Shounen Double Arts by Komi Naoshi

[Muddy]

Doesn't matter. SJ has a tendency of canceling series if popularity remains relatively low for about two years (i.e. Mx0, Busou Renkin). If memory serves me right, DA has had a few chapters which were rated quite well, and there's still the issue of how Volume 1 will sale. I'd only be worried if DA continues this cycle for a while, but I doubt it'll happen. Things such as DA having 1 chapter be 45 pages in addition to several colored pages indicates this series has garnered attention, in Japan at least.

Thus far, the mangaka gives the impression of being competent, so I'm not worried about DA's future for the time being.

Actually, cancellations happen much sooner and much more often than that. It takes about eight to ten weeks of a series constantly being at or near the bottom to be offed; series like Mx0 and Busou Renkin got to hang out in the middle for a long time while less popular series took their turns at the chopping block, but finally they ran out of luck too (Mr. Fullswing managed like this for YEARS).

In addition, the color pages, covers, and extra-long chapters are all efforts on the parts of the Jump editors to *make* the series popular; the recent results reflect reader input much more so (which is why the lower placing worries me). There's been a push on Jump's part to create the next hits (Mago, DA, Toriko) and while Mago's seems to have worked, and the series is near the top, DA has dropped. Toriko hasn't been set free to the masses yet.

All that said, it's definitely too early to worry, even if it is a little disconcerting. There should be at least another two months before the next round of cancellations, which gives the series a lot of time to clamber up.

And finally, I'm glad we share our evaluation of the manga's quality

 

[kaloo]

Especially with relatively new series. I hope DA doesn't flop. *hugs Double Arts* Well it probably has at least until the first volume hits the shelves. If that doesn't sell though...

 

[shrimpy]

I don't know if this is correct to say but DA seems to be too "good natured" for its own good. It's nice having these sentimental stories, but if it doesn't pick up the pace, quite honestly i think it will suffer tremendously. Elle's a goodie two shoes, Kiri's got a sense of justice and quick wit but he's quite weak. In fact, elle seems more like luggage right now--she had better get something to increase her value, and fast. And no, not a boob job.

Naruto got it right--hit action first, then tap into sentimental sob stories. (ninjas are always a plus)

 

[Neji2112]

i follow this series as much as i do Naruto and FMA, and to some extent, even more so.. i really hope it doesnt get knocked off. i try to keep the english DA wiki page up to date as often as possible. not to mention keeping up with the posts here and on OM. buti'm glad to see that it'd be a few months b4 anything happens.

but i think most of it was because of Hine being, well...annoying (not my opinion though), and possibly because Sui's being gone for like 3-4 chapters. but that's just a guess... and there hasnt been a major fight since chapter 13

it's such a different series from all the others out there, it doesnt adhear to all the normal cliches of an "adventure" manga, just look at Fallan... a kids meal, with the flag! being forced to hold hands or one will die, a crazy twig that eacts cherries and kicks but, badguys who die in one hit. and that's just a few things that make it unique. and the cliche of Kiri's "chosen one" position, he's got his artistic quirks, ect. ect.

the art is amazing IMO, it's simple yet elegent, and can be quite amuzing (Sui) lol

and of course with Andie showing up soon, Sui finaly back, and training about to begin hopefully the rankings will begin picking back up soon!

 

[Muddy]

I think Shrimpy's exactly right. Double Arts is, in a way, too good for Shounen Jump. Most readers, hungry only for action or whatever, can't appreciate its fantastic pace and characters and storytelling. And as Neji2112 said above, it breaks too many of the conventions to be a hit (even though precisely all these departures from the norm are what make it so amazing and unique to me). It's like the regular Jump reader is too immature or impatient or blind (or all three) to get it.

I felt something like this with Muddy, which had a very quirky, peaceful pace, and a very unique but hilarious sense of humor, and which flopped immediately. With Arts, though, I feel this ten times as strongly. This series is a real gem and I'll lose a lot of my faith in Jump if it ends anytime soon. It's frustrating.

I also don't know if this is really any indication of how tankoubon sales will go, but Arts volume 1 currently has a 2-star (out of 5) rating on www.amazon.co.jp, based on four reviews...

 

[Dofla]

Double Arts #1:

 

[Maxy Barnard]

if that isn't my favourite volume cover i've ever seen may someone strike me down!
what's more, don't hold too much faith in reviewless ratings, or just the rating in general. Psyren and Sket dance have high star volumes, and i'm pretty sure they haven't sold too well. or at least hit the shonen top 10. so we still have a blind stab for Naoshi

 

[EL_manana]

And where can I see the official ratings? Can someone please give me a link. ^^

 

[Succubus]

And where can I see the official ratings? Can someone please give me a link. ^^

^amazon.co.jp, but it's not official >.>

if that isn't my favourite volume cover i've ever seen may someone strike me down!
what's more, don't hold too much faith in reviewless ratings, or just the rating in general. Psyren and Sket dance have high star volumes, and i'm pretty sure they haven't sold too well. or at least hit the shonen top 10. so we still have a blind stab for Naoshi

that is true

review = our opinion

you would be looking at Amazon.co.jp Sales Rank in コミック・アニメ・BL section >_>

Amazon.co.jp Sales Rank (Comics & Anime)

#14 - To Love Ru v10
#17 - Naruto v43
#58 - Mx0 v10
#64 - ES21 v31
#149 - Nurarihyon v1
#239 - Double Arts v1
#889 - Yusha v5
#2790 - Bari Haken v1

 

[Crude]

That is one beautiful cover! The colours, the pose, everything looks great!

