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[LogicoftheVI]

Kagurabachi is only 14 pages this week...smh. If it was not for Cannon Master still holding on, Kagurabachi would have 4 straight last place finishes. I've been seeing people complain that this arc is being dragged out. That is kind of crazy to think of when the guy is shorting chapters by 3-6 pages on a weekly basis. Maybe the story progression is being hampered by his inability to complete an entire chapter. Would 4 more pages (about 2 whole chapters worth of material) per chapter move the story ahead or is each chapter's cliffhanger the same it would be if he was doing 19 pages? At this point I really hope they consider moving him to a different magazine or jump+ where he could do a bi-weekly thing.

Under Doctor back in the bottom 5 where it belongs!

Insane how wsj constantly lose their big hits and yet no new notable series to replace it

Your post is a bit of an oxymoron. They couldn't constantly lose big hits if they weren't making any notable or new ones.

Jan is in Danger! Lead Color Pages

Spoiler

This color page does absolutely nothing for me. The art style looks like it's supposed to be out of the 50's or something. Hopefully the art style will play into the story otherwise this one is likely DOA for me.

Witch Watch Color Page (Final Chapter)

Spoiler

This color page feels lifeless. While the character designs look cool the characters themselves are all very bland here. There is no soul or personality here.

Shinobi Undercover Color Page

Spoiler

Really good color page.

Graykeith: Translator Daemonica Color Page

Spoiler

The best color page of this batch.

Kagurabachi chapter 139 has 15 pages, not 14, i counted myself, the leaks people are seeing online is missing 1 whole page.

It doesn't even matter whether it is only 14 or 15 pages. The fact of the matter is that it is not a full 19 pages, yet again. That should be more of the talking point, rather than the leakers missing one page when the author misses 4 on a weekly basis.

Nakama Ryo author comment for the first chapter of "Jan is in Danger!":

"I'm starting a new manga series! I'll put my heart and soul into it, so please look forward to it!"

IMO it has nowhere to go but up right from the start. If it can't clear the ridiculously low bar that I have set for it then it's likely not for me.

Hmm, he might actually be into something...

I am looking forward to this manga. I have high hopes for it.

Elusive Samurai at least didn't abandon the main plot, unlike Roku, which hasn't developed anything yet. So, for me, Roku is more of a fraud than Elusive Samurai.

Tell me you are not up-to-date without telling me you are not up-to-date. They have been progressing the plot in Roku for several weeks now. The author certainly has not abandoned the main plot as you say.

I think Ura could have. Especially after being on Top5 and having a color page on chapter 8.

Ura i think it has a real chance.

Ura is falling into the same bin as Someone Hertz for me. Even though I read it weekly and it occasionally has a chapter I feel is good, I do not think these manga are for me. I am not getting the appeal of either of them. The fanservice in Ura is not appealing to me at all and actually makes me not like reading it. This is likely due to my advanced age and who they are targeting. I'd be happy for this to be replaced by something more my taste.

Bleach has been at the bottom of the rankings for years and hasn't been canceled.

Are you still on this? I did a huge breakdown of this the other day. You cannot compare these series to Bleach. Bleach took 10 years before it started to decline and it was a slow decent to the bottom. It was 14 years into its run before it started to crater at the bottom of the magazine. You cannot compare that to what is happening to Kagurabachi 4 years and only 140 chapters in to its run. You are not even comparing apples to oranges here. you are comparing a Ferrari to a donkey.

 

[yeahitstruethough]

TOC hasnt been a sign of actual popularity for at least half a decade now

Kagurabachi has always averaged in the bottom half but its actually been super unpopular this whole time? Editorial just treats it like shit to boosts its industry plants no one reads

 

[pennycryman]

A series that sells half as much only needs to lose half as much to lose the same %

Stop being angry kagurabachi is infinitely more successful than Nue or Ichi will ever be in a million years

Kagurabachi 11 - 151,135
Kagurabachi 12 - 124,297
% Change - 17.76%

Ichi the Witch 9 - 93,537
Ichi the Witch 10 - 90,394
% Change - 3.36%

No, I'm not saying Kagurabachi is more popular than Ichi, I don't even think its decline is that bad (people really overexaggerate it lol). Phantom Busters just had a 28% drop, Bachi's is pretty average considering the overall industry decline.

