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5x Slyth - Vali #1304, Arrow #1194 #1305, Sam #1306, Tatsu #1311, Lumi #1323

4x Arrow - Slyth #1329, Nash #1300 #1332, Kono #1336 #1353, Dego #1356
Vali and Arrow both voted for Sty, Tatsu and Lumi too. Dego and Sam were supposed to lock on Arrow, but out of the 2 only dego did whie sam remained (a big play to hide hs mafia ties, maybe?) We can say for sure that Nat, Kono and Dego were bet on. Lynching arrow, which isn’t a green move.

I'll go to sleep now, we have time tomorrow for more debate but I will just give my initial piece here.

I already made my shortlist, i don't trust mathematics over an anonymous poll and self declared statements.

My current 4 mafias are:

1 Natasha 2 Styl 3 Sam 4 Dego

Of these 4 i consider only Dego even worth debating

Only town i could see flip are Tats, Lumi

Arrow tonight was protected by me, we needed the defuser alive for even a small chance of a comeback

See you tomorrow
Vali was sure arrow was clean because he protected him that night and it so happened that the Klaus only took 1 townie victim, which is an indicative that arrow is more likely townie than mafia Imo.

No rest for the wicked. More irl stuff just came up.

I won't be active as I promised. I leave you with the fact I gave a confirmed spy result so those of you comfortable witha 4man solve with me in it consider that you are overlooking at least 1 mafia.

I trust Sam.
I fail to find mafia in Sty's posts.
I see more town in dego than not

I don't trust Tatsu atm
I don't trust Arrow atm
I don't think Lumi's role makes too much sense to exist in a world with full vanilla townies. That jesus should have been on Snail or smthing.

I trust pom just about enough for not screwing me over

Votekill Tatsu

I will try to be back in time to lock if we pick a different route. I've set an alarm.

Tatsu Arrow Lumi +1
Nat not only voted arrow, but she also trusts Sam. I find it strange because how could she have had a result on me That was acurate? Maybe lost townie?

Among the bomb trio, I def think Sam/dego are one or both mafia, so I’m in with Vali in this, because arrow had a townie doctor backing him up.
Dego - very reluctant on Styl lynch, wanted to the last minute that arrow be the lynch of the day, unfortunately for him, more mafia or townie votes on arrow were necessary, s it was a gamble to save a teammate locking on arrow?
Sam - my beef with him is both the unclear bomb/bomb defuser situation and that he’s constantly seeking small details even if unimportant to try and shade people, the fact he still voted for Styl and not arrow does not reassure me because it could be a big mafia play to win long game. But given his tryhardness, I’d think he is more townie. So it has to be dego, right?

Kakoha- Kako’s posts were agreeable at the start of last day, but that votelock on arrow was mighty sus, so depending on what he flips, we’ll see who he was tied to through posts maybe.
Lumi - so far’s been acting green, both in behavior and even in voting, so I agree with Sam/Nat reads (just begs the quesion if they could be mafia, but, let’s not go there now)
Tatsu - Tatsu has had no presence this game at all, it makes diffcult to read, she voted for styl, but like I said with Sam, not unlikely there are mafia among Styl voters, seems like his teammates either weren’t here at DP end or decided to give him as sacrificial pawn for some reason unknown, whichever it is, Vali and arrow were the most reliable voters of that batch.
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I must say the more I read the more confused I get :notlikethis like some people look town, but their actions don’t really align. And others are a more clear cut of mafia book behavior, I guess.
 

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Vali and Arrow both voted for Sty, Tatsu and Lumi too. Dego and Sam were supposed to lock on Arrow, but out of the 2 only dego did whie sam remained (a big play to hide hs mafia ties, maybe?) We can say for sure that Nat, Kono and Dego were bet on. Lynching arrow, which isn’t a green move.
I was asleep 🗿
 

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Vali and Arrow both voted for Sty, Tatsu and Lumi too. Dego and Sam were supposed to lock on Arrow, but out of the 2 only dego did whie sam remained (a big play to hide hs mafia ties, maybe?) We can say for sure that Nat, Kono and Dego were bet on. Lynching arrow, which isn’t a green move.
I dunno why I not voted Sty, he was in my mafia list suspects after all, was a stupid move from my part fr. But got criticized for board to train votes so it kinda clouded my decision
 

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Sam - my beef with him is both the unclear bomb/bomb defuser situation and that he’s constantly seeking small details even if unimportant to try and shade people, the fact he still voted for Styl and not arrow does not reassure me because it could be a big mafia play to win long game. But given his tryhardness, I’d think he is more townie. So it has to be dego, right?
>Maf win n4 if they get a mislynch
>I correctly lynch Styl instead of mislynching Arrow
>Somehow people think I'd throw a lynch if scum to unnecessarily extend the game
What are we doing here????

