Chapter Fairy Tail: 100YQ Chapter 222 Discussion

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It just said that they tried to fight him, Animus and even Zirconis also tried to fight him, at the time they fought him they were literally at their GMG power level and their magical power wasn't even spriggan level according to spriggan hype. And quit the arbitrary assumptions of power growth, Mashima himself said he is avoiding power inflation and i have to read this kind of stuff :epicfacepalm

BRANDISH was treated as relevant in this same arc, even if he was regular spriggan level this would already cook you
I don’t know how you have the mental space to discuss FT while our country is in the throes of full-blown political psychosis.
 

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LOL you either don't know math or is just playing dumb to push Mira agenda. Hoteye is equal to Laxus now lmao :yodawg . I even explained that 2 x 2 is 4 and 2 x 10 is 20, despite both cases having 2 as THE EXACT SAME MULTIPLIER.



Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc ? Was Lucy abilities that destroyed the lacrima or it was only possible BECAUSE OF A DRAGON BODY.
What are you even talking about? Lucy was gigantified by Brandish.

Also Richard did nothing like what Mira did i.e. hurt Levia and Scissor runner and tank 2 attacks from Scissor Runner with Laxus.


Prove that they are identicals. CBs don't have all equals statement like spriggans. You can cry as much as you want, without all equals statement you have nothing
Can't you use spoiler tags?

Prove they aren't equal. Not one of them is called the strongest like the spriggans so...


Complain with Mira own words
Complain with Mashima's panels & statements.








You use arguments that would equalize Hoteye to Laxus and i'm the disingenuous one you clown. You speak of generic statement that mean nothing, overwank feats based on your agenda and call it a day.
No I don't. Prove it. What did I say Mira did/showed that was also the case for Hoteye?

And you ignore Mira admission of inferiority to Jura. Something very specific and bot generic
Meanwhile in 100 years quest, the same Erza who couldn't beat Jura tied with Laxus who actually beat him. What are you on?
Do you still believe Jura is on Gildarts' level too? It has clearly been changed since Mira was hyped by Natsu to be similar to Jellal and Laxus who beat and almost beat Jura.




Mira said that if the fight continued she don't know if she could win, and she already had access to Allegria, so cope harder.
Mira was already injured and exhausted in BASE so you cope harder.
Erza with benizakura and her clear heart form couldn't beat Kyria and still went on to tie with Laxus.


Precisely, God Serena> Scissor Runner and Anchor. It's not because it's a new enemy that i'm gonna overwank the fraud.
Are you serious? So God Serena can do worse than this to Laxus? Gotcha.




Erza just got stronger she didn't break the scaling lmao. Jura statement is outdated, but you are only using outdated statement and claiming that it's her portrayal, so Jura statement is also part of her portrayal, accept it, she was never equal to Laxus and Jellal, she was only equal to Erza but Erza got stronger than her, and i would say since GMG as Mira didn't knew about her second origin when she made the Jura statement. Erza was a challenge but even her wasn't Laxus and Mystogan level, Mystogan just dismiss Laxus for calling Erza weak, he didn't try to push her to their level like the anime does.

Most recent statements have her on their level. You are so biased it's not even funny. Erza and Mira were strong enough to challenge Laxus along with Mystogan, Gildarts was the strongest while Mystogan and Laxus were dead equals. Laxus was underestimating Erza as Mytogan, Makarov and Happy disagreed with this. In the GMG both were below Jura unlike Laxus BUT no one knew if Laxus could've actually won since Makarov doubted him THEN in 100 years quest Erza AND Mira came up again with Erza drawing with Laxus in the same arc Natsu compared Mira to Laxus directly. Natsu was equally excited to fight Mira as he was to fight Laxus.


Then we have Tenrou where Laxus outperformed Erza, then we have Gray in post timeskip saying that Gildarts AND Laxus as the guild members who didn't suffer from 7 years powercreep, i do not see Mirajane name here.
You see Mira's name here though.



Do you how a statement show parity?




Here, these are true parity statements Ajeel have equal MP to Brandish and Kirin has equal MP to Gildarts. This is parity, not a list of the strongest fairy tail mages. It's too much to ask for this level of specification?

