Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump (2026) - News and Discussion!

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[Stivie]

. It is not like when we have a real drop in sales like with the Kagurabachi situation.

And it still sells more than 100K, and it took a long time for it to drop, unlike Roku which looks like it's going to fall right after the second volume.

 

[RealityChecker]

And it still sells more than 100K, and it took a long time for it to drop, unlike Roku which looks like it's going to fall right after the second volume.

But it is still in the bottom 2.

 

[Nuesmoker]

I don't see how Roku is being favoured at all, the series is clearly very popular with readers and it's selling well, getting a early 2nd cover is about survey results, not volume sales, and tbh we're not even seeing the manga ranking in the top 3 or something, most of the time it ranks in 6th lol

Also, selling 7.5 in 3 days and 8.5 in 5, i'm failing to see where this is a "decent" drop, it feels more like flat.

I say it as a Roku fan, it is 100% being favoured lol

 

[Stivie]

But it is still in the bottom 2.

Bleach has been at the bottom of the rankings for years and hasn't been canceled.

 

[RealityChecker]

Bleach has been at the bottom of the rankings for years and hasn't been canceled.

Nobody said anything about it getting cancelled. But it could be transferred or go into an hiatus.

 

[Franz]

With the anime in april ? No way

 

[Nuesmoker]

Why do we always circle back to Kagurabachi, holy shit enough I BEG.

Also, both Shinobi and Roku got pushed a lot, end of story, god.

 

[Stivie]

Nobody said anything about it getting cancelled. But it could be transferred or go into an hiatus.

Except for One Piece, Kagurabachi sells more than many Jump manga currently.

Roku, which is a favorite here, has better sales than Kagurabachi.

Furthermore, Sakamoto Days and Witch Watch are ending, so Jump can't let go of Kagurabachi now.

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With the anime in april ? No way

And then there's the anime, which will start in April.

 

[Broseph]

Kagurabachi ain't moving magazines and it's not even going to go on hiatus. It's the only manga other than One Piece selling over 100k copies in a month right now. Now that Sakadays and Blue Box are over, Jump knows the current lineup lacks motion especially with One Piece going on frequent breaks. There's a reason they're bringing Naruto and Bleach back into magazine. It's because they are getting desperate and with that kind of desperation, they aren't moving Kagurabachi

 

[Bulju]

I don't mean UD's volume 1-2 drop, I mean it's volume 2-3 drop. Under Doctor had an over 50% drop because of scalping, that's obviously not comparable to Roku.

Also, Shinobi isn't fluctuating, volume 8 did 11.1K in 4 days, it's first week performance is the same as it always is.

Mangahelpers 101:

When a manga I like drops in sales but still gets pushed, it's "fluctuating" and "doing well with readers".

When a manga I don't like drops in sales but still gets pushed, it's "fucking saito pushing his favs again I swear to god this guy's is the worst fucking editor we ever had oh my god".

 

[BelTL]

What I get from this debate is KGB is turning into the Reiwa HxH

 

[Kiaida]

Most people like Roku on here so its never really a topic of discussion but I think its pretty funny how a series can get a cover on chapter 17, get tons of color pages, basically only rank in the top half (it's usually 6th lol) only for it to drop a decent bit on the second volume (It did 7.5K in 3 days and 8.5k in 5 days, its drop is probably worse than Under Doctor's).

Especially considering how this thread acted like Saito was the devil for doing the same thing with Shinobi, which sells a decent bit better physically and digitally (Roku doesn't even do particularly well digitally). Mind you, Saito will sometimes rank Shinobi and Kiyoshi in the bottom 5, Roku's favoritism clearly extends beyond those series. Roku's 8.5K in 5 days isn't even that much better than Kiyoshi volume 7 doing 7.9K in 5 days.

I like Roku but its kind of annoying how Shinobi's editorial treatment got like 50 pages and a ton of whining only for Roku to perform worse, get treated better, and everyone just ignore it. Kind of makes me think all that discourse wasn't about people actually being critical about Shinobi's performance, more about them not liking Shinobi and liking Roku, it's hypocritical.

This is literally the first day we have that shows a drop in weekly sales for Roku. Shinobi took a while to get some criticism for the editorial push, getting stronger after it got a LCP for no reason and was pushed together with Kagurabachi and Ichi at the Festa and a cover.

If you go back, I was in doubt it was going to perform well and only started to believe it was safe because of the early cover. Going by that and the vol 1 sales I just didn’t say anything about the editorial treatment because it was easy to assume they had data showing it would grow a lot Sakamoto or Hertz style. Now we know that’s not the case and can discuss how it’s treated and if it was an exaggerated push or not. Considering other 20k sellers don’t get random covers, they exaggerated yeah.

That said I don’t forget the talk here defending the pro Shinobi bias as “a manga growing every volume” while Nue was treated as a decliner that would soon be surpassed. That never happened and they’re still hiding Shinobi’s circulation numbers.

We all have our predictions influenced by biases.

 

[Nuesmoker]

This is literally the first day we have that shows a drop in weekly sales for Roku. Shinobi took a while to get some criticism for the editorial push, getting stronger after it got a LCP for no reason and was pushed together with Kagurabachi and Ichi at the Festa and a cover.

If you go back, I was in doubt it was going to perform well and only started to believe it was safe because of the early cover. Going by that and the vol 1 sales I just didn’t say anything about the editorial treatment because it was easy to assume they had data showing it would grow a lot Sakamoto or Hertz style. Now we know that’s not the case and can discuss how it’s treated and if it was an exaggerated push or not. Considering other 20k sellers don’t get random covers, they exaggerated yeah.