But, no Ichi's stagnating, not declining.

 

[FantasticFootno]

A series that sells half as much only needs to lose half as much to lose the same %

Stop being angry kagurabachi is infinitely more successful than Nue or Ichi will ever be in a million years

Is that last dig supposed to mean something lol? I'm certain the people hating on Bachi are not angry Nue fans lol. And ichi fans are already happy enough about how much their series is pushed, not everyone is hyper obsessive over volume sales.

 

[yeahitstruethough]

Kagurabachi 11 - 151,135
Kagurabachi 12 - 124,297
% Change - 17.76%

Ichi the Witch 9 - 93,537
Ichi the Witch 10 - 90,394
% Change - 3.36%

No, I'm not saying Kagurabachi is more popular than Ichi, I don't even think its decline is that bad (people really overexaggerate it lol). Phantom Busters just had a 28% drop, Bachi's is pretty average considering the overall industry decline.

But, no Ichi's stagnating, not declining.

Just to prove the point you included the 5th week for Ichi but not for Kagurabachiq

 

[Stivie]

Kagurabachi is only 14 pages this week...smh. If it was not for Cannon Master still holding on, Kagurabachi would have 4 straight last place finishes. I've been seeing people complain that this arc is being dragged out. That is kind of crazy to think of when the guy is shorting chapters by 3-6 pages on a weekly basis. Maybe the story progression is being hampered by his inability to complete an entire chapter. Would 4 more pages (about 2 whole chapters worth of material) per chapter move the story ahead or is each chapter's cliffhanger the same it would be if he was doing 19 pages? At this point I really hope they consider moving him to a different magazine or jump+ where he could do a bi-weekly thing.

Under Doctor back in the bottom 5 where it belongs!

Your post is a bit of an oxymoron. They couldn't constantly lose big hits if they weren't making any notable or new ones.
This color page does absolutely nothing for me. The art style looks like it's supposed to be out of the 50's or something. Hopefully the art style will play into the story otherwise this one is likely DOA for me.

This color page feels lifeless. While the character designs look cool the characters themselves are all very bland here. There is no soul or personality here.

Really good color page.

The best color page of this batch.
It doesn't even matter whether it is only 14 or 15 pages. The fact of the matter is that it is not a full 19 pages, yet again. That should be more of the talking point, rather than the leakers missing one page when the author misses 4 on a weekly basis.
IMO it has nowhere to go but up right from the start. If it can't clear the ridiculously low bar that I have set for it then it's likely not for me.
I am looking forward to this manga. I have high hopes for it.
Tell me you are not up-to-date without telling me you are not up-to-date. They have been progressing the plot in Roku for several weeks now. The author certainly has not abandoned the main plot as you say.

Ura is falling into the same bin as Someone Hertz for me. Even though I read it weekly and it occasionally has a chapter I feel is good, I do not think these manga are for me. I am not getting the appeal of either of them. The fanservice in Ura is not appealing to me at all and actually makes me not like reading it. This is likely due to my advanced age and who they are targeting. I'd be happy for this to be replaced by something more my taste.
Are you still on this? I did a huge breakdown of this the other day. You cannot compare these series to Bleach. Bleach took 10 years before it started to decline and it was a slow decent to the bottom. It was 14 years into its run before it started to crater at the bottom of the magazine. You cannot compare that to what is happening to Kagurabachi 4 years and only 140 chapters in to its run. You are not even comparing apples to oranges here. you are comparing a Ferrari to a donkey.

You say you see several "fans" complaining about the arc, but I doubt that you or Shinuki have talked to any of them. In the Reddit discussions, there are many who believe that the arc shouldn't be rushed and that it's at a good pace.

And yes, I'm going to compare it to Bleach, after all, even with good sales, Bleach fell in the rankings just like Kagurabachi. And I shouldn't even bother with the opinion of someone who says the manga should be canceled because of the number of pages.

Roku gives more importance to comedy than to the main plot, and it's no use justifying that with the fact that it's a comedy, because there are many comedies that don't need to ignore the main plot to be funny.