And the two dragons used a roar. Base Laxus is weaker than Levia so of course he would get damaged.
Again, you keep ignoring the most recent statement.



Laxus has elexion's soul and has powered up from before he fought Kirin. Laxus doesn't have a defensive form since red lightning is offensive. He got damaged from Scissor runner too so...


Lmao, like if fighting Skullion is not a 100YQ feat of Mira. And which hype she got? You just cling to a list of strongest FT mages without any specification. Complain with Mira own words about Skullion.
What are you even talking about? Erza couldn't even beat Kyria with her peak offensive form from original manga and you're using Mira tying with Kyria's leader in BSS as an anti-feat?

She is currently matching Laxus' defense and has injured two CB's to save Laxus himself. You are so biased it's not even logical. You keep chanting Skullion like a prayer when the author gave you 2 fights in 2 later arcs with Mirajane.


Yes, i'm gonna put it clear, Scissor Runner is weaker because he was Mira's opponent. Prove me wrong without generic statements, i already showed examples of valid specific statements. And note that i did not said that Scissor Runner is weaker than Mira, he is not, you are clinging to a Mira feat that don't even puts her above Scissor Runner lmao.
Tsk tsk... no you don't. You need to prove he's the weakest and now he's Laxus' opponent too and Levia's Mira's opponent as well so are you saying Laxus' opponent is the weakest?



LOL you have been using old Mira statements but for those statements the story did not advanced, your double standards are hilarious. I put Jura statement as bait that you bite :gigglebunny I'm not saying she didn't got stronger, i'm saying that the power hierarchy did not changed FOR MIRA. Not assuming arbitrary power growths is strange now?
What are you talking about? The ORIGINAL power scaling had Mystogan, Mira and Erza competing with Laxus for the spot under Gildarts. Even if Laxus/Jellal were superior in GMG and Alvarez, Erza and Mira have continued to surge back to match them. This is why RECENT STATEMENTS are showing Natsu comparing Mira to Jellal/Laxus and Mashima saying Erza and Laxus are about equal and the original power scaling hasn't changed much. Then you have the feat of Erza tying with Laxus and now Mira and Laxus taking on 2 dragons together and mirroring one another's feats.

Jellal wasn't even present, if Erza got motivated by Jellal it's still by her own merit, if Mira gets motivated by her siblings the feat she gets is from her own merit too. Without Elfman Mira was done, Erza defeated Kyouka alone. She mid diffed Kyria in her rematch anyway, what's the point? Just pointing that Erza became Laxus level ending the rivalry with Mira for once and for all. Kyria hax can work on Laxus too, but he can still physically fodderize her without that.
She woke up hearing him call out. Nice try. Mira gave up to save her sister. Erza got help from the guild to beat Azuma after he struck her with their power.

It was still Mira going beyond her takeover limits to call Elfman just as Erza went beyond her limits and her willpower allowed her to use a 6th sense to hit Kyoka. It was a mirrored win.

Erza needed a new enchanted sword to overpower Kyria. Benizakura and clear heart were matched and outclassed on her 2ND TRY
Mira faced Skullion, who is Kyria's stronger leader, ONE TIME and tied with her weakest form.

You are acting like if Elfman won't ruin next chapters for Laxus and Mira fans.
Why would he? Erza couldn't beat a CB without dragonized earth power being there so why would I be mad that Laxus and Mira can't beat 2 and need Elfman to help out?



Should i assume that Meredy is equal to Azuma when Meredy was Juvia's opponent and Azuma was Erza's opponent? Should i assume that Ezel is equal to Kyouka when Ezel is Wendy's opponent and Kyouka's Erza opponent? No, because Juvia and Wendy are not equals to Erza, it's the same logic. After Skullion Mira can't be equal to Erza without a solid power up, be real.

You convinced me, Lucy is stronger than Merc and Erza is stronger than Acno :umad

You are the master of false equivalences. Azuma was hyped by Mira and Erza are very strong outside of feats. Kyoka is the leader under Mard Geer and Seilah is her right hand.

