Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[Strange]

But those are direct descendants from Arie Hon. Your point only holds if and only if entering ToG means leaving your body behind and be a hologramic / shinsooic thing, as if Digimon, but if someone can get out, that is ruled out as you may guess.

NO it doesn't .

it has nothing to diwt simulation or hologramic or fake things

The only real beings in this tower are "Shining ones, Penmtainum, Mecseth, Urek, Gws,Baam, Rachel, and Maybe guardians aren't fake and that's BIG IF (eception could be Hedon ) " rest are fake beings 100% .
It has nothing to do with hologramic or holographic or things like that or simulation even .

ITs just reality.
Son of arie means nothing (Unless like i have said Only exceptions are Childrens of irregulars) and i gave you examples that Rue is literally shinsoo yet you dont accept that ?


Leaving body ? in what sense ? urek is physically there (yet i doubt that urek is a physical being ) Cuz the guy is a pure light .

That's why i have said exclusively that only towerborns are fake not Irregulars, tower is a building not a reality not a game nothing like that , GWs Urek and all the rest give us perfect ideas that Towerborns are FAke non-existent entitites cuz they are all shinsoo . why do you think Towerborn cannot even breath when there is no shinsoo ? Remember FOD ? When Red thryssa had taken shinsoo ? he was completely fine yet rest shinsoo beings started dying ? cuz they are shinsoo and the moment shinsoo vanishes they just die ...

 

[arrowofsky]

NO it doesn't .

it has nothing to diwt simulation or hologramic or fake things

The only real beings in this tower are "Shining ones, Penmtainum, Mecseth, Urek, Gws,Baam, Rachel, and Maybe guardians aren't fake and that's BIG IF (eception could be Hedon ) " rest are fake beings 100% .
It has nothing to do with hologramic or holographic or things like that or simulation even .

ITs just reality Son of arie means nothing (Unless like i have said Only exceptions are Childrens of irregulars) and i gave you examples that Rue is literally shinsoo yet you dont accept that ?


Leaving body ? in what sense ? urek is physically there (yet i doubt that urek is a physical being ) Cuz the guy is a pure light .

That's why i have said exclusively that only towerborns are fake not Irregulars, tower is a building not a reality not a game nothing like that , GWs Urek and all the rest give us perfect ideas that Towerborns are FAke non-existent entitites cuz they are all shinsoo . why do you think Towerborn cannot even breath when there is no shinsoo ? Remember FOD ? When Red thryssa had taken shinsoo ? he was completely fine yet rest shinsoo beings started dying ? cuz they are shinsoo and the moment shinsoo vanishes they just die ...

I know what you said man but think of it this way to understand my case =>

A male GW and a female towerborn => if the result is completely unreal shinsoo being, how the sperm of male is used?
etc. so you can guess where I am going with this approach and we know SIU does not complicate things like that.
Rue example is not what I am talking about. Gustang also created a lot of flesh and blood and probably reproductive beings like Tiara, Richemond and he then just proceed to dismantle their existence with a single touch. But those were actually fully shinsoo, not like a direct descendant. A GW provides half of the genetic material but since the intercoursed being is shinsoo from tower, you say that it zeros the reality and it is just nothing now. I am not sure about that, but I don't see a direct evidence or counterevidence to this topic either.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I know what you said man but think of it this way to understand my case =>

A male GW and a female towerborn => if the result is completely unreal shinsoo being, how the sperm of male is used?
etc. so you can guess where I am going with this approach and we know SIU does not complicate things like that.
Rue example is not what I am talking about. Gustang also created a lot of flesh and blood and probably reproductive beings like Tiara, Richemond and he then just proceed to dismantle their existence with a single touch. But those were actually fully shinsoo, not like a direct descendant. A GW provides half of the genetic material but since the intercoursed being is shinsoo from tower, you say that it zeros the reality and it is just nothing now. I am not sure about that, but I don't see a direct evidence or counterevidence to this topic either.

I think a point to consider is, it took Baam being killed, taken out of the Tower and then rebuilt by the Outside god imbued with some of his powers for him to become an Irregular and a real human being.

Plus Destiny shenanigans as well.

So considering all those steps taken, I think it's correct to say that even Enne being called a Towerborn isn't really a mistake regardless of her coming from two Irregulars,or it might be more accurate to say she's the only half real person despite having two irregulars as Parents.

