It’s tricky because I can’t shoot after death and day 1 is not enough info to go on with I was hoping to maybe die day 3 I was a bit appalled I was actually killed yesterday for the nonessential reason, I hope Natasha has re adjusted her “list” so I guess they have recruited yesterday kako was super shady yesterday but so was Cowan with his usual mafia play by stalling time and just blowing dust in our eyes .
regarding my vote I think I was killed mainly for the copan shift but mafia masked it for my poor word choosing albeit it could be that Votelick panda
Reading back the posts, Kako vs Hardy leaves me a bit perplexed. I would agree with Kako more but maybe i am just bitter Hardy voted me out Day 1 criticizing me for reasons I really found off base, plus the tone he used. I believe Day 1 should be more chill but whatever, not the first (and probably last) person I had light beef with so maybe it's just me or my English coming across wrong.
Speaking off, @Natasha I am feeling quite frustrated, because even when I want to turn the page you had to put me red in your sus list and, cherry on top, you last second locked on a Townie I voted beforehand, making me a suspect for the following day. I wouldn't be surprised to see you pushing for my lynch.
Accounting for that I am still inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt for now because you were forced to save yourself at the end of the day and I thought as well that Lawl wasn't the worst option, i really hope to avoid a repeat of last game too believe me.
Kako also suspects Pom, I can agree on the weird lock, but to me her play style seems much different than last game where she was Mafia and her reasonings on Lawl weren't even much different than Kako's at least at the beginning of day 1 so not really sure what to think, I'll have to read more into it before giving a more definitive opinion.
votelock Panda
A lot left to discuss, but I will go with Lawl-dono’s choice. I still think Kakoha is a goodlynch. If Panda flips town, I’ll look into who was voting him today (other than me) and why.
so I didn't want you to get lynched ?
I said I'd go more into details because there was like 10mins on the clock. u want to call that rambling, sure, whatever you want, but that's details for me.
no, I changed from lawl because I changed my opinion on him, and seeing you not trying to save him lead to the obvious conclusion that it's benefiting you so much.
btw, the ppl that could have saved lawl are you, degojaru and tatsu. from this list, you're the only one who spoke about how much lawl is green. yet you chose to not save him and have the "I didn't notice the time" excuse instead
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did that nother time come yet ?
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votekill pompom
her behaviour is more scummy then hardy's at this point, so Imma vote now because I'm gonna dissapear a little now, I will come backway before day end
oh wow, so much fun, day end is at 2 am
I probably won't be around day end
also @Hardy the day ends at min 20 not sharp, don't play dumb this time around
Didn't look like it no. Again I even asked you to explain further and you just scratched your balls as other 3 players were on the block.
Those aren't details it's just the same thing but with 3 more lines lmao that shit wouldn't take you 10 minutes.
For the 8th time maybe? Where did I speak much about lawl being green? This is agenda. And yes I didn't notice the day was ending, I even posted randomly asking for people to elaborate when the day was pretty much over.
For @Copy Panda , i read him as green yesterday, though of the 3 votes we got on Lawl i admit that his is probably the stranger one reading back the posts of the last hour of day 1 and I see some others share my opinion about this including Lawl.
So far he is the most likely to catch my vote today but as always, open to debate on this.
Secondly @Hardy wanna hear what you think about my Day 1 play with today's context, i am off you for now because Lawl flipped Town and he also didn't seem weary of you in his post today, but you did play a bit weird yesterday imo, on that I follow Kako more..
Kakoha is very likely red, yes. I should have saved my vote to snipe him in case nobody else want to. Istill think panda might be another red, but I will go to sleep and have little time to help in end dp tomorrow.
Kakoha has been pushing his agenda a bit too shamelessly I’d say. Trying to sus me and hardy, not properly answering the questions, then flipping and wording himself as if we haven’t answered his questions. At this point, he def has some hidden agenda.
For @Copy Panda , i read him as green yesterday, though of the 3 votes we got on Lawl i admit that his is probably the stranger one reading back the posts of the last hour of day 1 and I see some others share my opinion about this including Lawl.
So far he is the most likely to catch my vote today but as always, open to debate on this.
Secondly @Hardy wanna hear what you think about my Day 1 play with today's context, i am off you for now because Lawl flipped Town and he also didn't seem weary of you in his post today, but you did play a bit weird yesterday imo, on that I follow Kako more..
No I still think your vote on Lawl was much weirder than Panda's who can give the excuse of revenge-voting Lawl. The third vote is Nash who said only did it to survive so... wtv.
Why me?
Today's context only makes you D1 even worse since Lawlett flipped green. Nothing changed positively about it.
What is there to agree with Kakoha over the confirmed Restless Spirit? Are you 2 together?
I just told you that your posts are worded and crafted maliciously, dissected questions for you to answer which you ignored purposefully, and then you tell me I did not address why I find your posts suspicious. Go backread the thread, when you find my posts, address myq questions and stop pretending I didn’t say anything, we can talk.
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Votekill Kakoha, I’m actually convinced you are scum with how evasive you are to address the questions posed
No I still think your vote on Lawl was much weirder than Panda's who can give the excuse of revenge-voting Lawl. The third vote is Nash who said only did it to survive so... wtv.
Why me?
Today's context only makes you D1 even worse since Lawlett flipped green. Nothing changed positively about it.
What is there to agree with Kakoha over the confirmed Restless Spirit? Are you 2 together?
Didn't look like it no. Again I even asked you to explain further and you just scratched your balls as other 3 players were on the block.
