Games Mafia Game 145 - Vampire Crawlers - Night 2

[GrySun]

Day 2 votes

11/11 votes

5x Kakoha (Hardy #266 #541, Lady pompom #277, Tatsumaki #327, Degojaru #328, Marmalade #556, Copy Panda #557)

4x Copy Panda (Lawl Po Bia #281, SirSamuel016 #284 #554, Degojaru #286, Lady pompom #287, Kakoha #488)

1x Natasha (Vali x lucifer #337)

1x Vali x lucifer (Nash #529)

0x Lady pompom (Kakoha #276)

Day 2 end countdown

On the second day, the group traversed the..

The Futile Scribe was cursed to know all and understand nothing. His endless library may gift us insight... or damnation. A mask of stone whispers endlessly within.

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[Copy Panda]

Its 3am fuckwit and I'm struggling from my new meds so you're getting what you get while I deal with the insomnia and shit

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:24 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 4:24 PM ---

sorry fuckwit was rude

This whole part is rude. Take a break and cool down

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:31 PM ---

Coulda gone Nash, coulda gone me, coulda gotten on the ball and coordinated tatsu; end of the day it was a self-preservation vote.

I'd need a realignment but Nash, Tatsu, Pom, Vali are in my sphere of suspicion. Kako been a little cooked but the irrationality seemed town-ish

I didn't distrust you or Nashy. Still don't distrust her, you claimed she had some stench on her yesterday but those remained vibes only presumably? Given how faulty your gut is (physically, even) generally and me now specifically, I don't consider this an argument on it's own. Also Tatsu had I think just one vote? I didn't think voting her would save me.

Lawl voting me unreasoned, by the way, is also not a valid reason in itself. You and Pom blindly following a biased player who himself provides no more substance, reasoning or evidence is not a valid reasoning.

What about Vali?

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:47 PM ---

@Vali x lucifer @Degojaru @Tatsumaki Id love to hear especially what three players you think are sus and trustworthy and why

 

[Kakoha]

You're ignoring the second half of the sentence. From the way I'm reading you I'm 100% scum and Pom like 80% yet you voted her and suspect her more because(?)

I specifically said in a post that nothing can be 100% in this game, and I might be wrong in everything. and u come now and put pourcentages in my mouth like what are you even talking about lol
with that said, I still think there's a big chance mafia with your behaviour. but I sus you mainly by how you talk + probably how you didn't save lawl yesterday. like sure even if u didn't see the time, you could have saved him, you see him about to get lynched, why were you waiting for the last min to change ???
on the other hand, pom's whole journey is weird and mafia like imo, and I have already explained how + add to it how she immediately jumped on the panda train right now and you can see why she has brighter red then you do.
if you didn't like my reasoning, it's fair, but don't reply by "you're just rambling" please. laziest type of replies you've been pulling

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:57 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 4:57 PM ---

I've claimed already and hinted way before that

what was it ? vanilla ? I might have missed it

 

[Hardy]

I specifically said in a post that nothing can be 100% in this game, and I might be wrong in everything. and u come now and put pourcentages in my mouth like what are you even talking about lol
with that said, I still think there's a big chance mafia with your behaviour. but I sus you mainly by how you talk + probably how you didn't save lawl yesterday. like sure even if u didn't see the time, you could have saved him, you see him about to get lynched, why were you waiting for the last min to change ???
on the other hand, pom's whole journey is weird and mafia like imo, and I have already explained how + add to it how she immediately jumped on the panda train right now and you can see why she has brighter red then you do.
if you didn't like my reasoning, it's fair, but don't reply by "you're just rambling" please. laziest type of replies you've been pulling

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:57 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 4:57 PM ---

what was it ? vanilla ? I might have missed it

so much scum rambling here

 

[Kakoha]

so much scum rambling here

 

[Vali x lucifer]

limited response innit

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:19 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 4:18 PM ---

For the sake of argument then, I am town. Who then become your suspects?

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:21 PM ---

If you're a townie, you should be willing to consider this is a crazy tunnel you're in and this early at least look around and consider other option no?