The CBs have no ranking showing 1 is stronger than the other and no leader among them. Laxus and Mira are also sharing 2 dragons and these 2 dragons have been a team since GMG.

Instead of accepting the fact that Mira is showing Laxus/Erza like feats you are bending over backwards to find a weakest CB out of nowhere.

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE

Also please use spoiler tags. Your posts are wrong enough already, at least make it easy on the eyes. 😉
 
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I don’t know how you have the mental space to discuss FT while our country is in the throes of full-blown political psychosis.
We live in a cursed place, there is nothing more to do in this hellish second turn. I already did my part and was politically conscious in the first turn, now i will just maintain my coherence and let the idolaters kill each other and distract myself with other things. At this point i prefer Mira and even fraudnarios stans than the idolaters

What are you even talking about? Lucy was gigantified by Brandish.

Also Richard did nothing like what Mira did i.e. hurt Levia and Scissor runner and tank 2 attacks from Scissor Runner with Laxus.
So What? Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc now? Where are the people who gave Merc hundred excuses?

Still the exact same buff, i'm just using your logic

Prove they aren't equal. Not one of them is called the strongest like the spriggans so...
You are inverting the burden of proof. You are the one claiming that they are equals without a statement. Neither Seven Kins of purgatory nor 9 demon gates had a nominal strongest member and their strength varies a lot. Wanna know what? I'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira just because she is fighting Anchor.

And none of this panels show any statement, you are making posing scaling again? So i will equalize the entire Team Natsu, Wendy is equal to Erza now, she even made a team up with her multiple times, they must be equals:umad Someone tell @WoWfan that he was right, Wendy was a top tier all along, we just need to do a posing scaling with her and Erza.

And Mashima said the status quo didn't changed MUCH. It changed for Erza but not for Mira who was weaker than Laxus back at GMG.

No I don't. Prove it. What did I say Mira did/showed that was also the case for Hoteye?
Your criteria was EXACT SAME BUFF. Wanna use feats now? Great, so Skullion scaling for both.

Meanwhile in 100 years quest, the same Erza who couldn't beat Jura tied with Laxus who actually beat him. What are you on?
Do you still believe Jura is on Gildarts' level too? It has clearly been changed since Mira was hyped by Natsu to be similar to Jellal and Laxus who beat and almost beat Jura.
Most recent statements have her on their level. You are so biased it's not even funny. Erza and Mira were strong enough to challenge Laxus along with Mystogan, Gildarts was the strongest while Mystogan and Laxus were dead equals. Laxus was underestimating Erza as Mytogan, Makarov and Happy disagreed with this. In the GMG both were below Jura unlike Laxus BUT no one knew if Laxus could've actually won since Makarov doubted him THEN in 100 years quest Erza AND Mira came up again with Erza drawing with Laxus in the same arc Natsu compared Mira to Laxus directly. Natsu was equally excited to fight Mira as he was to fight Laxus.

Erza did NOT MIRA. I'm saying that she remains WEAKER THAN LAXUS. I quit using generic statements to prove your agenda because it don't do that. Just look at the Gildarts and Laxus statement about the 7 years powercreep, Gildarts was a whole tier above Laxus, they weren't equals, GMG Laxus extreme diffed the Gildarts level Jura, so pre-timeskip Laxus was solidly weaker, these statements don't equalize anyone. And even Gajeel was mentioned in one of them, you are conveniently ignoring the Gajeel or just biasedly saying he has feats below them WHEN MIRA ALSO HAS FEATS BELOW THEM.

Mystogan just disagreed that she was weak, not that she was not on their level like in the anime. Makarov just thought she had chance of beating him like Natsu who was still considered to be solidly below Laxus, even Erza considered Natsu to be on her level. And do you think Natsu being excited to fight Mira nullifies her own admission of inferiority? That's your problem, you use meaningless statements to invalidate solid feats and statements. He was also excited to fight Gajeel you biased clown.

Mira was already injured and exhausted in BASE so you cope harder.
Erza with benizakura and her clear heart form couldn't beat Kyria and still went on to tie with Laxus.


