Shounen Air Gear by Oh! Great

[CannedJam]

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oyos

i find it funny in communities for bleach and naruto, they argue some of the same things with the stats. its all fanboy/girl-ism really... they just don't like the idea of their fav character to be 'ranked' in such a way.

i agree with sabret00the and that those levels are nothing more than like a resume/cv. its only the scores based on what was proven and done, not their overall potential. the stats may not even be accurate because whatever prior situation didn't allow for the full display of such skills.

i think that the READ rankings of their battle levels are ratings based upon when the rider has actually 'battled' another rider. i believe ikki and agito (maybe kazu too) are much higher of a level but their previous battles were unbeneficial to their rating.

lets say that you gain battle levels by defeating someone with a higher level, you gain very little if you and your opponent are similar levels, and you gain nothing if your opponent's levels is less than your own. this doesn't even take into account whether you actually win the overall parts war battle.

Basically, what you're trying to say is: "At the end of the day it doesn't matter what the READ says, battle levels are impossible to determine because Stormriders are forever improving. That, or the ranking system for battle levels are different(facing somebody with a higher level, compared to somebody with a lower level)."

Am I right? If not please explain, XD.

 

[suarhnir]

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oyos

yes and no. yes that the levels are subject to change with the stormrider as he improves, no that you should outright disregard the READ stats.

and what i meant earlier on how you gain battle levels:
buccha's win over dontores would likely boost his battle level quite a bit.
if koga had won their match against white wolf (kururu's dad), they probably wouldn't gain any points. granted white wolf was b-class, they have only participated in i think 5 matches to reach b-class (always challenging b-class teams for a disk battle) so their battle levels would have still been lower.
if ikki and agito were to fight one another, whoever won would gain a few points.

these battle levels can only be accumulated from actual matches, but taking kazu for example, he trains the hardest and likely has a better mastering of his techniques so potentially he's very strong if he were to use them effectively in a battle. however, since he lacks any battles in which he's really had to use those skills (his fight with ikki being the only time he really went all out; he didn't even use all his tricks in the inorganic net match), his battle level is still lacking compared to ikki and agito. ikki has fought ringo, kazu, akira & mitsuru in which he went all out. agito fought akira & mitsuru, orca & caesar, and maybe some others when he was in his brother's squad that he went all out.

READ cannot calculate potential, it merely gives out stats based on tricks practiced and battles fought.

 

[garf03]

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new topic
Ok i dont know if im the only one who have reallize this but, after reading again some old chapters of AG (i was bored at work),

i came up with the cahpter where sora star to teach ikki that air.palm trick, and after reading this pages

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/118/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/118/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/118/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/118/16/
and in the last one, an image poped to my head, so i went back some charapters from the actuals one and found what i was looking for

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/244/07/

so with you ladys and gentelmens, "The creator of the bagram and sora Takeuchi's teacher"

what do u think about this?

 

[suarhnir]

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oyos

i remember that, but the thing is that the letters are different.

in orca's flashback, we have a guy who looks more like the one from sora's flashback (if its even real). the letters are different than whats on the guy making paper airplanes

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/118/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/194/008/ <- uncle minami

http://www.onemanga.com/Air_Gear/244/07/ <- paper airplane guy

the letters on the right hand that we see are different. even the left hand has different letters if you look at ch118's hand and compare to ch244's left hand.

there's a chance that uncle minami had cut his hair and changed the letters on his hand. it could also be another relative or a friend of uncle minami and the letters are something similar to sora and kiric's tattoos on their back, and that they are close knit. if you've seen boondock saints, the brothers have similar tattoos to one another since they are close to one another.
besides, the paper airplane guy seems a bit more friendly where as uncle minami has a kind of god-complex in 'creating geniuses'

 

[garf03]

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or meaby, they all are the sameperson just that the 2 ones are from the past and teh paper plane guy is the actual one (after a makeover)

 

[sabret00the]

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Changing a tattoo under your nails is nearly impossible.

 

[suarhnir]

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oyos

can you even get a tattoo under your fingernails to begin with? without having ripped off your finger nails to get to it...

i don't think paper airplane and uncle minami are the same person because they seem to act very different, from what little we've seen. also, paper airplane guy seems to have been working with jiggy for some time in the pr or marketing aspect. i think sora and his team would be at least on the curious side if they knew that uncle minami is out and about in the city doing the announcer stuff for the sleipnir/jiggy vs koga match (at the least would have made a mention, especially since they are watching the match - which is why they figured out sf was helping koga)

 

[sabret00the]

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Yup, it's possible: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080821193406AAeQY0y

 

[CannedJam]

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Yup, it's possible: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080821193406AAeQY0y

Possible, definitely possible, but waaaaay too painful. XD Almost as painful as if AG were to be cancelled(I had to make this horrible comparison so I stay relevant to the thread :P)

 

[Shrapnel]

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Paper airplane guy is doing the commentary, too. Perhaps the writings aren't tattoo ... it's just very good 3D nail art.

