Shounen Air Gear by Oh! Great

[king_crimson-]

Re: Air Gear 344 Discussion/ 345 Predicitons

i just want to point out that sora has been using bagram like a psuedo-rumble regalia all this time, without an active engine, and used it to run on the wing road better than anybody else run any road other than kilik...in hindsight, all the hype about kururu combining the rumble core with the storm core was pretty stupid...

 

[Broken_Wing]

Re: Air Gear 344 Discussion/ 345 Predicitons

I remember when people started wondering if OG actually forgot how much he wanked the wind road in the early chapters, since the activation of the flame regalia and the development/combining of the fang/thorn road etc.

The Wing Road can now be seen once again as the source of all other roads...since whatever type of infinity atmosphere the other roads activate/run on, Wind King Sora can just take that change in air pressure and use it preform his wing road tricks without using his own energy.

It makes you think that the combo road tricks with Kiric and Blackburn in the inorganic net, he just used their own infinity atmosphere to create a wind trick to match the power of their individual attacks. Now imagine if he used his own power to generate the wind trick - he would have probably engulfed Kiric and Blackburn's infinity atmosphere like nothing. Its just crazy how he must have also snuffed out Spitfire's infinity atmosphere just by using the energy it released during its activation.

Can Ikki's Null Wind be applicable to combat Sora anymore...?

 

[Drylick]

Re: Air Gear 344 Spoiler Thread

Wow, he's fine with his leg being "gone" without using his full power? That sounds like.. madness.

Ok, first of all, it was all his plan from the beginning. He never powered ON his AT even if he lose his leg because that is his plan. He wants to get the other codes from the other Kings. Second, I'm thinking about this; He sacrificed his eyes and hearing in order to activate the Sky Regalia. What if activating the Sky Regalia also requires the sacrifice of the legs? There's a conversation of Sora and Aeon (I don't have that much time to browse the chapters and each pages), that his legs is just a tiny sacrifice in order to get the Sky Regalia. Well, that's just what I think.

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Can someone explain to me how this bullshit is possible?
It means that in the fight where he lost both his legs he did not use the batteries as well? BULLSHIT!
i hope @Ninja_Pirate be right next week and ikki open his fist and show he have no batteries either, but I know it will not happen.

It could happen. It's a Shounen Manga remember?

Basically, what Ikki has been doing all this time (exploiting other's wind/Infinity Atmosphere and using it as his own to power up his run even without him using the Wind's Road true ablilities; Null Wind for example), is what Takeuchi Sora has been doing also all along. In fact, Sora has been doing it all his freaking life. He never ever powered ON his AT and just used the other King's run to propel his. What a bad-ass. So basically, Ikki and Sora's way of fighting is the same. Sora is just on the negative side.

 

[Ninja_Pirate]

Re: Air Gear 344 Spoiler Thread

Ok, first of all, it was all his plan from the beginning. He never powered ON his AT even if he lose his leg because that is his plan. He wants to get the other codes from the other Kings. Second, I'm thinking about this; He sacrificed his eyes and hearing in order to activate the Sky Regalia. What if activating the Sky Regalia also requires the sacrifice of the legs? There's a conversation of Sora and Aeon (I don't have that much time to browse the chapters and each pages), that his legs is just a tiny sacrifice in order to get the Sky Regalia. Well, that's just what I think.

What i remember about his legs is... kilik was not the one who did that to him.. It was sora himself who cut his tendons of his leg.. since tendons put a limit on ones ability to run.. and he wanted to get rid of that limits and bounds on his run... which might also be the requirement of sky regalia...

What i cannot understand is .. the concept of gravity children was that they were the one experimented to be in high gravity regions and thus are so good with AT... how ikki is keeping up with them... I mean whoever we have seen keeping up later revealed to be either gravity child .. 2nd generation gravity child or at least having consciousness of a gravity child except for ikki bucca and kazu who have shown capabilities equivalent to gravity child... bucca is ok since he has done some mediattion thing which can be used to achieve high level of physical capabilities... kazu is light weight and was exceptionally gud with sprint from his childhood... what about ikki.. the only thing i know is he is tough because of constant beating from the sisters ... ./.. but what else is making him so special.. there must be some connection for it .. and that is what will be revealed for the next power up for ikki i guess...

 

[menino]

Re: Air Gear 344 Spoiler Thread

What i remember about his legs is... kilik was not the one who did that to him.. It was sora himself who cut his tendons of his leg.. since tendons put a limit on ones ability to run.. and he wanted to get rid of that limits and bounds on his run... which might also be the requirement of sky regalia...

where did you see that? i remember he fight if kilik. in the end you see the at destroyed;

 

[Zangetsu01]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

Chinese Edited Manga chapter 345
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1398609988

 

[Broken_Wing]

Re: Air Gear 344 Spoiler Thread

What i cannot understand is .. the concept of gravity children was that they were the one experimented to be in high gravity regions and thus are so good with AT... how ikki is keeping up with them... I mean whoever we have seen keeping up later revealed to be either gravity child .. 2nd generation gravity child or at least having consciousness of a gravity child except for ikki bucca and kazu who have shown capabilities equivalent to gravity child... bucca is ok since he has done some mediattion thing which can be used to achieve high level of physical capabilities... kazu is light weight and was exceptionally gud with sprint from his childhood... what about ikki.. the only thing i know is he is tough because of constant beating from the sisters ... ./.. but what else is making him so special.. there must be some connection for it .. and that is what will be revealed for the next power up for ikki i guess...