Are you serious? So God Serena can do worse than this to Laxus? Gotcha.
Her Allegria is a trump card, cope harder
Laxus fodderized Kyria right before the fight lmao

Laxus has elexion's soul and has powered up from before he fought Kirin. Laxus doesn't have a defensive form since red lightning is offensive. He got damaged from Scissor runner too so...
It's just base Laxus, God Serena was stronger than his normal Red Lightning. Even if his base is stronger now it shouldn't be stronger than the original RL.

Tsk tsk... no you don't. You need to prove he's the weakest and now he's Laxus' opponent too and Levia's Mira's opponent as well so are you saying Laxus' opponent is the weakest?
It's a team fight, Raj is not equal to Wed just because o a team fight. If it was Anchor in Levia's place and Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying any equality with teeth and nails. And don't say that a duo is different, i already mentioned Torafuzar and Tempester. Heck till this date nobody equalizes the 2 grimmoire heart minions, people always consider the chicken the weaker one because his magic is lame af.

What are you talking about? The ORIGINAL power scaling had Mystogan, Mira and Erza competing with Laxus for the spot under Gildarts. Even if Laxus/Jellal were superior in GMG and Alvarez, Erza and Mira have continued to surge back to match them. This is why RECENT STATEMENTS are showing Natsu comparing Mira to Jellal/Laxus and Mashima saying Erza and Laxus are about equal and the original power scaling hasn't changed much. Then you have the feat of Erza tying with Laxus and now Mira and Laxus taking on 2 dragons together and mirroring one another's feats.
Again, Erza did but not Mira. You need to overwank a dragon that Mira didn't even defeated to push your agenda. Those aren't comparisons, they just listed the strongest FT members just like they listed Gajeel too before. I challenge you to show a SPECIFIC comparison betwen Mira with either Laxus, Jellal or Gildarts. And i'm talking as specific as a spriggan equalization or a BDSK true comparison to Gildarts. You just show generic statements that could be used even with Gajeel.

Mira faced Skullion, who is Kyria's stronger leader, ONE TIME and tied with her weakest form.
And Skullion was fodderized by BASE LAXUS while Erza stalemated RL Laxus, this one you just lost.

Why would he? Erza couldn't beat a CB without dragonized earth power being there so why would I be mad that Laxus and Mira can't beat 2 and need Elfman to help out?
Am i the one writing this mess? Reread the chapter, they are setting up things for Elfman, it's egregious writing but it's how things are.

You are the master of false equivalences. Azuma was hyped by Mira and Erza are very strong outside of feats. Kyoka is the leader under Mard Geer and Seilah is her right hand.

The CBs have no ranking showing 1 is stronger than the other and no leader among them. Laxus and Mira are also sharing 2 dragons and these 2 dragons have been a team since GMG.

Instead of accepting the fact that Mira is showing Laxus/Erza like feats you are bending over backwards to find a weakest CB out of nowhere.

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE
You equalize dragons without any basis and one say that I'M the master of false equivalency. You are so biased that you don't even mentioned ANCHOR.

7 Kins and 9 demon gates also have no official n1. This is being worse than the whole fraudnario stuff, you are creating implications without even statements, if it was Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying all of this.

Out of nowhere? He is literally the least relevant dragon, he has no screen time and is fighting Skullion's equal.

ADD JUVIA AND ANCHOR

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE
juvia-ANCHOR

Juvia is equal to Mirajane now, change my mind. And don't say that Juvia is getting Gray support, Mira got Elfman, Hotete and Angel support all this time, and the one who is gonna finish this dragons is Elfman to make them look bad.
 

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Personally I think the best feat that Mira got was the attacked she tanked along side Laxus. Which shows she at least has good durability
 

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Regarding the chapter, it would suck if Laxus never got to beat a dragon despite being a dragon slayer. Someone besides Natsu needs too.
Well it's more likely that this will not happen because real dragon slayer are not important anymore (bar Natsu).
Mashima doesn't even use Elefseria a guy who defeated a DG. Or Athena the DS weapon. Or Diabolos the DS guild :emocat:catshrug

Imagine a Arc full with dragons as enemies and those who will defeat them are all non dragon slayer characters :wtf:datass

It's sad but this is what probably will be the case. If Mashima or the publisher would care about the dragon slayers we would get battles like Laxus and Kirin vs Levia or Erza, Mira and Misaki vs Motherglare, etc instead of the battles we have now.
 

