Chapter Fairy Tail: 100YQ Chapter 222 Discussion

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It just said that they tried to fight him, Animus and even Zirconis also tried to fight him, at the time they fought him they were literally at their GMG power level and their magical power wasn't even spriggan level according to spriggan hype. And quit the arbitrary assumptions of power growth, Mashima himself said he is avoiding power inflation and i have to read this kind of stuff :epicfacepalm

BRANDISH was treated as relevant in this same arc, even if he was regular spriggan level this would already cook you
I don’t know how you have the mental space to discuss FT while our country is in the throes of full-blown political psychosis.
 

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LOL you either don't know math or is just playing dumb to push Mira agenda. Hoteye is equal to Laxus now lmao :yodawg . I even explained that 2 x 2 is 4 and 2 x 10 is 20, despite both cases having 2 as THE EXACT SAME MULTIPLIER.



Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc ? Was Lucy abilities that destroyed the lacrima or it was only possible BECAUSE OF A DRAGON BODY.
What are you even talking about? Lucy was gigantified by Brandish.

Also Richard did nothing like what Mira did i.e. hurt Levia and Scissor runner and tank 2 attacks from Scissor Runner with Laxus.


Prove that they are identicals. CBs don't have all equals statement like spriggans. You can cry as much as you want, without all equals statement you have nothing
Can't you use spoiler tags?

Prove they aren't equal. Not one of them is called the strongest like the spriggans so...


Complain with Mira own words
Complain with Mashima's panels & statements.








You use arguments that would equalize Hoteye to Laxus and i'm the disingenuous one you clown. You speak of generic statement that mean nothing, overwank feats based on your agenda and call it a day.
No I don't. Prove it. What did I say Mira did/showed that was also the case for Hoteye?

And you ignore Mira admission of inferiority to Jura. Something very specific and bot generic
Meanwhile in 100 years quest, the same Erza who couldn't beat Jura tied with Laxus who actually beat him. What are you on?
Do you still believe Jura is on Gildarts' level too? It has clearly been changed since Mira was hyped by Natsu to be similar to Jellal and Laxus who beat and almost beat Jura.




Mira said that if the fight continued she don't know if she could win, and she already had access to Allegria, so cope harder.
Mira was already injured and exhausted in BASE so you cope harder.
Erza with benizakura and her clear heart form couldn't beat Kyria and still went on to tie with Laxus.


Precisely, God Serena> Scissor Runner and Anchor. It's not because it's a new enemy that i'm gonna overwank the fraud.
Are you serious? So God Serena can do worse than this to Laxus? Gotcha.




Erza just got stronger she didn't break the scaling lmao. Jura statement is outdated, but you are only using outdated statement and claiming that it's her portrayal, so Jura statement is also part of her portrayal, accept it, she was never equal to Laxus and Jellal, she was only equal to Erza but Erza got stronger than her, and i would say since GMG as Mira didn't knew about her second origin when she made the Jura statement. Erza was a challenge but even her wasn't Laxus and Mystogan level, Mystogan just dismiss Laxus for calling Erza weak, he didn't try to push her to their level like the anime does.

Most recent statements have her on their level. You are so biased it's not even funny. Erza and Mira were strong enough to challenge Laxus along with Mystogan, Gildarts was the strongest while Mystogan and Laxus were dead equals. Laxus was underestimating Erza as Mytogan, Makarov and Happy disagreed with this. In the GMG both were below Jura unlike Laxus BUT no one knew if Laxus could've actually won since Makarov doubted him THEN in 100 years quest Erza AND Mira came up again with Erza drawing with Laxus in the same arc Natsu compared Mira to Laxus directly. Natsu was equally excited to fight Mira as he was to fight Laxus.


Then we have Tenrou where Laxus outperformed Erza, then we have Gray in post timeskip saying that Gildarts AND Laxus as the guild members who didn't suffer from 7 years powercreep, i do not see Mirajane name here.
You see Mira's name here though.



Do you how a statement show parity?




