Shounen Air Gear by Oh! Great

[ghostexiled]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion

chapters out: http://mangastream.com/read/air_gear/35750189/1

 

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Air Gear 353 Discussion/ 354 Predictions

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[rogueSleipnir]

Re: Air Gear Manga to End in 5 More Chapters in Japan

Maybe he'll just end the story in a climactic point.

Does he publish databooks?? Maybe he's planning to answers questions with those.

 

[Drylick]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Yeah it's Atral Mega. The Storm's Infinity Atmosphere. And it's one hell of a trick huh. Really a good one.

I think there's no need to activate both Regalias anymore. As I've said before, both of them can use huge tricks even without activating the regalias. But I still wanna see the Storm activated. And I think, given the situation, Ikki would activate the Storm to end the fight.

 

[Sarex]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

I really hope they do activate their regalias by the end.

I get the feeling, Oh!Great chose that deal (not to use the regalias) as a get out of jail free card.

I hope I'm wrong, and that he does deliver an awesome 5 chapter finale.

 

[LoS]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

I haven't commented on Air Gear in quite some time, mainly because they have just been so shitty I didn't even bother voicing my opinion, but come on it's basically the final stretch so why are characters personalities still so hot and cold Oh Great?

 

[Lectro Volpi]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

I haven't commented on Air Gear in quite some time, mainly because they have just been so shitty I didn't even bother voicing my opinion

The final epic battle is not so epic after all, sometimes I even forget I am following AG.

This is what happens when you choose the jerk (Sora) over the Classy (Kilik), don´t say we did not warned you!

I doubt this is the end for Rika, I know OG! can kill her off for the finale´s sake but...

 

[DragonOsman2]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

@Drylick: Again, I hope you understand that any and all Tricks using the Road's "element," such as "Thorn," "Sound," "Wind," "Fang," "Thunder," etc. are all part of the Infinity Atmosphere of that Road, since that term mainly refers to "how" Road uses the air. "Astral Magus" is just the signature Trick of the Hurricane Road's Infinity Atmosphere, it's wrong to assume that it's the Infinity Atmosphere of the Hurricane Road. It's got the same name as the Infinity Atmosphere itself, of course, but it's not the same as being the Infinity Atmosphere itself. It's only the signature Trick.

Of course, any "King" level Stormrider should be able to use his/her Infinity Atmosphere Tricks without the Regalia, they really only need them for the signature Tricks. The only exceptions are the Rising, Ring, and Over Roads, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, I already said this in another forum, but I'll say it here as well:

If Sora wants to break and defeat Ikki, the best choice, as much as I hate to say it, would be for him to kill Rika and Ringo, two of the most important people in Ikki's life. His love and his older sister. Part of the problem is, Sora himself loves Rika, just like Ikki loves Ringo (Ikki's feeling are most likely stronger and deeper, though). That's why Sora is crying, it's because he's having to kill his beloved (it's also why he asked Ikki if he could hear the "sound," that of his heart bursting apart). But it's still very low of him to even consider it. The freaking bastard, he'd even go as far as killing the woman he loves just to win a freaking AT battle.

Also, aside from breaking Ikki's will, Sora might also be trying to get a huge wind from the explosion of Rika's Regalia. He said "Rika, send me a wind of despair". That could mean that when the Regalia explodes, it'll burst out a powerful wind that Sora will try to use to beat Ikki. I guess that's one way to look at it. But if that's the case, Ikki could also try to use that wind against Sora, so if this is really the case, then Sora is taking a huge risk here. But that is, of course, if Ikki can pull away from the despair and prospect of losing Rika, and possibly also Ringo, in time to attempt to use that wind to beat Sora. Or to be able to do anything to take the win in time, for that matter.

And it seems like I was right: The "Null Wind" Trick, aka Astral Magus, is the signature Trick of the Hurricane Road's Infinity Atmosphere. Since this is so, then had Ikki been allowed to fully activate the Storm Regalia (which he hadn't done thus far, still, mind you), he'd have been able to use the "Astral Magus" Trick without having to use Sora's wind as his own? He would in other words only have needed the power of the Storm Regalia? I seriously do hope so. But I guess we'll never know for sure. But I'm still sure that, with the power of the fully activated Storm Regalia, Ikki wouldn't have needed to use Sora's power at all, he would have only needed the power of the fully activated Storm Regalia. He still hadn't activated his Regalia, since the rules of the battle said that the Storm and Sky Regalia aren't allowed to be activated.