Those aren't details it's just the same thing but with 3 more lines lmao that shit wouldn't take you 10 minutes.
For the 8th time maybe? Where did I speak much about lawl being green? This is agenda. And yes I didn't notice the day was ending, I even posted randomly asking for people to elaborate when the day was pretty much over.
Why did you change your opinion on lawl? maybe because your initial argument was silly, which I brought up?
What exactly is scummy about Pom for you to dislike her more than me, in theory?
Will remember the ending time.
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Don't rush against Panda even Lawl agreed on the case against Kakoha...
all I'm gonna say is everything you said here have been ansewer in past posts, including "What exactly is scummy about Pom"
if you're town, idk why when I reply you just say I'm rambling, wait a bit and then ask the same questions again
You're ignoring the second half of the sentence. From the way I'm reading you I'm 100% scum and Pom like 80% yet you voted her and suspect her more because(?)
Alright, I'm back. I think I've skimmed over most of the pages. My earlier omo was just a bookmark for myself to know where I had read. I'm assuming that in an 11-player game, mafia will rush for mislynches rather than make serious efforts to remain hidden for an extended amount of time.
While backreading, my main suspects were Sam and Pom, and I think reading this last page, where they agree with Lawls insubstantial post about why to vote me. I was even lucky to be able to post somewhat in that last hour, which is painted by Sam (and Lawl, now) as an expedient attempt to stall for time and get through the day. If I were as smart as they paint me out to be, surely I'd have tried to mix in a little rather than so obviously draw their ire.
My countervote on Lawl at the end was largely self-preservation. I had to save myself in the moment, but I was also sure Lawl would continue to vote for me throughout the rest of the game (as he has now done again) so between him, who claimed a "tricky" role and Nashy who I had no real reason to distrust or worry about, I chose to kill him. I want to note that during that last hour, I was also conversing, so I wasn't all there on thread. That aside, Sam painting disengaged behaviour as scum behaviour, I think, is largely bad-faith reasoning. Essentially, I think he recognises I was busy and considered me a sitting duck to shoot at unpunished.
His reasoning for voting Nashy over me based on gut-feeling, while being sure about Lawl, split the vote and made it so someone would have to vote either me or Lawl, both townies in this case, out of the game. If Sam is mafia, surely this is beneficial for him; for today, he's been able to claim his hands are bloodless and cast stones at me. I think if he was acting in good faith, he'd recognise that I was, in fact, voting to preserve myself, and I gave a reason as to why Lawl claiming a "tricky to use" role was a non-descript falsehood that could essentially describe anything. I argued there very likely weren't "tricky" roles in this game. I was right btw; Lawl claimed active, and it turns out he was a passive Restless Spirit - hardly tricky. Die and vote.
Sam didn't acknowledge that; rather, he says here it's tricky for Lawl to use, but then he says here vanilla is just lock-in. Surely there's nothing special about Lawl in particular piloting this role? Then in Lawl's death post, he explicitly calls Kako super shady, but vote me anyway, something conveniently ignored by Sam (and also Lawl himself, I guess). In other words, him portraying my low activity on D1 and reasoned voting as sus, and then now blindly agreeing with Lawl's vote on me, all make it so it feels like he is fishing to have me lynched.
I'm also somewhat suspicious of Pomcha. Just here she says she's convinced Kako is mafia, but 10 posts later I get a locked vote of Lawl and she joins in? What's funny is she's saying that she's gonna look into why people die when I flip green, yet the most mafia thing you could do is just blindly go along with that vote and blame a dead man. Yesterday, her vote switch stood out to me. Mostly, I thought it was quite early to vote, as if she didn't want to have to do anything with the eventual result. Was Kako, at that point, already saying things so suspect that it warranted a lock? I'm not sure, because I didn't read D1, but it seems like a strategy to avoid responsibility for the result.
I think I'm somewhat comfortable with some of the high posters like Hardy, Kako and Nashy. Marm somewhat surprised me with her contributions; I'll have to read some of the low posters in detail. If I had to identify a third mafia, I still think Tatsu, maybe. Her early contributions were surprising to me, and I think if it were up to me, I'd have lynched her D1.
all I'm gonna say is everything you said here have been ansewer in past posts, including "What exactly is scummy about Pom"
if you're town, idk why when I reply you just say I'm rambling, wait a bit and then ask the same questions again
While backreading, my main suspects were Sam and Pom, and I think reading this last page, where they agree with Lawls insubstantial post about why to vote me. I was even lucky to be able to post somewhat in that last hour, which is painted by Sam (and Lawl, now) as an expedient attempt to stall for time and get through the day. If I were as smart as they paint me out to be, surely I'd have tried to mix in a little rather than so obviously draw their ire.
I don't think so. You asked questions to try and blend in so it looked like you were catching up, that was your play there because it wouldn't necessarily draw people's attention when you've been busy. However, your demeanour let you down and you failed the vibe check, and what you did offer to progress things was minimal.
I don't think so. You asked questions to try and blend in so it looked like you were catching up, that was your play there because it wouldn't necessarily draw people's attention when you've been busy. However, your demeanour let you down and you failed the vibe check, and what you did offer to progress things was minimal.
For the sake of argument then, I am town. Who then become your suspects?
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If you're a townie, you should be willing to consider this is a crazy tunnel you're in and this early at least look around and consider other option no?
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In general I think it would be productive if everyone listed their proposed three suspects with reasoning
Didn't have to be a waste but you and the others condemned Lawl instead of going for her who had some stench to her. You certainly didn't have to vote Lawl to save yourself at that point