Here, these are true parity statements Ajeel have equal MP to Brandish and Kirin has equal MP to Gildarts. This is parity, not a list of the strongest fairy tail mages. It's too much to ask for this level of specification?

And the two dragons used a roar. Base Laxus is weaker than Levia so of course he would get damaged.
Again, you keep ignoring the most recent statement.



Laxus has elexion's soul and has powered up from before he fought Kirin. Laxus doesn't have a defensive form since red lightning is offensive. He got damaged from Scissor runner too so...


Lmao, like if fighting Skullion is not a 100YQ feat of Mira. And which hype she got? You just cling to a list of strongest FT mages without any specification. Complain with Mira own words about Skullion.
What are you even talking about? Erza couldn't even beat Kyria with her peak offensive form from original manga and you're using Mira tying with Kyria's leader in BSS as an anti-feat?

She is currently matching Laxus' defense and has injured two CB's to save Laxus himself. You are so biased it's not even logical. You keep chanting Skullion like a prayer when the author gave you 2 fights in 2 later arcs with Mirajane.


Yes, i'm gonna put it clear, Scissor Runner is weaker because he was Mira's opponent. Prove me wrong without generic statements, i already showed examples of valid specific statements. And note that i did not said that Scissor Runner is weaker than Mira, he is not, you are clinging to a Mira feat that don't even puts her above Scissor Runner lmao.
Tsk tsk... no you don't. You need to prove he's the weakest and now he's Laxus' opponent too and Levia's Mira's opponent as well so are you saying Laxus' opponent is the weakest?



LOL you have been using old Mira statements but for those statements the story did not advanced, your double standards are hilarious. I put Jura statement as bait that you bite :gigglebunny I'm not saying she didn't got stronger, i'm saying that the power hierarchy did not changed FOR MIRA. Not assuming arbitrary power growths is strange now?
What are you talking about? The ORIGINAL power scaling had Mystogan, Mira and Erza competing with Laxus for the spot under Gildarts. Even if Laxus/Jellal were superior in GMG and Alvarez, Erza and Mira have continued to surge back to match them. This is why RECENT STATEMENTS are showing Natsu comparing Mira to Jellal/Laxus and Mashima saying Erza and Laxus are about equal and the original power scaling hasn't changed much. Then you have the feat of Erza tying with Laxus and now Mira and Laxus taking on 2 dragons together and mirroring one another's feats.

Jellal wasn't even present, if Erza got motivated by Jellal it's still by her own merit, if Mira gets motivated by her siblings the feat she gets is from her own merit too. Without Elfman Mira was done, Erza defeated Kyouka alone. She mid diffed Kyria in her rematch anyway, what's the point? Just pointing that Erza became Laxus level ending the rivalry with Mira for once and for all. Kyria hax can work on Laxus too, but he can still physically fodderize her without that.
She woke up hearing him call out. Nice try. Mira gave up to save her sister. Erza got help from the guild to beat Azuma after he struck her with their power.

It was still Mira going beyond her takeover limits to call Elfman just as Erza went beyond her limits and her willpower allowed her to use a 6th sense to hit Kyoka. It was a mirrored win.

Erza needed a new enchanted sword to overpower Kyria. Benizakura and clear heart were matched and outclassed on her 2ND TRY
Mira faced Skullion, who is Kyria's stronger leader, ONE TIME and tied with her weakest form.

You are acting like if Elfman won't ruin next chapters for Laxus and Mira fans.
Why would he? Erza couldn't beat a CB without dragonized earth power being there so why would I be mad that Laxus and Mira can't beat 2 and need Elfman to help out?



Should i assume that Meredy is equal to Azuma when Meredy was Juvia's opponent and Azuma was Erza's opponent? Should i assume that Ezel is equal to Kyouka when Ezel is Wendy's opponent and Kyouka's Erza opponent? No, because Juvia and Wendy are not equals to Erza, it's the same logic. After Skullion Mira can't be equal to Erza without a solid power up, be real.

You convinced me, Lucy is stronger than Merc and Erza is stronger than Acno :umad

You are the master of false equivalences. Azuma was hyped by Mira and Erza are very strong outside of feats. Kyoka is the leader under Mard Geer and Seilah is her right hand.