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So What? Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc now? Where are the people who gave Merc hundred excuses?

Still the exact same buff, i'm just using your logic



You are inverting the burden of proof. You are the one claiming that they are equals without a statement. Neither Seven Kins of purgatory nor 9 demon gates had a nominal strongest member and their strength varies a lot. Wanna know what? I'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira just because she is fighting Anchor.

And none of this panels show any statement, you are making posing scaling again? So i will equalize the entire Team Natsu, Wendy is equal to Erza now, she even made a team up with her multiple times, they must be equals:umad Someone tell @WoWfan that he was right, Wendy was a top tier all along, we just need to do a posing scaling with her and Erza.

And Mashima said the status quo didn't changed MUCH. It changed for Erza but not for Mira who was weaker than Laxus back at GMG.
LMAO! The burden of proof is on you to prove Levia is stronger than Scissor Runner. There is no feat or hype showing one is superior and Laxus is fighting both of them so the go to excuse that Erza/Laxus' enemy is stronger flew out the window. Mira also injured Levia, Laxus' opponent, and saved Laxus from his magic drain so...


Your criteria was EXACT SAME BUFF. Wanna use feats now? Great, so Skullion scaling for both.
Richard isn't fighting a dragon right now, isn't S Class, isn't hurting Laxus' dragon, isn't tanking stuff with Laxus and isn't saving Laxus. So yeah Mira has the same buff as Laxus and Erza and is damaging 2 dragons at once and tanking everything Laxus is. That's a comparable feat to Erza slashing Motherglare or Laxus matching Levia's punch, if not better.


Erza did NOT MIRA. I'm saying that she remains WEAKER THAN LAXUS. I quit using generic statements to prove your agenda because it don't do that. Just look at the Gildarts and Laxus statement about the 7 years powercreep, Gildarts was a whole tier above Laxus, they weren't equals, GMG Laxus extreme diffed the Gildarts level Jura, so pre-timeskip Laxus was solidly weaker, these statements don't equalize anyone. And even Gajeel was mentioned in one of them, you are conveniently ignoring the Gajeel or just biasedly saying he has feats below them WHEN MIRA ALSO HAS FEATS BELOW THEM.

Mystogan just disagreed that she was weak, not that she was not on their level like in the anime. Makarov just thought she had chance of beating him like Natsu who was still considered to be solidly below Laxus, even Erza considered Natsu to be on her level. And do you think Natsu being excited to fight Mira nullifies her own admission of inferiority? That's your problem, you use meaningless statements to invalidate solid feats and statements. He was also excited to fight Gajeel you biased clown.
LMAO! Meanwhile in canon. Mira got hyped as Laxus/Jellal tier by Natsu and is facing the same dragons Laxus is and is tanking the same moves Laxus is in the same conditions.


Her Allegria is a trump card, cope harder
Laxus fodderized Kyria right before the fight lmao
Elexion's soul is Laxus' trump card, cope harder. Outside of a lightning dragon king red lightning attack he has no special form to compare to alegria like you all are implying. He's not erza who transforms and Mira also just used physical power, no magical attack like red lightning.


It's just base Laxus, God Serena was stronger than his normal Red Lightning. Even if his base is stronger now it shouldn't be stronger than the original RL.
There is only base Laxus for defending. Like??? Red lightning is an attack not a shield and it's powered up when he's hurt. Elexion's Soul is his power source so this base Laxus is Laxus at peak strength tanking. He doesn't tank with red lightning.


It's a team fight, Raj is not equal to Wed just because o a team fight. If it was Anchor in Levia's place and Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying any equality with teeth and nails. And don't say that a duo is different, i already mentioned Torafuzar and Tempester. Heck till this date nobody equalizes the 2 grimmoire heart minions, people always consider the chicken the weaker one because his magic is lame af.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Juvia isn't here it's Miraxus.