What about Yoshi who was making fun of a gravity child just by riding on cans...? Or Benkei who was keeping up with Om or Aeon challenging Gabishi..?

 

[ikkixringo]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

I didn't like this chapter poop now I have to wait another week for another possible disappointment

 

[suarhnir]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

oyos

wow... minami's disguise was rather stupid looking... and if this is supposed to be before they go after gazelle, then nike sure undergoes style changes rather fast. he has the longer and less wild hair like when he's older, but in the gazelle flashback, he's practically the same looking to sora. nike sure likes to change his appearance a lot or o!g really can't make up his mind about how to draw nike.

i can't read chinese but for some reason, the girl reminds me of pyon, and the two boys with her remind me of gawain and percival... i really need some japanese script...

 

[DragonOsman2]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

I keep getting the Bad Gateway message on that site, so I need a working link. Anyone? Please?

 

[helperalpar]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

Here is the English Scan od Ch. 345, enjoy !

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http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/77961_/page_1

 

[suarhnir]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

oyos

so this is after gazelle's death? now this is getting all sorts of confusing... he seems to have the drive at the end of this flashback as he did when he was in gazelle's flashback, yet he was just 'getting by' before bagram? i really want to see the original japanese script to confirm that line from minami. though from minami's side of things, the timing makes more sense that he's supporting sora now when in gazelle's flashback he was supporting gazelle.

 

[ghostexiled]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

So I am a bit confused...

was that Nike with the Chainsaw and mask? Did he kill the thugs and the other 2 that were witness to the beating that Sora got from them?

If Nike did kill those 2... why did he?

Why did those 2 have chainsaws too?

Sora left the chick that gave him the handkerchief alive because she was the only one to care about his predicament?

This chapter has just confused me even more as to what exactly Sora's mentality is behind his behavior.

He (like Nike) just seems like 2 little egoistical psychopaths with a "why me?" attitude.

I also don't even understand what the hell Minami's motivation or deal is in all of this.

 

[ghostexiled]

Air Gear 346 Discussion/ 347 Predictions

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[Carnevil]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

He's all boo face because some punks cut in line then beat him up. He murdered 20 people most of which were probably just trying to get a long like he was. He's just pathetic, OG had an opportunity to make him a good villain too. I'm not close to being an Ikki fan but now I just want him to monkey stop Sora's ass.

 

[menino]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

So I am a bit confused...

was that Nike with the Chainsaw and mask? Did he kill the thugs and the other 2 that were witness to the beating that Sora got from them?

If Nike did kill those 2... why did he?

Why did those 2 have chainsaws too?

Sora left the chick that gave him the handkerchief alive because she was the only one to care about his predicament?

This chapter has just confused me even more as to what exactly Sora's mentality is behind his behavior.

He (like Nike) just seems like 2 little egoistical psychopaths with a "why me?" attitude.

I also don't even understand what the hell Minami's motivation or deal is in all of this.

I have read and reread this chapter and still not making any sense in my head.

 

[DragonOsman2]

Re: Air Gear 345 Spoiler Thread

oyos

so this is after gazelle's death? now this is getting all sorts of confusing... he seems to have the drive at the end of this flashback as he did when he was in gazelle's flashback, yet he was just 'getting by' before bagram? i really want to see the original japanese script to confirm that line from minami. though from minami's side of things, the timing makes more sense that he's supporting sora now when in gazelle's flashback he was supporting gazelle.

Sora could've been lying to Ikki when he said he was just "getting by" back then, when he told him earlier about how he got Bagram.

@ghostexiled: Yes, Nike was the one who killed those guys. And the reason is that he was helping Sora take his "revenge". I'm not sure why those thugs had the chainsaws, though. Maybe for their own self-defense? In which this case they chickened out and couldn't do anything to help themselves. Idiotic cowards.

And yeah, I'm pretty sure Sora spared that girl because of the handkerchief and the fact that she helped him out. But what pissed me off there was that he said her soul was only worth as much as the weight of a handkerchief (isn't that really light?).

Of course, Sora has been thinking, since back then, that as one of the "failed experiments" or "defective goods," and therefore part of the 99% of the human population who are either failures or just really normal people who have to get by with hard work, he has a responsibility and destiny to help out that 99%. He's fighting Ikki because he considers him to be part of the talented 1%. Gazelle and Rika would also be considered part of the 1%, but he's using Rika to fight on his side.

To understand more, please either reread the last hundred or so chapters, or, better yet, the whole series.

@Carnevil: Agreed. Though I actually am close to being an Ikki fan.

 

[menino]

Re: Air Gear 345 Discussion/ 346 Predictions

i reread the whole serie this day, but still i can not understand this last chapters.
If he is so powerful why have all the trouble to regain the wind regalia?
im pissed about the regalia in the moment.

 

[ghostexiled]

Re: Air Gear 345 Discussion/ 346 Predictions

There is no reason for me to re-read the whole series....

I understood Sora's motivation the whole time up until he got the Sky regalia, afterwards his logic has been heavily clouded in a pool of weird and whining.

So he was a broken toy... welcome to the rest of the world.

He seems like a child that is upset and wants to take his toys and go home.

In other words, there is no logic behind his deeds. Besides being butt-hurt.

 

[warbandit66]

Re: Air Gear 345 Discussion/ 346 Predictions

I wonder what Oh! Great's story manuscripts where looking like before the occupy movement came along. He's really running with this whole thing.