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:22 PM ---

In general I think it would be productive if everyone listed their proposed three suspects with reasoning

If I go by gameplay/narrative read i would have you, Nash and Sam as my biggest 3 suspects, not all 3 together tho that's impossible imo. But having at least 1 Mafia there seems reasonable to me.

If I go by vibes, I liked your defense tbh, but i would feel like shit misslynching Sam (or Nat), were they to flip Town here, also given D4 in the last game.

Then i can't read Hardy vibes at all, but he got it right in D1, I just find it suspect how aggro he is on me and Kako, I guess it could just be a matter of play style.

Can you (or others if they agree) elaborate on the Tatsu speculation, that looks quite out of the left field imo.

 

[Degojaru]

Specifically what are you agreeing on?

Thinking that you are hiding something behind your D1, but will not vote you right now, the chances of u being red are low and there are many other options now like Panda & Kako or Kako & Sam. At least I'm sure 99% Kako is scum. I liked Panda defense post so gonna give him the benefit of doubt, anyways my sus on him was pure vibes

 

[Hardy]

On not saving Lawl: I wasn't too convinced he was townie in the first place, and the fact that you moved away made me think you both could be scum together and you were saving him.

kako moved his vote away from lawl? to save him??

--- Double Post Merged, Wednesday at 12:34 PM, Original Post Date: Wednesday at 12:34 PM ---

sus movement, now shading hardy for being rude while hes a bum

Like he did.

I wanted to prod around a bit and see more votes before I made a decision, I thought I had 30 minutes not 10.

 

[Degojaru]

Also I'm more openly to switch into Kako today and not Panda

 

[Hardy]

Thinking that you are hiding something behind your D1

I don't think either of Marm, Pom and well me said that.

I liked Panda defense post so gonna give him the benefit of doubt, anyways my sus on him was pure vibes

I don't agree with all of it but it's well put together, seems genuine.

 

[Tatsumaki]

My ankle is giving up on me but I made it back.

Pan, is your whole suspicion on me just based on the fact that for once I wasn't busy when the game started ? (It has happened before btw)

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 6:31 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 5:58 PM ---

So a few things
When backreading the whole convo it felt like every discussions was going in circles, nothing new nor interesting was said.
I see the lack of kill as a recruitment honestly and I don't understand why that option was practically not discussed.
I don't like the way 3 people quickly piled on Pan after Lawl's post.

For my players categorization
Townish : SirSamuel016 / Natasha / Hardy
Neutralish : Degojaru / Vali x lucifer
Mafish then :Marmalade / Kakoha / Copy Panda / Lady pompom

 

[Copy Panda]

I specifically said in a post that nothing can be 100% in this game, and I might be wrong in everything. and u come now and put pourcentages in my mouth like what are you even talking about lol
with that said, I still think there's a big chance mafia with your behaviour. but I sus you mainly by how you talk + probably how you didn't save lawl yesterday. like sure even if u didn't see the time, you could have saved him, you see him about to get lynched, why were you waiting for the last min to change ???
on the other hand, pom's whole journey is weird and mafia like imo, and I have already explained how + add to it how she immediately jumped on the panda train right now and you can see why she has brighter red then you do.
if you didn't like my reasoning, it's fair, but don't reply by "you're just rambling" please. laziest type of replies you've been pulling

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 4:57 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 4:57 PM ---

what was it ? vanilla ? I might have missed it

Yeah, I claimed at the end of D1 to settle any confusion. Had I been more active, perhaps I could have feigned something more interesting to attract a kill. I didn't want to be lynched, though

If I go by gameplay/narrative read i would have you, Nash and Sam as my biggest 3 suspects, not all 3 together tho that's impossible imo. But having at least 1 Mafia there seems reasonable to me.

If I go by vibes, I liked your defense tbh, but i would feel like shit misslynching Sam (or Nat), were they to flip Town here, also given D4 in the last game.

Then i can't read Hardy vibes at all, but he got it right in D1, I just find it suspect how aggro he is on me and Kako, I guess it could just be a matter of play style.