That said I don’t forget the talk here defending the pro Shinobi bias as “a manga growing every volume” while Nue was treated as a decliner that would soon be surpassed. That never happened and they’re still hiding Shinobi’s circulation numbers.

We all have our predictions influenced by biases.

This. Give it some time and Roku will be complained about also.

 

[RealityChecker]

If you go back, I was in doubt it was going to perform well and only started to believe it was safe because of the early cover. Going by that and the vol 1 sales I just didn’t say anything about the editorial treatment because it was easy to assume they had data showing it would grow a lot Sakamoto or Hertz style. Now we know that’s not the case and can discuss how it’s treated and if it was an exaggerated push or not. Considering other 20k sellers don’t get random covers, they exaggerated yeah.

So you think they should shove Roku into the bottom because of the sales dropping, like what they are doing to Kagurabachi?

 

[pennycryman]

This is literally the first day we have that shows a drop in weekly sales for Roku. Shinobi took a while to get some criticism for the editorial push, getting stronger after it got a LCP for no reason and was pushed together with Kagurabachi and Ichi at the Festa and a cover.

If you go back, I was in doubt it was going to perform well and only started to believe it was safe because of the early cover. Going by that and the vol 1 sales I just didn’t say anything about the editorial treatment because it was easy to assume they had data showing it would grow a lot Sakamoto or Hertz style. Now we know that’s not the case and can discuss how it’s treated and if it was an exaggerated push or not. Considering other 20k sellers don’t get random covers, they exaggerated yeah.

That said I don’t forget the talk here defending the pro Shinobi bias as “a manga growing every volume” while Nue was treated as a decliner that would soon be surpassed. That never happened and they’re still hiding Shinobi’s circulation numbers.

We all have our predictions influenced by biases.

I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but it feels like you took my comment to be targeted at you but it wasn't really. I've always pointed out how Jump's treatment of Nue is really dumb, I literally never said that Shinobi would surpass Nue and know about the discrepancy with their digital figures. I just thought changing the name of the thread to complain about Shinobi's push was really excessive and not replicated with any other push. They stopped pushing it when it had a clear stagnation anyways, they do this with most series. Maybe they'll start ranking Roku lower, who knows. Given how Saito treats his hits though, I doubt it. I'm not saying I want Roku to be a bottom ranker, I like it well enough.

 

[Kiaida]

So you think they should shove Roku into the bottom because of the sales dropping, like what they are doing to Kagurabachi?

No, I don’t think even Kagurabachi should be there every week. I guess I’m in favor of them shuffling things around more instead of Roku and Shinobi being perpetually at the top while other regular series are always ar the bottom or are banned from LCPs and covers. People call it gag bias, but I still see no explanation to why Himaten was treated so poorly in comparison to Shinobi and Kiyoshi.[/QUOTE]

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I'm not sure if you meant it that way, but it feels like you took my comment to be targeted at you but it wasn't really. I've always pointed out how Jump's treatment of Nue is really dumb, I literally never said that Shinobi would surpass Nue and know about the discrepancy with their digital figures. I just thought changing the name of the thread to complain about Shinobi's push was really excessive and not replicated with any other push. They stopped pushing it when it had a clear stagnation anyways, they do this with every series. Maybe they'll start ranking Roku lower, who knows. Given how Saito treats his hits though, I doubt it. I'm not saying I want Roku to be a bottom ranker, I like it well enough.

I didn’t take it at me, it’s more that I can explain the different scenarios for me as someone who complained a lot about how Saito treated Shinobi in comparison to the other mid tiers. I agree that he’s doing the same to Roku now, seems like his thing is to bet and push hard a few specific series he trusts in and then move on to another if it fails to grow.

 

[yeahitstruethough]

If you read The Elusive Samurai synopsis, you wouldn't even think that was a heavy on comedy series. Do you think editors lied about that and Elusive Samurai is a fraud?

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The problem with Kagurabachi is that it had a harsh drop on sales and the arc is being heavily disliked.

So why isnt Ichi at the bottom when people actually hate its recent arcs and it lost an even larger % of sales

Oh right, its just complete BS

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anyone using TOC as an objective measure of popularity is just lying out their asses

Kagurabachi is super duper actually unpopular which is why they release 1 figure a day and it sells out in seconds

 

[pennycryman]

So why isnt Ichi at the bottom when people actually hate its recent arcs and it lost an even larger % of sales

Oh right, its just complete BS

?

It's barely dropped whatsoever lol.

Ichi the Witch 8 - 95,725
Ichi the Witch 9 - 93,537
Ichi the Witch 10 - 90,394.

 

[FantasticFootno]

So why isnt Ichi at the bottom when people actually hate its recent arcs and it lost an even larger % of sales

Oh right, its just complete BS

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anyone using TOC as an objective measure of popularity is just lying out their asses

Kagurabachi is super duper actually unpopular which is why they release 1 figure a day and it sells out in seconds

People also claim that Sakamoto Days fell off, and yet it still stayed at the top third of the mag lol. I think the real thing to realize is that if a series sticks to doing what people like, it'll stay high. Clearly Ichi is doing that, as we've seen what's made it tank in the past (the shark stuff).

 

[yeahitstruethough]

A series that sells half as much only needs to lose half as much to lose the same %

Stop being angry kagurabachi is infinitely more successful than Nue or Ichi will ever be in a million years