 

[Impossibility]

Re: Air Gear Manga to End in 5 More Chapters in Japan

To me it seemed as though Air Gear had run its course, and although I continued to the read the manga I'd lost most of my interest. Even the current final battle has failed to excite me. I think it's likely that everyone realised that Air Gear should probably come to a close rather than attempt to drag it on. Although I'm kind of surprised about the immediate ending. I don't really see how a lot of questions are going to be answered, including the fates of so many individuals within the manga. Agito and Kazu definitely need some face time in these last five chapters.

 

[Impossibility]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Soooo, the fight continues on. How many chapters has this battle been going on now? It seems like I've been trapped in this strange reality of continuous one-ups for months now. I honestly hope this battle ends in the next chapter and we're offered some sort of closure in the other four chapters. I don't really care if Sora, Rika, or Ikki die, I don't really care how either. Ikki could be a martyr for his team. I just hope Kazu and Agito are offered some sort of satisfying ending, considering that their character development and battles have been far superior to anyone else in the manga. I'd also like to know what happens to Sleeping Forest. Why; because they, despite their lack of pages, are also infinitely more interesting than Sora, who somehow has managed to steal the spotlight of far more deserving individuals.

 

[Carnevil]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Who wants to bet me either Ringo or Ikki sacrifice themselves to save Rika? My bet is on Ringo doing something and right before the regalia explodes she'll say she admired Rika and with that little smile, then BOOM!!!

I love how the ultimate end battle turns into "You lose because I'm going to blow up two people you love" What OG couldn't have gone with the equally cliche'd "I poisoned you during the battle now your strength is fading."

Sora has turned out to be one of the worst end villains in the history of manga/comics.

 

[Brandnewkid]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Null Wind and Astral Magus are the same thing, so . . . Why the name change?

 

[Carnevil]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Null Wind and Astral Magus are the same thing, so . . . Why the name change?

Because this is Air Gear and tricks aren't legitimate unless they have some cool name (that doesn't describe them in the least) attached to them. Infinite Tremor Ensnaring Suffocation, Infinite turquoise Sonia, Numberless Grapple, Grand Fang Firebird, etc etc.

 

[DragonOsman2]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Actually, their names make sense if you look at the "shadows". The Sonia Road's "Infinite Chain - Turquoise Sonia" seems to have roses with an infinite chain of thorny wines being used by a female knight in turquoise armor; the Wing Road's "Moonstruck Numberless Grappler" has multiple reapers coming to attack with grappling attacks, and Kazu and Agito's combo "Grand Fang Firebird" really did look like a giant, flaming bird. They go together well.

And "Null Wind" wasn't the Trick's official name. They were using "Storm," but I guess that wasn't really the official name of the Trick, either. It's "Astral Magus".

Ringo or Ikki, neither of them is going to die unless OG wants to turn this into a Tragic Love Story. There's nothing in this manga, so far, that makes it seem anything like a Tragic Love Story. The both of them are the main focus, theirs is the main romance. If one of them dies, the manga will need a "Tragedy" tag. It already has the "Romance" tag on it, too. Rika dying is more likely than Ringo or Ikki dying. And if Ikki and Ringo can recover fast enough (emotionally, I mean), it'll also give them some more character development.

 

[Brandnewkid]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Because this is Air Gear and tricks aren't legitimate unless they have some cool name (that doesn't describe them in the least) attached to them. Infinite Tremor Ensnaring Suffocation, Infinite turquoise Sonia, Numberless Grapple, Grand Fang Firebird, etc etc.

Those names do loosely describe them though.

Infinite Tremor Ensaring Suffocation: Loosely refers to the "petrifying effect."

Infinite Turquoise Sonia: Mistranslation, "Sonia" is actually "Thornier."

Numberless Grappler: Refers to the countless number of "reapers" that grab on the wind when Ikki/Sora use the trick (wait, isn't this the name of the Regalia?)

Grand Fang Firebird: It's a phoenix created via the Fang Road and Kazu's flames.

 

[Carnevil]

Re: Air Gear 353 Discussion

Chinese scan of 353.

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1515487990

 

[Epic_Rider]

Re: Air Gear 353 Discussion

Seems to be some interesting developments this chapter.