The CBs have no ranking showing 1 is stronger than the other and no leader among them. Laxus and Mira are also sharing 2 dragons and these 2 dragons have been a team since GMG.

Instead of accepting the fact that Mira is showing Laxus/Erza like feats you are bending over backwards to find a weakest CB out of nowhere.

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE

Also please use spoiler tags. Your posts are wrong enough already, at least make it easy on the eyes. 😉
 
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I don’t know how you have the mental space to discuss FT while our country is in the throes of full-blown political psychosis.
We live in a cursed place, there is nothing more to do in this hellish second turn. I already did my part and was politically conscious in the first turn, now i will just maintain my coherence and let the idolaters kill each other and distract myself with other things. At this point i prefer Mira and even fraudnarios stans than the idolaters

What are you even talking about? Lucy was gigantified by Brandish.

Also Richard did nothing like what Mira did i.e. hurt Levia and Scissor runner and tank 2 attacks from Scissor Runner with Laxus.
So What? Is Giant Lucy stronger than Merc now? Where are the people who gave Merc hundred excuses?

Still the exact same buff, i'm just using your logic

Prove they aren't equal. Not one of them is called the strongest like the spriggans so...
You are inverting the burden of proof. You are the one claiming that they are equals without a statement. Neither Seven Kins of purgatory nor 9 demon gates had a nominal strongest member and their strength varies a lot. Wanna know what? I'm gonna equalize Juvia to Mira just because she is fighting Anchor.

And none of this panels show any statement, you are making posing scaling again? So i will equalize the entire Team Natsu, Wendy is equal to Erza now, she even made a team up with her multiple times, they must be equals:umad Someone tell @WoWfan that he was right, Wendy was a top tier all along, we just need to do a posing scaling with her and Erza.

And Mashima said the status quo didn't changed MUCH. It changed for Erza but not for Mira who was weaker than Laxus back at GMG.

No I don't. Prove it. What did I say Mira did/showed that was also the case for Hoteye?
Your criteria was EXACT SAME BUFF. Wanna use feats now? Great, so Skullion scaling for both.

Meanwhile in 100 years quest, the same Erza who couldn't beat Jura tied with Laxus who actually beat him. What are you on?
Do you still believe Jura is on Gildarts' level too? It has clearly been changed since Mira was hyped by Natsu to be similar to Jellal and Laxus who beat and almost beat Jura.
Most recent statements have her on their level. You are so biased it's not even funny. Erza and Mira were strong enough to challenge Laxus along with Mystogan, Gildarts was the strongest while Mystogan and Laxus were dead equals. Laxus was underestimating Erza as Mytogan, Makarov and Happy disagreed with this. In the GMG both were below Jura unlike Laxus BUT no one knew if Laxus could've actually won since Makarov doubted him THEN in 100 years quest Erza AND Mira came up again with Erza drawing with Laxus in the same arc Natsu compared Mira to Laxus directly. Natsu was equally excited to fight Mira as he was to fight Laxus.

Erza did NOT MIRA. I'm saying that she remains WEAKER THAN LAXUS. I quit using generic statements to prove your agenda because it don't do that. Just look at the Gildarts and Laxus statement about the 7 years powercreep, Gildarts was a whole tier above Laxus, they weren't equals, GMG Laxus extreme diffed the Gildarts level Jura, so pre-timeskip Laxus was solidly weaker, these statements don't equalize anyone. And even Gajeel was mentioned in one of them, you are conveniently ignoring the Gajeel or just biasedly saying he has feats below them WHEN MIRA ALSO HAS FEATS BELOW THEM.

Mystogan just disagreed that she was weak, not that she was not on their level like in the anime. Makarov just thought she had chance of beating him like Natsu who was still considered to be solidly below Laxus, even Erza considered Natsu to be on her level. And do you think Natsu being excited to fight Mira nullifies her own admission of inferiority? That's your problem, you use meaningless statements to invalidate solid feats and statements. He was also excited to fight Gajeel you biased clown.

