanor did.
He has the potential to power up the same way he did against Arthur and Nanashi, where he went from being evenly matched to completely blitzing them in physical combat.
That was a massive power up, and if Lancelot can pull off a similar feat here, I'm afraid Zeldris is in big trouble.
He's holding back from letting Cath's personality take over and begs someone to kill him, even though his body is resisting that plea. He's certainly not fighting Zeldris with his full power.
Lancelot can power up , he did the same thing against Carthur and Nanashi and blitzed them after he was on par with them , his stats increases significantly.
If Lancelot is relative to Zeldris in base , I can't imagine what he'll do to him once he powers up , Zeldris is beyond cooked.
He's holding back from letting Cath's personality take over and begs someone to kill him, even though his body is resisting that plea. He's certainly not fighting Zeldris with his full power.
Lancelot resisting Cath doesn't change the fact that he is fighting with intent to kill. If it was that easy he wouldn't be destroying the realm in the first place. Lancelot also doesn't have transformations like Gawain and Tristan, he is already in that form as Chaos Lancelot(it's possible there is a second level but it obviously won't be revealed now).
He used Shining Road and is perplexed by Zeldris's attack. Zeldris too got see his abilities for the first time. Two fighters are facing each other for the first time and are revealing their abilities. Lancelot will simply have to respond in kind.
Lancelot can power up , he did the same thing against Carthur and Nanashi and blitzed them after he was on par with them , his stats increases significantly.
If Lancelot is relative to Zeldris in base , I can't imagine what he'll do to him once he powers up , Zeldris is beyond cooked.