We've known for the longest time that the Tower only creates mimicks of the real thing, hence why it doesn't even have a real star in there or a real sky.


Only true beings created from it as I see things now are the Administrators, especially Hedon for example.

 

[Strange]

I know what you said man but think of it this way to understand my case =>

A male GW and a female towerborn => if the result is completely unreal shinsoo being, how the sperm of male is used?
etc. so you can guess where I am going with this approach and we know SIU does not complicate things like that.
Rue example is not what I am talking about. Gustang also created a lot of flesh and blood and probably reproductive beings like Tiara, Richemond and he then just proceed to dismantle their existence with a single touch. But those were actually fully shinsoo, not like a direct descendant. A GW provides half of the genetic material but since the intercoursed being is shinsoo from tower, you say that it zeros the reality and it is just nothing now. I am not sure about that, but I don't see a direct evidence or counterevidence to this topic either.

A male GW and a female towerborn => if the result is completely unreal shinsoo being, how the sperm of male is used? towerbonr is the one who bears it thus shinsoo makes a being , you may call that a hybrid .

Gustang wants to free enne and doesn't consider enne as fake could only mean that if both parents are irregulars then a being could be conisdered half-fake that someway can be ressurected maybe and baams parents were both irregulars also .

Gustang doesn't care anyone but enne , one day everyone in this tower will simply die cuz there will be no shinsoo unless this entire tower is shinsoo itself which i think it is .

"The moment someone dies they dont rotten-away " and we have seen many who died yet not immediately they started rotting and if such thing even happens at all , and when someone dies and shinsoo wont take that person , that someone may be taken outside easily .

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Another part I failed to consider is that it seems even the Great warriors have become properties of the Tower as Traumerei simply just returned to Shinsoo just like the rest of the Towerborns when they die.

That Immortality contract genuinely might be more fucked up than we think in terms of repercussions or at least what the Tower was doing to them.

Urek and Baam might be the only pure and untouched entities left in there, plus the Shinies as well.

 

[arrowofsky]

I am more inclined on Ray's way of thinking here, otherwise things are complicated way too much.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I am more inclined on Ray's way of thinking here, otherwise things are complicated way too much.

Yeah I can understand that.


Honestly, it's all just a matter of time as with most things now I guess .

 

[arrowofsky]

@Ray Barracuda it feels weird to agree with you xD

 

[Strange]

That Immortality contract genuinely might be more fucked up than we think in terms of repercussions or at least what the Tower was doing to them.

Could be the case , and it makes perfect sense why V never accepted it

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@Ray Barracuda it feels weird to agree with you xD

 

[Ray Barracuda]

@Ray Barracuda it feels weird to agree with you xD

Don't get used to it

 

[seNzor1337]

Oh, so when V died he DIDN'T return to the shinsoo. Perhaps, in order to make things work and bring Bam about the way he is now, V had to take his own life in some sort of ritual/spell that binds his soul to the body of his child. This is getting very elaborate indeed. Zahard couldn't graps the trickery at play here because it dwarfs his understanding. I guess OG's involvement is to blame since they are a superior being.
However it is worth remembering Rachels words to Bam, when she told him about Arlene calling him a monster. OG values Bam more than his parents do in the scheme of things. I guess it was also hard for V and Arlene to see Bam as their son, given the fact that their real son had been killed already.
I can't really blame V and Arlene in a way, even if they do come off as scumbags in this scenario.Bam however is pure indeed

 

[maverickframe_19]

V - Minato
Arlene - Kushina
Baam - Naruto
Zahard - Obito
Zahard's Monster - Madara
Administrators - 10 tails
Phanta - Kaguya
Outside God - OG Otsuski

LOL

 

[Sky is blue]

I'd say because it's not like you can just stumble into them. Spells have been given a variety of framings by a variety of people (urek calls them cheating, others call them an exploit of the tower's rules) but we actually do know where they come from. Spells require a sorcerer to cast it but also a higher being to grant it. The only instance of a higher being we have seen so far is the demon Hoaquin made a deal with to be able to devour and burn souls for power. I think a couple people have actually found books and learned spells without the higher being being addressed but that doesn't mean the being doesn't exist. In ToG learning spells isn't like going to Hogwarts, you need a deity/demon like entity on speed dial.

Arlene was probably using OG as higher being for her spells probably