Mira was already injured and exhausted in BASE so you cope harder.
Erza with benizakura and her clear heart form couldn't beat Kyria and still went on to tie with Laxus.


Are you serious? So God Serena can do worse than this to Laxus? Gotcha.
Her Allegria is a trump card, cope harder
Laxus fodderized Kyria right before the fight lmao

Laxus has elexion's soul and has powered up from before he fought Kirin. Laxus doesn't have a defensive form since red lightning is offensive. He got damaged from Scissor runner too so...
It's just base Laxus, God Serena was stronger than his normal Red Lightning. Even if his base is stronger now it shouldn't be stronger than the original RL.

Tsk tsk... no you don't. You need to prove he's the weakest and now he's Laxus' opponent too and Levia's Mira's opponent as well so are you saying Laxus' opponent is the weakest?
It's a team fight, Raj is not equal to Wed just because o a team fight. If it was Anchor in Levia's place and Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying any equality with teeth and nails. And don't say that a duo is different, i already mentioned Torafuzar and Tempester. Heck till this date nobody equalizes the 2 grimmoire heart minions, people always consider the chicken the weaker one because his magic is lame af.

What are you talking about? The ORIGINAL power scaling had Mystogan, Mira and Erza competing with Laxus for the spot under Gildarts. Even if Laxus/Jellal were superior in GMG and Alvarez, Erza and Mira have continued to surge back to match them. This is why RECENT STATEMENTS are showing Natsu comparing Mira to Jellal/Laxus and Mashima saying Erza and Laxus are about equal and the original power scaling hasn't changed much. Then you have the feat of Erza tying with Laxus and now Mira and Laxus taking on 2 dragons together and mirroring one another's feats.
Again, Erza did but not Mira. You need to overwank a dragon that Mira didn't even defeated to push your agenda. Those aren't comparisons, they just listed the strongest FT members just like they listed Gajeel too before. I challenge you to show a SPECIFIC comparison betwen Mira with either Laxus, Jellal or Gildarts. And i'm talking as specific as a spriggan equalization or a BDSK true comparison to Gildarts. You just show generic statements that could be used even with Gajeel.

Mira faced Skullion, who is Kyria's stronger leader, ONE TIME and tied with her weakest form.
And Skullion was fodderized by BASE LAXUS while Erza stalemated RL Laxus, this one you just lost.

Why would he? Erza couldn't beat a CB without dragonized earth power being there so why would I be mad that Laxus and Mira can't beat 2 and need Elfman to help out?
Am i the one writing this mess? Reread the chapter, they are setting up things for Elfman, it's egregious writing but it's how things are.

You are the master of false equivalences. Azuma was hyped by Mira and Erza are very strong outside of feats. Kyoka is the leader under Mard Geer and Seilah is her right hand.

The CBs have no ranking showing 1 is stronger than the other and no leader among them. Laxus and Mira are also sharing 2 dragons and these 2 dragons have been a team since GMG.

Instead of accepting the fact that Mira is showing Laxus/Erza like feats you are bending over backwards to find a weakest CB out of nowhere.

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE
You equalize dragons without any basis and one say that I'M the master of false equivalency. You are so biased that you don't even mentioned ANCHOR.

7 Kins and 9 demon gates also have no official n1. This is being worse than the whole fraudnario stuff, you are creating implications without even statements, if it was Juvia in Laxus place you would be denying all of this.

Out of nowhere? He is literally the least relevant dragon, he has no screen time and is fighting Skullion's equal.

ADD JUVIA AND ANCHOR

Laxus - LEVIA/SCISSOR RUNNER
Mira- SCISSOR RUNNER/LEVIA
Erza- MOTHERGLARE
juvia-ANCHOR

Juvia is equal to Mirajane now, change my mind. And don't say that Juvia is getting Gray support, Mira got Elfman, Hotete and Angel support all this time, and the one who is gonna finish this dragons is Elfman to make them look bad.
 

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Personally I think the best feat that Mira got was the attacked she tanked along side Laxus. Which shows she at least has good durability
 
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