Also Juvia's magic counters Anchors unlike Mira/Laxus/Erza with their dragons. Talk to me when Scissor Runner is a DEMON DRAGON and Mira can take him over.


Again, Erza did but not Mira. You need to overwank a dragon that Mira didn't even defeated to push your agenda. Those aren't comparisons, they just listed the strongest FT members just like they listed Gajeel too before. I challenge you to show a SPECIFIC comparison betwen Mira with either Laxus, Jellal or Gildarts. And i'm talking as specific as a spriggan equalization or a BDSK true comparison to Gildarts. You just show generic statements that could be used even with Gajeel.
Lmao I already showed you Mira tanking the moves Laxus tanked and hurting 2 dragons at once; Satan Soul Mira drawing with Skullion while Clear heart Erza with Benizakura was outclassed by Kyria. You're are willfully ignorant.

And Skullion was fodderized by BASE LAXUS while Erza stalemated RL Laxus, this one you just lost.
BASE Mira is fodderized by HALPHAS MIRA 😉


Am i the one writing this mess? Reread the chapter, they are setting up things for Elfman, it's egregious writing but it's how things are.
Who are you to say what's going to happen? Elfman is likely going to help them then Laxus and Mira get back in.


You equalize dragons without any basis and one say that I'M the master of false equivalency. You are so biased that you don't even mentioned ANCHOR.
Why would I mention anchor when he beat Gray and Juvia together without Wendy's boost on them?

You separate them because you are biased. Nothing so far gives a strongest CB like we has a strongest spriggan. By you guys' logic no character can ever prove they're strong because you'd always rank their enemies as weak. Again SCALING BACKWARDS.


7 Kins and 9 demon gates also have no official n1. This is being worse than the whole fraudnario stuff, you are creating implications without even statements, if it was Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying all of this.


Out of nowhere? He is literally the least relevant dragon, he has no screen time and is fighting Skullion's equal. [/QUOTE]


Prove that Scissor Runner is weaker than Levia. Like it or not Scissor Runner is now Laxus' opponent too so deal with it.


ADD JUVIA AND ANCHOR

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE
juvia-ANCHOR

Juvia is equal to Mirajane now, change my mind. And don't say that Juvia is getting Gray support, Mira got Elfman, Hotete and Angel support all this time, and the one who is gonna finish this dragons is Elfman to make them look bad.

Then she's Laxus' equal too then. 😉
Idk why you're bringing up Juvia, her and Gray worked together without Wendy's enchantment and lost, to likely come back. Mira and Laxus with Wendy's power hurt CBs and tanked their moves, together.

Elfman, Richard and Sorano did nothing to Scissor Runner and you know that. This is why Elfman is in base. Mira is the one who threw him so hard from a great distance that he spun uncontrollably in the air and then crashed into Levia, this saving Laxus. Mira is the one, with Laxus who took 2 of Scissor Runner's attacks to protect Elfman.
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Personally I think the best feat that Mira got was the attacked she tanked along side Laxus. Which shows she at least has good durability
Her offense was also highlighted since she hurt 2 dragons in the process. We can even compare it to Laxus/Erza hurting CBs.
 

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If Scissor Runner was the much weaker dragon then why didn’t Laxus tank Scissor Runner’s attacks with ease?

Lets look at the facts Mirajane’s dragon still dropped Laxus and her so it clearly wasn’t that weak and more than enough to damage them in a significant way.
 

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On a side note this chapter has really proven that the fandom is disingenuous. We talk about feats mattering but when we get feats, it's time to diminish the enemy.

It was never about Mirajane getting feats, as was claimed. They all believed she never would so they kept that as the argument. Now Mira has feats with the other S Class in these fights and it's well her dragon is the weakest lmao even though her and Laxus have feats on each other's dragons.
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If Scissor Runner was the much weaker dragon then why didn’t Laxus tank Scissor Runner’s attacks with ease?