Can you (or others if they agree) elaborate on the Tatsu speculation, that looks quite out of the left field imo.

What are your thoughts on Sam, Nat, Hardy and Kako? All four doing some aggressive positioning no doubt, even at odds with each other. Do you believe mafia must be hidden among there? What about less active ones?

As for Tatsu..

Pan, is your whole suspicion on me just based on the fact that for once I wasn't busy when the game started ? (It has happened before btw)

Partially, yes But it's not specifically that you were posting a lot, it's just that it seems remarkable you were volunteering so much information about yourself concisely in a few posts. I'm not sure I generally see you lean into early credit like that. I thought that seemed out of the pale. I'm not necessarily getting a pressed vibe from you otherwise, but down the line if we're looking for a last member I'd certainly keep this in mind

Thinking that you are hiding something behind your D1, but will not vote you right now, the chances of u being red are low and there are many other options now like Panda & Kako or Kako & Sam. At least I'm sure 99% Kako is scum. I liked Panda defense post so gonna give him the benefit of doubt, anyways my sus on him was pure vibes

On not saving Lawl: I wasn't too convinced he was townie in the first place, and the fact that you moved away made me think you both could be scum together and you were saving him.



Like he did.

I wanted to prod around a bit and see more votes before I made a decision, I thought I had 30 minutes not 10.

Is the essence of the Kako red read that he seemed uninvested in any kind of lynch outcome?

I don't agree with all of it but it's well put together, seems genuine.

Like what specifically? I hope you're not just leaving some room to lynch me later over something unmentioned now

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 6:34 PM ---

So a few things
When backreading the whole convo it felt like every discussions was going in circles, nothing new nor interesting was said.
I see the lack of kill as a recruitment honestly and I don't understand why that option was practically not discussed.
I don't like the way 3 people quickly piled on Pan after Lawl's post.

For my players categorization
Townish : SirSamuel016 / Natasha / Hardy
Neutralish : Degojaru / Vali x lucifer
Mafish then :Marmalade / Kakoha / Copy Panda / Lady pompom

Pom just locked on me following a stacking (that you yourself don't like, you say?), so it's unlikely she and I are on the same team

What's your read on Marms?

 

[Tatsumaki]

Pom just locked on me following a stacking (that you yourself don't like, you say?), so it's unlikely she and I are on the same team

What's your read on Marms?

In the mafish part I put the people I don't have a good impression of, not necessarily a functional team. It's unlikely you and Pom are together yeah but then again we've seen mafos sniping each other in the head for street creds before.
idk marm, I just feel like she's blending in real well.

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 6:52 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 6:49 PM ---

I'll admit that 4 people stacking you in the span of 6 posts feels weird. In such a small people game on D2 ? It's too many people conveniently agreeing with each other imo.
That doesn't make you green by default of course, but that raises questions.

 

[Copy Panda]

Mostly Sam and Pomcha I'm curious about here @Degojaru could you elaborate (again, perhaps) what your case is on me, and who else you find sus or trustworthy

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 7:00 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 6:59 PM ---

Hmm so you pretty much trust Hardy and Nashy

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 7:03 PM ---

Sam has been far too zealous and intentional in his push against me, with far too shakey logic. Lawl dying would normally evoke a measured response, meanwhile Sam and Pom are frothing at the prospect of lynching another claim. With Sam there's always the possibility it's categorically terrible play, but would town Pom really rush her vote like this? Not once but now for the second time locking halfway through the phase? And now locking 10 posts after she claimed to be convinced Kako was mafia? Because Lawl gestured in my direction? Hm

 

[Degojaru]

Is the essence of the Kako red read that he seemed uninvested in any kind of lynch outcome?

Partially yeah, but imo it's a plus between his D1 posts and the way of starting a train and get down of it when many people joined.

Mostly Sam and Pomcha I'm curious about here @Degojaru could you elaborate (again, perhaps) what your case is on me, and who else you find sus or trustworthy

I don't have anything against you, was just D1 vibes and I'm thinking on switching my vote but next one is locked so need to think it better.