 

[Succubus]

Mei from 2ch

-Spoiler Script-

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第19話 "レッスン1"

キリの頼みを引き受けたファラン

そして修業が始まります
ファランがしゃべりますが、要約すると「全て俺に任せろ」

そしてファランはキリエルに問います

ファラン「今　お前達が強くなろうとするにあたって、最も必要とされているものは何だと思う？」
エル「え・・・と・・・パワーとか戦闘知識？」
キリ「経験？」
ファラン「良い読みだ だが違う それらも大切だが最も必要なのは お前らの一体感 完璧なコンビネーションだ！！」

という事で、それを効率的に身に付けられる訓練をやるようです

エルー「何をするんですか？」
ファラン「それは・・・　ダ　ン　ス　だ　！　」

ダンス始まりました
スイは大爆笑
キリ達は踊りつつも突っ込みますが、ファランは超本気です

そしてファランはなぜか自分の話を始めます

ファラン「オレはある国の遊撃部隊にいたんだ
　　　　　だがそこを抜けてからは　世界中を巡りあらゆる武術を身につける旅をしていた
　　　　　・・・それこそ 新手の武道から古武術まであらゆるものを
　　　　　そうするうち・・・　いつしか押しえる程にもなった
　　　　　これでも 他人に戦う術を教えてきた経験は多いつもりだ
　　　　　まあ・・・　信じる信じないはお前次第だが」

そして、お前らには才能がある　今は信じてレッスンを続けろ　と続けます

ファラン（二人には確かに素質がある・・・そこはいい）

　　　恐るべきは
　　　こいつの
　　
　　　フレアという
　　　力・・・！！

　　　手を繋ぐ程に
　　　力を倍化
　　　させてゆく能力だと？

　　　そんな事を
　　　ノーリスクで・・・
　　
　　　無尽蔵に・・・？

　　　有り得ない・・・！！

　　　それはさながら
　　　"永久機関"にも似た・・・

　　　万物の法則に
　　　反する
　　　存在してはならん
　　　力だ・・・！！

手を繋ぐだけという・・・
　　　タダ同然の対価で
　　　無限にエネルギーを
　　　抽出できる

　　　無から有を
　　　生み出すがごとくに・・・

　　　これは人間の領分を
　　　超えている

　　　この力がもし

　　　想像豊かな
　　　クズ共の手に
　　　渡ったら

　　　世界は・・・

　　　キリ・・・

　　　お前はどういう
　　　運命を背負って
　　　生まれてきたんだ・・・

ファラン「・・・お前らに話がある　このレッスンの最終目標というのはな
　　　　　一つの・・・お前達だけの"武術"を作り上げる事にある」
キリ「オレ達だけの・・・？」
ファラン「そうだ・・・なぜなら　この世にお前達のように　手を繋いだまま戦う武術など無いからな
　　　　　ならば一から作り上げるのみ」
エル「・・・私達が　作る・・・！」
キリ「オレ達だけの"武術"・・・　か・・・」

　　　それが出来るまでは
　　　面倒をみてやる・・・

ファラン「・・・名前が要るな　とりあえず　今はこう呼ぶとしよう
　　　　 双 戦 舞 ( ダ ブ ル ア ー ツ )」

煽り「その名は、二人だけのもの！！」


第19話・・・/おわり

愛用の眼鏡を失くした！失く
なるはずがないのに。オレが
悪かったから出てきて<直志>

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-4 Spoiler Pics- >>>06:34PM [4th pic added]<<<

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[Muddy]

Spoiler

Oooh, now the title comes into play. Interesting.

 

[Neji2112]

alright! spoilers!

Spoiler

simple pg. 1 translation Fallan: "Dance!" Kiri & Elle: "Eh?" Sui: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
their fighting style is based off dancing! and if i'm reading it correctly, the style is called "Double Arts" ...duh.. lol but i guess whatever works!

Dancing will more than likely just be the basics of their fighting style and then they'll build upon that.

 

[Shrimp]

Spoiler

Perhaps the dance is just the basis for their training, to make them synchronize with each other ; like in Evangelion : they trained their synchronization by playing Twister... but of course they never played it during the actual fight ! It may be the same here, and they'll eventually really learn fighting techniques...

And... was Sui laughing on that pic ?

 

[LegACy]

Hey, that's a pretty cool cover!! Anyone have a bigger version?

Spoiler

Is that "Double Arts", Farran said to them in the third pic?

So it's a training arc... I wonder if we're gonna see the actual training, or is there gonna be a skip and we're gonna get fast-forwarded to a coming crisis and we'll see the result of the training...

 

[segua]

Spoiler

Dancing makes perfect sense. In dancing, especially two people, there must be coordination and choreography. You also got to learn how to lead, follow, react, adapt and respond accordingly to the situation. Which they will get from learning how to "dance." So if it really is dancing, they could fully utilize flare to their best abilities.

 

[EL_manana]

Spoiler

I want a little time skip. So that we can see the awesomeness of the final training product right on the battlefield. I hate detailed training arks.

And thanX a lot, Guts!

 

[Pirulito]

Spoiler

a timeskip to preserve the flow of the action will be good

 

[Neji2112]

Spoiler

however, if we do get a time-skip, it will probably be sometime shortly after Andie arives with the group, or after they go to find out what happened with the rest of Falzen.

I hate detailed training arks.

hehe like Naruto..lol

 

[predsfan]

Spoiler

lol, Sui makes the best faces! This chapter is looking good, and it appears the page where it says Double Arts is possibly the last page of the chapter. Not that it really matters, b/c any chapter w/Sui is win!