Lets look at the facts Mirajane’s dragon still dropped Laxus and her so it clearly wasn’t that weak and more than enough to damage them in a significant way.
They are literally sharing dragons and they're still trying to claim ERZA/LAXUS' dragons are stronger lmao!
Um... Scissor Runner is hitting Laxus and Mira hurt Levia with her throw so...
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Had Erza/Laxus threw/punched/kicked one dragon from a great distance and it crashed into another, saving ERZA/LAXUS in the process it would be a feat but because it's Mira it's crickets.
 

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I am guessing that Elfman will be the one to turn the tide for FT against these Dragons.
 

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Her offense was also highlighted since she hurt 2 dragons in the process. We can even compare it to Laxus/Erza hurting CBs.
She did throw a dragon but we don’t know what happened before that
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On a side note this chapter has really proven that the fandom is disingenuous. We talk about feats mattering but when we get feats, it's time to diminish the enemy.

It was never about Mirajane getting feats, as was claimed. They all believed she never would so they kept that as the argument. Now Mira has feats with the other S Class in these fights and it's well her dragon is the weakest lmao even though her and Laxus have feats on each other's dragons.
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They are literally sharing dragons and they're still trying to claim ERZA/LAXUS' dragons are stronger lmao!
Um... Scissor Runner is hitting Laxus and Mira hurt Levia with her throw so...
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Had Erza/Laxus threw/punched/kicked one dragon from a great distance and it crashed into another, saving ERZA/LAXUS in the process it would be a feat but because it's Mira it's crickets.
I don’t care about feat as much as most people do because it’s not always reliable
 

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I am guessing that Elfman will be the one to turn the tide for FT against these Dragons.
It seems he is playing the role of Erza's dragonized earth for Laxus and Mira to get their win over a CB since even with Wendy's help Erza wasn't able to beat Motherglare.
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She did throw a dragon but we don’t know what happened before that
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I don’t care about feat as much as most people do because it’s not always reliable
It would still be a feat in terms of her physical strength and the damage she inflicted on both dragons. Scissor Runner being shocked is proof of her performance and it's Mashima using him to say it's Mira's feat and a good one at that.
 
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Wish Mira's fight hadn't been off screened, but at this point I'm more than happy for more members of the guild to be brought back into relevant roles in these fights. Maybe would have been better to have teams vs dragons (i.e. Laxus + Mira + Elfman) and I do like when we get unusual pairings, but it is what it is. Now, what was he saying about no power creep...
 

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LMAO! The burden of proof is on you to prove Levia is stronger than Scissor Runner. There is no feat or hype showing one is superior and Laxus is fighting both of them so the go to excuse that Erza/Laxus' enemy is stronger flew out the window. Mira also injured Levia, Laxus' opponent, and saved Laxus from his magic drain so...
If there is no equality statement why should we assume that there is any equality between them ? There is nothing saying that Azuma is stronger than Kain, should we equalize them now ? There is nothing saying that Torafuzar or even Silver are stronger than Jackal or Ezel, should we equalize them now ? Wanna know, you convinced, i'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira and Laxus. Giant Lucy wouldn't be able to damage the lacrima without Merc's body either.

Richard isn't fighting a dragon right now, isn't S Class, isn't hurting Laxus' dragon, isn't tanking stuff with Laxus and isn't saving Laxus. So yeah Mira has the same buff as Laxus and Erza and is damaging 2 dragons at once and tanking everything Laxus is. That's a comparable feat to Erza slashing Motherglare or Laxus matching Levia's punch, if not better.
That's it isn't it, that's all this is about, you are clinging to Mira S Class rank like a shipwreck survivor clinging to a lifebuoy to keep from drowning. ''Give me freedom, give me fire, give m S CLass rank or i retire''. You have absolutely nothing without that, nobody would even put Mira above Lucy even before the DG power up before without this S Class rank. Mira never fought anyone comparable to Gildarts and Mira fans want her to leech other S Class by doing nothing beyond stalemating Skullion and making a shot put with a dragon STRONGER THAN HER.

LMAO! Meanwhile in canon. Mira got hyped as Laxus/Jellal tier by Natsu and is facing the same dragons Laxus is and is tanking the same moves Laxus is in the same conditions.
If you don't show Mira being EXPLICITLY and unequivocally stated to be as strong as Laxus and Jellal then cope harder.