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Kagurabachi 11 - 151,135
Kagurabachi 12 - 124,297
% Change - 17.76%

Ichi the Witch 9 - 93,537
Ichi the Witch 10 - 90,394
% Change - 3.36%

No, I'm not saying Kagurabachi is more popular than Ichi, I don't even think its decline is that bad (people really overexaggerate it lol). Phantom Busters just had a 28% drop, Bachi's is pretty average considering the overall industry decline.

But, no Ichi's stagnating, not declining.

Tell that to @RealityChecker and @SharkBait

 

[Thehoennhippo]

1000 pages by the end of the year suddenly looking very possible.

 

[SharkBait]

Phantom Busters just had a 28% drop

Hey, no fair, dont bring PhanBus into this, it did nothing wrong. Let us fans enjoy the anime announcement high.

 

[Kiaida]

1000 pages by the end of the year suddenly looking very possible.

Let me help

Spoiler: .

kagurabachi

 

[Bulju]

1000 pages by the end of the year suddenly looking very possible.

We just need a couple more people without avatars being confrontational and inflammatory for no reason and we'll get there for sure.

 

[NewUser767s]

Lets be honest

Kagurabachi is WSJ only shot of having massive hit. Ichi does not look like it has mainstream appeal nor does other manga currently running.

And any new battle shonen will need at least 3-4 years until it gets an anime. Making it into the 2030's


By massive hit I mean >1M seller or at least >500K physical. And before anyone goes into the digital sales thing. That'd still reflect into the circulation anyway. So lets rephrase and say circulation >50M

 

[RealityChecker]

Lets be honest

Kagurabachi is WSJ only shot of having massive hit. Ichi does not look like it has mainstream appeal nor does other manga currently running.

And any new battle shonen will need at least 3-4 years until it gets an anime. Making it into the 2030's


By massive hit I mean >1M seller or at least >500K physical. And before anyone goes into the digital sales thing. That'd still reflect into the circulation anyway. So lets rephrase and say circulation >50M

Like CSM?

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You all should lower your expectations of what could be hits or not. Not even CSM got to JJK levels of hit despite all its hype.

 

[NewUser767s]

Like CSM?

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You all should lower your expectations of what could be hits or not. Not even CSM got to JJK levels of hit despite all its hype.

CSM is a massive hit and would have been bigger if the author didn't end part 1 and kill popular characters so early.
With that said, it's going to be >50M with worldwide easily.

That doesn't matter though the part ended in WSJ a while ago and even part 2 ended. So it's not part of the conversation. Same way KNY and JJK aren't.

 

[Lord Anubis]

1000 pages by the end of the year suddenly looking very possible.

Allow me to contribute:
Saito is playing things way too safe right now

 

[RealityChecker]

CSM is a massive hit and would have been bigger if the author didn't end part 1 and kill popular characters so early.
With that said, it's going to be >50M with worldwide easily.

CSM ended its first part with the final volume selling over 500K. Its anime didn't bring it to the level of JJK and KnY. That's the point I am trying to make: Whenever people think something will explode and become the next JJK or KnY, I just pan over to CSM and see what it didn't become. You should always lower what you think it will happen. All that to say that 300K is the absolute ceiling to whatever Kagurabachi will sell in one month for one volume after the anime airs. It will not reach even 400K.

 

[NewUser767s]

CSM ended its first part with the final volume selling over 500K. Its anime didn't bring it to the level of JJK and KnY. That's the point I am trying to make: Whenever people think something will explode and become the next JJK or KnY, I just pan over to CSM and see what it didn't become. You should always lower what you think it will happen. All that to say that 300K is the absolute ceiling to whatever Kagurabachi will sell in one month for one volume after the anime airs. It will not reach even 400K.

Yes we obviously cannot predict what will become a hit or not. Otherwise Shueisha will just be pumping KNY copies nonstop and every other publisher would do the same.

However we can see patterns and one of those patterns is usually it being a battle shonen manga instead of a romcom or a gag manga.

I'm not predicting Kagurabachi is going to be a million seller. I'm saying it's the only shot WSJ has currently in terms of probabilities. Others are very improbable.

 

[FantasticFootno]

Yes we obviously cannot predict what will become a hit or not. Otherwise Shueisha will just be pumping KNY copies nonstop and every other publisher would do the same.

However we can see patterns and one of those patterns is usually it being a battle shonen manga instead of a romcom or a gag manga.

I'm not predicting Kagurabachi is going to be a million seller. I'm saying it's the only shot WSJ has currently in terms of probabilities. Others are very improbable.