>Trying to scrutinese even minute details so I don't miss anything that could hint at who is scum
>Get accused of unneccesary digging to shade
😐


Yes, it has to be dego.
Arrow: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Sam: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Dego: Bomb 0-50m

He's the odd one out
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Like even if you distrust me, where's the bomb for arrow then? There's no defuser at 0-50m so dego lied about his bomb placement
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Kakoha- Kako’s posts were agreeable at the start of last day, but that votelock on arrow was mighty sus, so depending on what he flips, we’ll see who he was tied to through posts maybe.
Kako in the context of the d4 antics and Mazi's shading of town gry and me, plus how blocker compliments scum more than town makes him red
 

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Yes, it has to be dego.
Arrow: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Sam: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Dego: Bomb 0-50m

He's the odd one out
So... if I have my bomb in 51-100m, why you don't try lynching me? It will not activate since we were in 0-50m and now 101-150m.
 

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>Maf win n4 if they get a mislynch
>I correctly lynch Styl instead of mislynching Arrow
>Somehow people think I'd throw a lynch if scum to unnecessarily extend the game
What are we doing here????

>Trying to scrutinese even minute details so I don't miss anything that could hint at who is scum
>Get accused of unneccesary digging to shade
😐


Yes, it has to be dego.
Arrow: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Sam: Bomb defuser 51-100m
Dego: Bomb 0-50m

He's the odd one out
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Like even if you distrust me, where's the bomb for arrow then? There's no defuser at 0-50m so dego lied about his bomb placement
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Kako in the context of the d4 antics and Mazi's shading of town gry and me, plus how blocker compliments scum more than town makes him red
The only part I find odd in Kakoblocker scum is: would they really give mafia 2 escort with an event (like if Kako is one, then mafia gets the escort event, this means they have 2 blockers, isn’t that too powerful?), but maybe because it’s chance the probability just isn’t there in favor of mafia?
 

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Tatsu:
- Day 1 voted Mazi
- Day 2 voted Shino
- Day 3 voted Snail
- Day 4 voted Slyth

Pom:
- Day 1 voted Natasha
- Day 2 voted Shino
- Day 3 voted Snail
- Day 4 voted Sam

*sigh*

I need to do that blue suit lawyer turnaround with my thinking to nut this conundrum out.
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So... if I have my bomb in 51-100m, why you don't try lynching me? It will not activate since we were in 0-50m and now 101-150m.
Because as mafia bomb you probably have multiple bombs
 

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If Kako is T!Blocker then:

- Nash is spy
- Arrow is scum
- Dego is... legit?
- Lumi is legit
- Tatsu is scum?
- Pom is scum?

If Kako is M!Blocker:
- Nash is spy
- Arrow is legit
- Dego is m!bomb
- Lumi is legit
- One of Pom or Tatsu is scum
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What am I missing here
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Ah yeah, Penis White
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I must say the more I read the more confused I get :notlikethis like some people look town, but their actions don’t really align. And others are a more clear cut of mafia book behavior, I guess.
As your husband would say, "Sam will play like Sam and once you accept that you can achieve peace in your life"
 

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If Kako is T!Blocker then:

- Nash is spy
- Arrow is scum
- Dego is... legit?
- Lumi is legit
- Tatsu is scum?
- Pom is scum?

If Kako is M!Blocker:
- Nash is spy
- Arrow is legit
- Dego is m!bomb
- Lumi is legit
- One of Pom or Tatsu is scum
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What am I missing here
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Ah yeah, Penis White
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As your husband would say, "Sam will play like Sam and once you accept that you can achieve peace in your life"
Look at who voted me yesterday. The game would end if tatsu pom lumi were scums. Moreover, there is no way i can be framed as red so i dont really see why you now discussing these things. Just enough people should lock kakoha and we will have only 2 mafia left, and it will be very easy to deal with.

Look at their discussions about me right before day end in D4. I am repeating, we have a definitive mafia that so openly targets me and you are focusing on mostly green people.
If you really cant do otherwise than these elaborations, please start from Klauspan event, check everyones alignments and votes. There is nothing to rack your brain this much.
 

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Ok, Votelock Kakoha

We really need to see his escort self flip and then go from there
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As your husband would say, "Sam will play like Sam and once you accept that you can achieve peace in your life"
Maybe I should listen to Gry’s bar wisdom
 

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plus how blocker compliments scum more
actually how ?? I still don't understand in what setting blocker is more scum
I'm the only town blocker and if I was mafia blocker, I would have claimed something else entirely because there would probably an actual town blocker
 

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So... if I have my bomb in 51-100m, why you don't try lynching me? It will not activate since we were in 0-50m and now 101-150m.
I saw dego take no action n2 at 0-50.
Just a reminder for peeps in the future looking for safe lynch depths.

The game would end if tatsu pom lumi were scums.
I was the oppening for mafia to win yesterday. However, when I locked you, Tatsu was already locked, meaning mafia took a gamble on Lumi or Pom joining them and it didn't work out.

Sorry for that, again.
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P.S. whoever has hider should consdier not hiding.

We're 5v2 after this lynch. A mafia hitting a double kill puts us as 3v2 so any sickly or noble 150-200 opens a victory line for then.
 

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Wew lad why did I get fucking reamed with notifications while I was at dinner?

Catching up now
 
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