Elexion's soul is Laxus' trump card, cope harder. Outside of a lightning dragon king red lightning attack he has no special form to compare to alegria like you all are implying. He's not erza who transforms and Mira also just used physical power, no magical attack like red lightning.
Is him using Elexion soul WITH Red Lightning is his trump card, is him using it right now ? Allegria is not beating Skullion by her own words. Lmao, RL is literally a mode change like Natsu's ones. Mira is being beaten right now, what's your point ? That Mira deserves to compete in an olympic shot put ?

Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Juvia isn't here it's Miraxus.

Also Juvia's magic counters Anchors unlike Mira/Laxus/Erza with their dragons. Talk to me when Scissor Runner is a DEMON DRAGON and Mira can take him over.
What stops Anchor of being equal to Scissor Runner right ? Posing duo scaling ? Just like signarios and Tempester/Torafuzar?

Juvia can't harm him and need Gray assistance for that, what a good counter. And Mira also got a dragon slayer advantage now, the moment peak Gray had it against Viernes he defeated the dragon, both Mira and Laxus are failing but at least Laxus has Skullion and Kirin scaling, and the absence of RL to say he jobbed and is stronger than Mira.

Lmao I already showed you Mira tanking the moves Laxus tanked and hurting 2 dragons at once; Satan Soul Mira drawing with Skullion while Clear heart Erza with Benizakura was outclassed by Kyria. You're are willfully ignorant.
At Alvarez Erza with broken bones destroyed a meteor and don't even rank her higher than bloodlusted Gray and DF Gajeel back at the time, the easiest thing a protagonist can make is endure attacks from stronger enemies. Other thing, should i equalize the entire Team Natsu at Tenrou because they all endured Hades attacks? Erza also jobbed to Luso and Youko, are them stronger than her or she just jobbed and dominated them at their rematch?

Why would I mention anchor when he beat Gray and Juvia together without Wendy's boost on them?

You separate them because you are biased. Nothing so far gives a strongest CB like we has a strongest spriggan. By you guys' logic no character can ever prove they're strong because you'd always rank their enemies as weak. Again SCALING BACKWARDS.
He never defeated them. His human form was beaten by Juvia with Gray's ice, and even when he returned in dragon form there was no sign of them being beaten.

There is no statement, but by feats Earthbuild is the strongest and either Scissor Runner or Anchor are the weakest.

Spriggans are stated to have the higher MP than previous enemies, so everyone who defeats a spriggan alone must have powercreeped Hades, something they didn't at Tartarus. BDSK like Kirin and Misaki were directly compared to Gildarts, so defeating them is reaching Gildarts level or surpassing it. If you were portrayed to be weaker than a spriggan and later you fight someone who could one shot a spriggan, then you get stronger. Even Mira got stronger as before she was portrayed to be below spriggans wasting Allegria on minions and fighting a holding back Jacob, in 100YQ stalemating Skullion was a improvement, but that's it, she did nothing special after that, and no, olympic shot put is not special.

Prove that Scissor Runner is weaker than Levia. Like it or not Scissor Runner is now Laxus' opponent too so deal with it.
Skullion

Then she's Laxus' equal too then. 😉
Idk why you're bringing up Juvia, her and Gray worked together without Wendy's enchantment and lost, to likely come back. Mira and Laxus with Wendy's power hurt CBs and tanked their moves, together.

Elfman, Richard and Sorano did nothing to Scissor Runner and you know that. This is why Elfman is in base. Mira is the one who threw him so hard from a great distance that he spun uncontrollably in the air and then crashed into Levia, this saving Laxus. Mira is the one, with Laxus who took 2 of Scissor Runner's attacks to protect Elfman.
Everything to push Mira agenda huh
You act like if Elfman, Angel and Hoteye were just jerking around and the only thing that happened in the entire offscreen fight is what we saw onscreen. Talk about signarios equality, talk about Torafuzar and Tempester equality, why did you run from them?

Who can prove that her olympic shot put wasn't only possible thanks to their help. Hurting Levia through Scissor Runner don't upscales Mira, same way lucy wouldn't be able to destroy the lacrima without using Merc.
 
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