Football 2010 FIFA World Cup

[Asclepius]

I didn't forget what Luis Fabiano did. But i think u are wrong to say it affected Ivory Coast. Only one player raised his hand to complain right after that, cause they didn't see it. I only saw it on slow motion. It was too fast and too beautiful.
Yeah i remembered the Rivaldo time (ball at his stomach and hands on his face). I think the refeere didn't see it, he just listened to what Coast Ivory players said.

 

[Koen]

What a short and very fast replay Doesn't help a lot. The image afterwards was an example of arrogance: the referee making a move with the arms and hands and Fabiano acting: no, no I didn't do anything

http://soccer-portal.org/cat/goal-of-the-day/2188-luis-fabiano-goal-v-cote-d-ivoire.html - check the body check, how he's using his ass against a jumping defender. That's hindering the defender in an air duel, definitely a fault. Pause it on 58th sec

to the commentaries afterwards. What a delusion... well I saw a handplay even without a replay. I do see things very good during matches then again

Anyways, it is said that he might be suspended based on the images afterwards ^^

 

[destiny4ever]

Yeah, not only to Elano but with Michel Bastos too. And I don't know how that guy stayed in the game yet. The move seemed worse than what happened with Elano.

Yes, him too. I think the question should be not what players were hurt by IC, but what players weren’t? At some point it seemed as if the IC players were attacking everyone from the Brazilian team. I haven’t played football in a serious way and I haven’t played it in a long time, but what I remember faintly from the times when I used to play it with my childhood friends, a hit to that part of the leg was pretty bad (a big ouch). As I said I really hope Elano is not badly injured.

 

[Asclepius]

What a short and very fast replay Doesn't help a lot. The image afterwards was an example of arrogance: the referee making a move with the arms and hands and Fabiano acting: no, no I didn't do anything

http://soccer-portal.org/cat/goal-of-the-day/2188-luis-fabiano-goal-v-cote-d-ivoire.html - check the body check, how he's using his ass against a jumping defender. That's hindering the defender in an air duel, definitely a fault

to the commentaries afterwards. What a delusion... well I saw a handplay even without a replay. I do see things very good during matches then again

Anyways, it is said that he might be suspended based on the images afterwards ^^

That first part has never been a fault anywhere. I never saw a referee marking that in any game: one guy stays down and the other jumps, no fault there.
And the guy speaking in the video didn't see it at first, the brazilian one didn't see it at first... As i said it was too fast.

 

[Koen]

That first part has never been a fault anywhere. I never saw a referee marking that in any game: one guy stays down and the other jumps, no fault there.
And the guy speaking in the video didn't see it at first, the brazilian one didn't see it at first... As i said it was too fast.

No, you're wrong...

I think you should be careful by saying that. I play football myself and I can say it can be frustrating they stop the game for these cases a lot. I know air play isn't very common in Brazil but it's the biggest mistake people make when saying a none jumping vs a jumping player is never a mistake. Those are mostly more fault than a jumping player vs jumping player case because there's more danger because of the unbalance you create by not going into an air duel. And in this case it can be a fault because you can clearly see that the player/defender is losing his balance (which wouldn't have happened if Luis Fabiano wouldn't have that move). If I were him, I would have fallen on the ground -> mark my words: the referee would have ended the game in that case

 

[Asclepius]

But arms touching ball... yes that happened and the flag guy should had seen the first time. It was in front of him.

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No, you're wrong...

I think you should be careful by saying that. I play football myself and I can say it can be frustrating they stop the game for these cases a lot. I know air play isn't very common in Brazil but it's the biggest mistake people make when saying a none jumping vs a jumping player is never a mistake. Those are mostly more fault than a jumping player vs jumping player case. And in this case it can be a fault because you can clearly see that the player/defender is losing his balance

u need to watch more games from national teams. Remember Roberto carlos? He played in Real MAdrid a lot... That's what he always did, cause he is very short. I really don't remember a single time the referee stoppped to mark fault against him.

 

[Pirulito]

Well Di Canio, I will never forget that because I was coincidentally watching a summary of that Match (west ham vs everton I think). I still consider it as the best fair play event I watched. The ironic thing about this guy is that he admits that he is fascist, he was from Lazio and he was known for doing fascist mimic.

Oh and Elano is definitely the type of player I like a lot. He has something clear in his play (difficult to explain... hmmmm... he doesn't overact his way of playing)
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Check the replay well, by not jumping and by using his body, he's hindering the defender

It was clear enough for some players of Ivory Coast to pull up their arms.

Arrogance: you don't have to take it literally. It is not like aggressive or something. It is difficult to explain and it is difficult to see, only neutral objective viewers can see an arrogant playing style. There must be games where you didn't watch Brazil but watched two teams you didn't care and in which you said: damn that's arrogance

What a short and very fast replay Doesn't help a lot. The image afterwards was an example of arrogance: the referee making a move with the arms and hands and Fabiano acting: no, no I didn't do anything

http://soccer-portal.org/cat/goal-of-the-day/2188-luis-fabiano-goal-v-cote-d-ivoire.html - check the body check, how he's using his ass against a jumping defender. That's hindering the defender in an air duel, definitely a fault. Pause it on 58th sec

to the commentaries afterwards. What a delusion... well I saw a handplay even without a replay. I do see things very good during matches then again

Anyways, it is said that he might be suspended based on the images afterwards ^^

Well, maybe you will say it is because I'm brazilian but it isn't fault. (Just to note: We aren't nationalist, we like to screw up our country every time we have opportunity for it).
I can't agree with it, but I respect your opinion. After all, it is football and normally we don't have same opinions about the referee decisions.

