Cleaning about redrawing..

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should you redraw first then denoise or denoise first then redraw?
which one is better?
 

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"better"?
hmmm...

I'd go with denoising first so that you can fit your redrawing to the "style" of the denoised image better (just so it doesn't look too far out of place :p )
I find it harder to create a similarly noised redraw to use for denoising than to redraw a denoised image ^^;
 

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well it depends for me... its depend , what is the thing that you want to redraw ... if it SFX i usually redraw it later after denoising... if its the line art consist tone i usually redraw it first then denoising to blend it ... if the line art is pure white background then i redraw it after denoising..
 

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I always re-draw after denoisening.
 

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hmmm..
wht if its somethin like this?


(note that im soooo not goin to redraw this :))
 

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first off: woooooot for gintama!!

and then:
redraw afterwards (me at least) since, the result of the cleaning is just too unpredictable... and I wouldn't want to have to redraw trying to match that dirtlevel >_>
 

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hahahahahaaha
YAY for gintama!!

and then:
i c.... what do the others think?
 

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woo hoo, moar new Gintama! Looks like one of the newest arcs! =D

My opinion is the same as ttx- redraw after denoising because this way, what you see is what you get...denoising can be too unpredictable.

There are other ways of blending cloned art... one of them is to overlay some filter on at 20% after everything is done. It could be a screen of light, monochromatic noise, even blur.
 

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thats definitely redraw after denoising and etcetra... ^^
 

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hahah i c..
so if the art is really crappy like that, then denoise first but if the art is ok, the its redraw first rite?

edit: WWOoaaHH...my usernames brown...!
 
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yeah that should do.. but u should find your own 'neat' way.. ^^ i believe u will find your own way to do it ^^
 

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:D thx ^^
 
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