Match Akutsu vs Shiraishi

[Hardy]

He didn't want to kick Sanada, the latter asked him to do so (because Sanada wanted to redeem himself).

Also, nothing says that the stats are Shiraishi's without the gaunlet, so as far as I know Akutsu and Shiraishi have 20 (until Konomi says otw).

Akutsu's weak mental strength makes him hit attacks in which he aims at the players body with his power. When Shiraishi increases his swing speed he will be able to see through Akutsu.

...that happenned in the first arc in PoT. He didn't do that at all in the last match.

 

[floman]

He didn't want to kick Sanada, the latter asked him to do so (because Sanada wanted to redeem himself).

Also, nothing says that the stats are Shiraishi's without the gaunlet, so as far as I know Akutsu and Shiraishi have 20 (until Konomi says otw).



...that happenned in the first arc in PoT. He didn't do that at all in the last match.

He acts the same as he did in the first arc of POT. We barely saw Aktsu hit any balls in this match so I would argue since there is nothing suggesting he has or has not changed, one must think that he hasn't changed (especially since outside of the court his persona is still violent).

Sanada asked him to slap him Aktsu kicked him. Akutsu was obviously trying to throw books at Ohmagari. His favorite phrase is don't order me around. He is the same person as in the first arc of POT.

I argued this before, but it wasn't really discussed. Shiraishi has perfectly balanced stats before he takes off his gauntlet. Since only certain components of his game are affected by the removal of the gauntlet, it would suggest that the change in stats would cause him to no longer have perfectly balanced stats (ergo he wouldn't have a 20 if the stats were without him wearing his gauntlet). He must have improved all of his stats through rigorous training from 3.5s to 4.0s.

 

[Kaoz]

Sanada asked him to slap him Aktsu kicked him. Akutsu was obviously trying to throw books at Ohmagari. His favorite phrase is don't order me around. He is the same person as in the first arc of POT.

Akutsu kicked Sanada because Sanada asked to be punished, but he didn't slap him to make it clear to Sanada that Sanada's not the person in charge in that doubles. If Sanada hadn't asked, Akutsu wouldn't have done anything. As for the Ohmagari thing, that's certainly true, but it didn't happen within the context of a match, so there's room for doubt in my mind. Sengoku commented that Akutsu's mentality in matches has changed, so I don't think Shiraishi could trick him into doing something stupid.

I also think that without the gauntlet, Shiraishi's stats are above 20, however I believe that Akutsu's flexibility is superior to Shiraishi's bible.

 

[floman]

Akutsu kicked Sanada because Sanada asked to be punished, but he didn't slap him to make it clear to Sanada that Sanada's not the person in charge in that doubles. If Sanada hadn't asked, Akutsu wouldn't have done anything. As for the Ohmagari thing, that's certainly true, but it didn't happen within the context of a match, so there's room for doubt in my mind. Sengoku commented that Akutsu's mentality in matches has changed, so I don't think Shiraishi could trick him into doing something stupid.

I also think that without the gauntlet, Shiraishi's stats are above 20, however I believe that Akutsu's flexibility is superior to Shiraishi's bible.

Spoiler

http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/4.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/3.html

Does this count? Akutsu is hitting at Ryoga after being provoked and it is with tennis balls.

Also I agree Akutsu's flexibility > Shiraishi's bible assuming equal stats. I think taking off the gauntlet pushes Shiraishi over Aktusu.

 

[Kaoz]

Spoiler

http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/4.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/3.html

Does this count? Akutsu is hitting at Ryoga after being provoked and it is with tennis balls.

Maybe? I could argue that because Akutsu has a special rival thing going on with Ryoma, Ryoga's words had more impact and so it doesn't. I really don't know though.

 

[floman]

Even still doesn't that show that he has some anger management problems that I think Shiraishi could exploit this.

I think one thing that we must be disagreeing on is how the removal of the gauntlet will affect Shiraishi's stats. In my opinion if Shiraishi's stats will increase by at least 2 thus giving him a big advantage over Akutsu.

 

[Kaoz]

Even still doesn't that show that he has some anger management problems that I think Shiraishi could exploit this.

Perhaps. It also depends on what you mean by exploit. I don't see Akutsu getting psychologically broken by being provoked a bit.

I think one thing that we must be disagreeing on is how the removal of the gauntlet will affect Shiraishi's stats. In my opinion if Shiraishi's stats will increase by at least 2 thus giving him a big advantage over Akutsu.

I think it's +3 personally, +1 Speed and +2 Stamina.

 

[floman]

I think it's +3 personally, +1 Speed and +2 Stamina.

I always thought swing speed meant power, sorry I didn't see you had said this before too.

That would mean he would be as fast as the fastest middle schooler. He would also have the most stamina of any middle schooler. I think that this combined with bible tennis would allow him to overcome Akutsu's flexibility. The only place in which Akutsu would exceed shiraishi is power which I think he could manage. Stats definitely matter.

 

[Kaoz]

I always thought swing speed meant power, sorry I didn't see you had said this before too.

That would mean he would be as fast as the fastest middle schooler. He would also have the most stamina of any middle schooler. I think that this combined with bible tennis would allow him to overcome Akutsu's flexibility. The only place in which Akutsu would exceed shiraishi is power which I think he could manage. Stats definitely matter.

No, remember that it's still arm speed and not leg speed. Shiraishi wouldn't be as fast as Kenya in terms of running by taking off the weight.

 

[floman]

So if the speed stat encompasses both swing speed and running speed, then would it also account for Akutsu's swing speed as a result of his flexibility?

 

[Kaoz]

So if the speed stat encompasses both swing speed and running speed, then would it also account for Akutsu's swing speed as a result of his flexibility?

No idea, we'd have to see his profile to know.

 

[Hardy]

Spoiler

http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/4.html
http://mangafox.me/manga/new_prince_of_tennis/v09/c092/3.html

Does this count? Akutsu is hitting at Ryoga after being provoked and it is with tennis balls.

So, you're saying that (because you found a recent page where Akutsu gets mad) Akutsu will try to hit Shiraishi in every single point of the match, and that's why Shiraishi will win?

 

[floman]

So, you're saying that (because you found a recent page where Akutsu gets mad) Akutsu will try to hit Shiraishi in every single point of the match, and that's why Shiraishi will win?

haha no I'm just saying that Shiraishi could get inside of Akutsu's head and force Akutsu to play to Shirashi's strong points. Without the calming presence of Banji, Akutsu could become uncontrollable when he gets mad.