Hmm so you pretty much trust Hardy and Nashy

Indeed, but I'll not put my hands on fire for them, at least for now idk if I see someone 100% green but maybe it's cause prev games lol

 

[Hardy]

Is the essence of the Kako red read that he seemed uninvested in any kind of lynch outcome?

Partly. That one switch made a huge mess to the point no one else moved a vote after, only Nash who was about to die. His choice was me that he refused to elaborate that day, when the detailed push was just adding 2 or 3 more lines.

Arguing in bad faith and pushing narratives doesn't do him any favours. Eg. he was asked to bring back the posts were I supposedly defended Lawlett and Sam had to do it for him. Then he tried to pretend that Sam was agreeing with him.

Like what specifically? I hope you're not just leaving some room to lynch me later over something unmentioned now

Paranoid much? I'm at work I wasn't going to dissect that shit rn. Agreeing or not has little to do with the fact that it's a townie writing it.

Onto the specific things I don't agree:

Sam and Pom being top suspects.

Being fine with Kako and Nash.

Identifying Tatsu as third mafia feels arbitrary at this point, she has hardly posted. Not saying she's trustworthy but there's a big gap between both.

 

[Marmalade]

i was asking questions when i showed up



youre awfully quiet, maybe a claim or hint before you go

You know I was literally brunching with friends, try again with real questions mister.
Quiet!?? Go bully other players silly
You started asking questions after being sussed by players and going “im just a bear” type of moments multiple times. Cant blame people finding that weird when others did want to at least share something instead of pretending to be active ;3

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 7:22 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 7:19 PM ---

oh marm actually did talk a bit mb, but a hint would be kind

“Mb im just not reading the thread at all”

silly i said in my first post I was active, try again

 

[Vali x lucifer]

What are your thoughts on Sam, Nat, Hardy and Kako? All four doing some aggressive positioning no doubt, even at odds with each other. Do you believe mafia must be hidden among there? What about less active ones?

I am mainly following the only real lead we have, Lawl got lynched, as i wanted to do since the beginning. You and Nash were obvious suspects from my pov, as you voted for it, Sam is the person outside of us three voters that i feel like contributed the most at forcing the decisive vote that happened to land on the Townie, plus he pointed me early today and when i replied he got back at me fairly aggressively even accusing me of things he did as well like lyching an active claimer (when people yesterday even had some suspicion about the unusually high amount of active claimers so i really didn't get where he was going there).

About Kako, Hardy and i would even add Pom here, i saw a lot of discourse with next to zero concrete leads that i would find substantial enough to mount a lynch, at least not over our only actual lead and my initial idea. I gave my opinion on if they felt green or not because they discussed a lot and wanted to put out my impressions, not really because i wanted to follow that lead specifically in todays lynch, although i admit i considered it while talking with Hardy since even Sam happened to align with him quite a bit so it raised my eyebrow.

The less active ones would basically be fodder picks, like yeah, i could speculate on if they feel sus or not but i would be discussing over very little, and even with a hit i feel like i would solve fairly little.

 

[Degojaru]

I am mainly following the only real lead we have, Lawl got lynched, as i wanted to do since the beginning. You and Nash were obvious suspects from my pov, as you voted for it, Sam is the person outside of us three voters that i feel like contributed the most at forcing the decisive vote that happened to land on the Townie.

But didn't was Sam against voting Lawl since beginning? also knowing Lawl voted for him, it's easy to do a revenge vote and he chosen to not do it.

 

[Marmalade]

(Am almost home with a cute laptop, catching up rn)

 

[Vali x lucifer]

But didn't was Sam against voting Lawl since beginning? also knowing Lawl voted for him, it's easy to do a revenge vote and he chosen to not do it.

Sam is a strong player, I am not taking him at face value, say for example he knew that Lawl and Panda were Town and wanted to remain out of the spotlight while securing a Lynch on either of them, forcing Nat to lock on them would be the play a Mafia Sam would make imo. Then again, it's only one of the possible scenarios, we got little to go off for now.