You say this while ruri exists.

 

[RealityChecker]

You say this while ruri exists.

People tend to forget it because it is not on the physical magazine and it is constantly on break. But I think it will be very big whenever the anime comes, not only because it already is a hit but also because of its anime studio being KyoAni.

 

[Kiaida]

The thing about the sales discussion is simple: monoculture is either dying or is already dead, with a few zombies left around that will gradually decay as well. Covid was basically the last breath of it. Jujutsu Kaisen, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tokyo Revengers, etc are part of the last batch of monocultural manga helped by the lockdowns. Post-covid is the era of fragmentation where more and more people enjoy the freedom to choose what to read or watch.

This already happened in other industries. Music industry is fragmentated since the 2000s when radios and CDs lost their role for discoverability to the internet and services like Youtube and Spotify. How many here listen to BTS? How many here listen to Zhou Shen? How many here listen to J. Balvin? These are all huge artists and mainstream with specific demographics, but I couldn't tell you a single song from any of them and that's fine. The age of new universal arists like The Beatles, Queen, Elvis Presley, Madonna, etc is over because people can pick and choose. Some artists will still hit higher and get songs more mainstream than the usual, but it's not a guarantee that this will happen or that it'll reach a % of the global population as it used to in the past.

The same is happening to manga. The industry is actually growing, but the average sales for major hits is going down and WON'T recover. People can repeat a million times how "Jump is in crisis", it doesn't change that the market and the industry changed. There's no mandate saying we're due to a new batch of million sellers. There's no Naruto, One Piece and Bleach in potential hiding, if these all started today they would be selling half or less than what they did back in the day, that's the reality of it.

This isn't to say Kagurabachi can't go higher. Maybe it can pull a Chiikawa and luck into becoming major mainstream in Japan, the point is that there's no guarantee at all that this will happen like a decade or so ago. If it pulls 300k physical, that's a great result. It can even sell dozens of millions with digital + overseas sales.

And even saying that, it's not like Saito has a bunch of potential 100K sellers he's denying. Look at how all the biggest new shonen are performing in all magazines, this isn't Jump specific. Even 100k is turning into a very very rare exception, it's time to accept the sales bar is lower than the past and that 100k is what you can call "mainstream" now and that series doing 20k and 30k are among the highest sellers in the market. These numbers are also all likely to go down even more in the future.

It's a balkanized industry and that's fine. There are great manga everywhere and as long as they're profitable enough to be made, that's enough for you if you like it as art or entertainment. The issue is that some people will always miss the monoculture more than the works themselves, it's why we keep seeing millennials turning into boombers online "missing the big 3" or whatever. These times aren't coming back. Naruto and Bleach don't need to save Jump because there's nothing to be saved. Things just changed.

That season Bocchi the Rock went more viral in Japan than Chainsaw Man should have already made it clear. If a Manga Time Kirara adaptation can "beat" the new Big Jump Thing, it means people already enjoy a variety of genres in greater numbers than they used to in the past. And that's not to say Chainsaw Man failed, it's still insanely popular and the Reze movie proved it just needed a bit of tuning to be even bigger.

Jump is stilll leading the pack in sales, maybe even opened a bigger gap in comparison to Magazine and Sunday than they used to in the past. But if you're still chasing the highs of weekly Jujutsu Kaisen fan culture and memes, it's better to get used to the idea of it becoming extremely rare. Either that or enjoy Kimetsu no Yaiba corpse slowly rotting for 100 years.

 

[Xanji06]

UzuRepo posted his digital sales estimations and for Nov 2 - 8 following wsj volumes made it (just their estimations for digital numbers; not anything official)

3. Sakamoto Days #29: 58.100 Physical + 47.669 Digital = 105.769
(btw first is SxF with 410K and second is dandadan with 130K)

21. Nue's Exorcist #17: 13.568 Physical + 14,767 Digital = 28.335

38. Shinobi Undercover #10: 11.768 Physical + 8.622 Digital = 20.387

worth noting that this weeks ranking is full with One Outs Volumes since they were digitally available for 100 yen each so Nue & Shinobi would have a "higher number placing" tho not that this matters anyway for those 2; sucks that UnDoc and Roku didn't make it to the top 50.