 

[sabret00the]

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Paper airplane guy is doing the commentary, too. Perhaps the writings aren't tattoo ... it's just very good 3D nail art.

Why would nail art need to be 3D?

 

[suarhnir]

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oyos

whether its nail art (which would make me question if the guy is gay) or nail tattoo, it is at least certain that the letters seen on paper airplane guy comprise of left: pinky-L, ring-?, middle-V, index-E, thumb-D, and right: thumb-D, index-E, middle-A, ring-R, pinky-dragon looking thing.

uncle minami has left: pinky-L, ring-V, middle-E, index-D, thumb-?, and right: thumb-D, index-D, middle-E, ring-V, pinky-L

so another reason as to why paper airplane guy is different from uncle minami is these different letters. any normal person who makes the effort to get something like nail art/tattoo would either constantly change the setup or keep the same thing every time. sora's flashback (real or not) shows uncle minami with the letters that i listed earlier, then orca's flashback (which would have taken place years later from sora's; quite possible it happened within the last year or two from the current story time based on orca's appearance) show's uncle minami with the same letters on his finger nails again.
now we have paper airplane guy who has different letters marked on his fingernails and a rather different appearance. another thing normal people do, if you wear a hat than it is likely you will do so often as its a preference of style even if its not necessary/practical to wear. sora for example has always been seen with a hat since leaving the tower and only when it gets blown off (or the one time he tossed his hat in memory of spitfire) will you see him without it. kazu is the same with his beanie. the flashbacks with uncle minami have him without a hat... paper airplane guy has been wearing one since he's made his appearance.

 

[Shrapnel]

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Why would nail art need to be 3D?

Because ... Japanese females enjoy 3D nail art. They even have those kind of machines to do them for ya on fake nails.

 

[warbandit66]

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I believe that Onigiri's speed when chasing Ringo was purely for comedy effect. How on earth will he stand up to the beasts in Genesis? He'll be mauled the moment one of them gets a whiff of him.

 

[sabret00the]

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I believe that Onigiri's speed when chasing Ringo was purely for comedy effect. How on earth will he stand up to the beasts in Genesis? He'll be mauled the moment one of them gets a whiff of him.

Well he's ok in short bursts, remember he lead the way against the rest of Koga in the 100m dash.

 

[warbandit66]

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Well he's ok in short bursts, remember he lead the way against the rest of Koga in the 100m dash.

You're right, but will that still be the case? Once he's short burst of speed has ended and his opponent catches him he's finished.

Sorry for posting this in the wrong thread.

 

[eni]

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If I had to cosplay that, I would stencil the letters. Takes a few seconds per nail and if you'd want to keep it you would repeat that maybe once a month while using the same stencils for it.

@Shrapnel
3D Nail Art is were the color pops out instead of being a mere painting. Doesn't make much sense for a person who's handcrafting frequently. The acrylic paint would break off. If it's on the nails, it's just a mere tattoo that grows out.

Under the nails, possible. But unlikely unless those guys had an accident were they lost the nails completely. Removing them is terribly painful.

the letters seen on paper airplane guy comprise of left: pinky-L, ring-?, middle-V, index-E, thumb-D, and right: thumb-D, index-E, middle-A, ring-R, pinky-dragon looking thing.

uncle minami has left: pinky-L, ring-V, middle-E, index-D, thumb-?, and right: thumb-D, index-D, middle-E, ring-V, pinky-L

So, PG has 'L?VED' and 'DEAR#'.

Minami has 'LVED?' and 'DDEVL'

I can read 'Dear Devil' and/or 'Lived Dear' or maybe 'Read' from PG, assuming that the missing one is an 'i' but Minami's makes no sense to me >.>;

But then again, I'm not uptodate with the manga to the point that I don't even know these guys, so just ignore my thoughts But feel free to spoil me, it's interesting.

 

[psycheamore]

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It's very possible that they're the same guy. Perhaps Oh!Great made a mistake? Or perhaps they are brothers? They could be the same guy coz the paper plan guy seems to know quite a lot and sounds very thoughtful... From his first appearance it was kinda obvious that he knows something... Perhaps Uncle Minami changed over the years??

 

[suarhnir]

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oyos

if uncle minami changed over the years, it would have been within the last 3 years at most given orca's flashback (orca looks relatively the same in his flashback so it can't be something that happened more than 2~3 years ago). god-complex to world revolutionary observer in the span of 3 years or less? unlikely without some drastic life altering incident.

while still possible that they are the same person, i'm still going with the theory that they are close friends, if not relatives. the similarities between uncle minami and paper airplane guy reminds me of sora and nike... and even those two are rather different from one another.

 

[psycheamore]

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And Sora and Nike remind me of Ikki... It's seems that Ikki and Uncle Minami are related, right??

If Uncle Minami gave Sora the Moonstruck Bagram core or something, then why did that weird old short guy have them? He did give it to Ikki right?

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Personally, I don't think they're close friends... perhaps brothers?