Eliz at 100k. Not even kidding, didn't want to feed the Otaku but ah wells. If she can harm 3C Estarossa, shes at 100k.
Depends on which Elizabeth we are talking about, when she was in her prime prior to being cursed or as she currently is?
Holy Knights win, Meliodas would be overwhelmed.
Diane.
Yes, feed me more Elizabeth praise and acknowledgement
- I grow more biased and stubborn each time I receive it 
Even in human form, Diane can dance up to 20k so it's not much of a fight.
Revenge Counter is a risky ability, given how Meliodas needs to deactivate his powers in order to charge it.
If he could use it against the Commandments and even the DK himself, i don't see how could the HKs stop him.
Yeah, you are joking, she is nowhere close to 100K lmao.
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As delusional as ever I see.Depends on which Elizabeth we are talking about, when she was in her prime prior to being cursed or as she currently is?
Until proven wrong, Elizabeth as a human (as current) should be somewhere on the commandment spectrum of power in my opinion, since she was able to harm 3C-Estarossa and Meliodas in Assault Mode whilst both off-guard/weakened, I'd estimate that she is 40,000-50,000. Of course, most of this is exclusively magic as she's a cursed human, making her vulnerable physically.
As a Goddess in her prime (the one we saw in the flashback arc), I would assume that she would have a minimum PL of 90,000 since she's comparable to Ludoshel, who is superior to Tarmiel and Sariel who are close to this range. As @Napstablook discusses, 100,000 is a real possibility for Goddess Elizabeth's power level, maybe up to a maximum of 120,000 if light wings act as a power boost as Ludoshel/Meliodas SDM are confirmed to be at this level.
Holy Knights win, Meliodas would be overwhelmed.
Diane.
Yes, feed me more Elizabeth praise and acknowledgement
Not trying to be a jerk or anything but:
Yeah, which is biased from him ( as he loves her and his brother, just like how Nerobasta loves ludo and she is biased for him ) as showed by how hesitant Ludo was to the same Meliodas with 2nd Mark.
Ludo was just angry when Mel appeared in front of him. He was trying to kill the Induras and with Mel appearing before him he realised that he couldn't do that anymore. I don't think that scene is an indicative to say 2nd Mark Mel>Ludo. Even now, he's at Camelot without any type of fear and with the intent to kill Mel (even though we all know how it will end, lol).
I think people tend to look too much with the statement of Mael running away. In fact, I think it never says that. I think it says that he repelled the AA which means to me that Mael was stomping everyone and Mel just came in and stopped him. The Ying-Yang symbol on the same chapter portrays them as equals also. Just because we have a vague statement of Mael being "repelled" doesn't mean that 2nd Mark Mel>Mael with Sun.
How can you state as a fact that she sucks in battle when in fact we have never seen her fighting in 1vs1? That looks like a massive contradiction to me. Also, I fail to see how the statement that Mael made is biased and laughable. Her magic release pushing everyone away and making the Induras do wary faces on her, pushing them back and also stand just as "well" as 2nd Mark Mel against the Gods support the idea of her having comparable raw power to him. Of course when I say she's comparable to Mel, I'm not taking into account Assault Mode, his Innate Magic or Indura. Obviously with that he's clearly way above her.
Ludo was hesitant to face him alone, I didn't say that he was afraid of him in that scene.
Yeah, which is the same biased line as someone blinded by love lol.
All I'm saying is that they're comparable to each other, not who would win in a fight. I also think that Mel would win but we still don't know about what Flash does at its full capabilities so it is still soon to make a conclusive statement.
It doesn't matter if Escanor is there. He still got trashed all the time by Mel. Unless he's on The One he isn't going to do much. Knowing that, I don't think Ludo relies 100% on that power, he has to have pretty confidence in himself to not be instantly trashed by Mel. We also don't know what time of the day it was when Mael "retreated".
How isn't that impressive? Her magic release alone shook the entire battlefield and made the Induras be wary of her (something that didn't happen when they were fighting the AA, even though Ludo wasn't going all out). She also did it pretty well at pushing them back, even if she had to be assisted at the end. Do you honestly think that someone who is far below an AA could perform these kind of feats? I heavily doubt it. She may not have too much battle skill or experience, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have the power.
Doubt it, since the Gods were far stronger than them and I don't see how Mel could be the only one to tank all the attacks. Besides, Eli was injured also, meaning that she had to at least tank one attack coming from them, which further supports Mael's statement. Regarding to your next point:
Even if she did it, it wouldn't have had any effect so I don't know how that makes her look that bad. Not to mention that she is indeed still nerfed. Finally, how was her healing pathetic? Had not being for her, the Sins would have died multiple times in that fight.
Well, all I am saying is that if he was truly comparable to 2nd Mark Meliodas, he wouldn't lost composure and wouldn't call assist to fight him.
So going by the latest chapter and speculation.
King.
She was lmao, Derrierie knocked her with a single punch, try again.