I don't need to read Japanese to know what was on that piece of paper. Just when I think I can't hate Sora any more...

Also, I knew there was a reason OG avoided drawing Ikki's AT clearly the whole fight, but I did not expect the last page. Looking forward to next week.

 

[DragonOsman2]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Sonia is a name. A girls' name. In "Engurisu," yeah, you could say that "thornier" is pronounced as "sonia," but the name of the Thorn Queen's Road is still "Sonia Road". That's how it's always been written in the manga in the English translation. And, really, does "Turquoise Thornier" make any sense to you? It's "Turquoise Sonia".

As for the name of the Wind Regalia core, it's actually "Moonstruck Drop Bagram". According to Greek Mythology, the sky was made from moon drops, as Dr. Minami said to Sora when he gave him the newer Bagram (after combining into it those other 20 Regalia cores Sora had stolen from the Gravity Children he'd killed), hence the name of the Regalia and Infinity Atmosphere signature Trick.

Also, the only Road that has the same name as it's Regalia is the Flame Road. All of the others are written as having it are done for aesthetic purposes or something. Interchangeable. The Storm King's Road is the Hurricane Road, the Thorn Queen's Road is the Sonia Road, the Wind King's Road is the Wing Road, etc.

 

[suarhnir]

Re: Air Gear 353 Discussion

Seems to be some interesting developments this chapter.

I don't need to read Japanese to know what was on that piece of paper. Just when I think I can't hate Sora any more...

Also, I knew there was a reason OG avoided drawing Ikki's AT clearly the whole fight, but I did not expect the last page. Looking forward to next week.

oyos

well f***... ringo was wearing the regalia the entire time. and it isn't japanese, it is chinese from that teiba forum. if you see nothing but kanji, then it is chinese.

ah, but the loophole to use the storm regalia has been realized... it was ikki's rule for sora or ikki to not activate their regalias, but it turns out that neither of them were wearing the sky or storm regalia to begin with. at least we'll be able to see the storm regalia in action now. **its due to long 'plot twists' like this that i hesitate on assuming certain ideas, like ringo having a genuine thorn regalia - but it turns out true that she didn't have a genuine thorn regalia but instead the storm regalia which was disguised in kiric's design of the sub thorn regalia (or was at least in a 'thorn mode' until now).

on the sora-rika side, you would think that seeing sora rip the pregnancy results would be more of a heartbreaking moment for rika. she was still herself before the brain charger was awoken in her, yet she still behaved as though he didn't do that and had some faith in sora...

 

[Brandnewkid]

Re: Air Gear 352 Discussion/ 353 Predictions

Sonia is a name. A girls' name. In "Engurisu," yeah, you could say that "thornier" is pronounced as "sonia," but the name of the Thorn Queen's Road is still "Sonia Road". That's how it's always been written in the manga in the English translation. And, really, does "Turquoise Thornier" make any sense to you? It's "Turquoise Sonia".

Get off your high horse. I never said Sonia isn't a name. I'm well aware that it is a name. The name of the Road in the manga series Air Gear by Ogure Ito, however, is actually "Thornier Road." It can even be "Thornia Road" if you wanna get creative. The Edited Mangas just never realized it, so the whole fandom just stuck with "Sonia." The word "Sonia" has nothing to do with the road or thorn theme. Does "Turquoise Sonia" make sense to you? Maybe it does, because you don't realize that "Sonia" is a mistranslation. Oh!Great used "Thornier" because he's not an expert at English, but to anyone with a decent sense of Japanese-to-English translation it's clear that it's supposed to be "Thornier." The Thornier Road is the Road of Thorns; it comes from the Japanese phrase Ibara no Michi, which means "A road of thorns," referring to a path of struggles and pain, much like the road in question.

You can use whatever you want, but I'm letting you know that "Sonia" is a mistranslation. The Edited Mangas actually have quite a few mistranslations from the original Japanese version (quite a few lines of dialogue and jokes are messed up or omitted entirely), but I wouldn't want to criticize their work, as I'm grateful for the scans of the early half of the series.

Also, it seems I was wrong about Numberless Grappler. I thought the "Grappler" referred to the "reapers" shown when Ikki does the Trick. However, I forgot that in the Japanese version the Trick has an alternate Japanese name: Namonaki Kyōsō Kakutōshi-domo - Nameless Fighters' Frenzy. It actually does refer to grapplers, that is, in the martial arts sense.