And about arrogance... we have diifferent opinions of what would be arrogance in football. The example you used to explain arrogance is my example for how players pretend in the game.

In my opinion, arrogance would be something like this (an extreme example)
Do unnecessary things just to make fun of the other team.

Yes, him too. I think the question should be not what players were hurt by IC, but what players weren’t? At some point it seemed as if the IC players were attacking everyone from the Brazilian team. I haven’t played football in a serious way and I haven’t played it in a long time, but what I remember faintly from the times when I used to play it with my childhood friends, a hit to that part of the leg was pretty bad (a big ouch). As I said I really hope Elano is not badly injured.

Don't worry, he is fine. The doctor said he can play next game.

 

[Weapon_X]

Re: Hangout Thread v. 17

^^
I'm an England fan as well...and their lack of good goalkeepers is getting very annoying

I know, atleast David James is a better keeper then him. Still we played so shit against Algeria it's unbelieveable, Algeria were all over us.

 

[Saintz0r]

What was most intriguing to me was the referee talking to Fabiano after the goal and then smiling when he said that the ball touched his chest... Some journalists here are joking that as a french referee he must think that using the hands isallowed after Henry's goal
Kaka's red was undeserved imho, and the foul that Elano suffered was enough for a red card, but theguy didn't give even an yellow... just goes to show he's really awful xD
Btw, what's happening in the french team is just absurd, i've never seen something like that in a worldc cup squad.

On another note, it'll become difficult to talk to me about football... I mean, we've 7 world cups, 58, 62, 70, 94, 02, 10, 14

 

[Asclepius]

Elano's foot is OK. Just saw him saying it a few minutes ago at TV

The second half was full of controversy. After 50 minutes, Fabiano jumped in the air with Siaka Tiene and the ball brushed his arm. Ref Stephane Lannoy let it go and then Fabiano produced either the best goal of the tournament or a moment of infamy.

First he looped the ball over Didier Zokora and then lifted it above Kolo Toure before controlling it again, seemingly with his right arm, and unleashing an unstoppable left-foot drive to make it 2-0.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...501/Brazil-3-Ivory-Coast-1.html#ixzz0rRYdRuIQ

Hmmm British well know newspaper + 45 comments only talking about handball fault (or Kaka)...
I guess i saw the right side.

 

[L0ki]

I wonder why didn't this match end with a nice fight, it always cracks me up watching the famous brazilian fight style: hit from the back and start running.

And one of Elano's kids got her teeth broken. Baaaaw...

 

[Koen]

Btw, what's happening in the french team is just absurd, i've never seen something like that in a worldc cup squad.

It doesn't happen often but in '98 Scifo was excluded from the team. It happened to Belgium in '98 and somewhere in the '80s (two players then) too

 

[Googlez_kun]

I hope to see some nice performances today.We have Spain and Portugal.Their last games weren't really impressive,so they should show us some nice football today,if they want to make it to the 16's that is.

 

[Saintz0r]

It doesn't happen often but in '98 Scifo was excluded from the team. It happened to Belgium in '98 and somewhere in the '80s (two players then) too

I meant the players refusing to train, Evra and one of Domenech's assistant almost fighting, the players wanting to change the regular team, giving a letter to Domenech read, leakage of information, etc
Pretty intense if you ask me.
And Anelka shouldn't play for France ever again, aftr what he said to the coach, if he ever comes back to the team the other players will start thinking they can do that too

Portugal x N.Korea is surprisingly nice!! THe two teams are attacking, that's good
But Ronaldo... well, he's terrible, at least till now

Quick joke:
Kaka isn't playing 100% cause 10% is for his church

 

[Xophien]

I meant the players refusing to train, Evra and one of Domenech's assistant almost fighting, the players wanting to change the regular team, giving a letter to Domenech read, leakage of information, etc
Pretty intense if you ask me.
And Anelka shouldn't play for France ever again, aftr what he said to the coach, if he ever comes back to the team the other players will start thinking they can do that too

Anelka has never been liked here, for behaving like a moron on several occasions for the last ten years, so you'll understand that, let alone playing for the national team, he'd better not walk a french street ever again.

The players refusing to train? I know we frenchies are supposed to go on strike whenever we can, but on this one it's just acting stupid. This won't do any good to anyone, and they should have found another way of saying to the french federation they weren't happy with the way they handled the whole thing (and I'll admit the federation rushed things on the matter).

The information leakage? Same here, I'd have the jerk who did that hanged. This should have been solved internally, but whoever did that has done one hell of a mess. And in the meantime, the players who won the world cup '98 are whining that they should have their say in the management (mostly Leboeuf saying that, despite only ever been a bench player), the sports shows on tv talk about anything but sports, and Domenech's still smiling his stupid smile... I want to cry

 

[DanielKnoT]

This is how a team should play Futbol!.. Portugal 7x0...

Just Amazing Portugal..!!!

 

[Googlez_kun]

I want to watch the game right now!I couldn't because i was at work,but it seems as if it was an amazing game...

 

[Nuno]

PORTUGAL, PORTUGAL, PORTUGAL!!

This is how it's done people

 

[DanielKnoT]

Ohhh, and now Brazil and Portugal this friday.. What a Match!!

Brazil without Elano and Kaka jajajaja... Portugal would end in first place in this group

 

[Akainu]

boooo FIFA, get some decent referees next time