American Politics

[SharkBait]

While you're not wrong about Popular Vote, it does give us an idea that there are more people who would prefer Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. In a way, there is hope, assuming Hillary isn't the candidate that is.

Democrats need to answer why less people voted in 2016 than in previous elections, why did they not mobilize their previous voter base.

 

[M3J]

Democrats need to answer why less people voted in 2016 than in previous elections, why did they not mobilize their previous voter base.

No, they need to come to terms that their corruption, Hillary's corruption, and Hillary being a weak candidate are why not many voters turned out this election. The main reason why as many people voted as they did, and why more people wanted Hillary, is because Trump is a far worse choice.

 

[Philia]

No, they need to come to terms that their corruption, Hillary's corruption, and Hillary being a weak candidate are why not many voters turned out this election. The main reason why as many people voted as they did, and why more people wanted Hillary, is because Trump is a far worse choice.

If that's true then Democrats won't have any problem winning in 2020, don't you think?

While you're not wrong about Popular Vote, it does give us an idea that there are more people who would prefer Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. In a way, there is hope, assuming Hillary isn't the candidate that is.

People preferred Al Gore over Bush. That didn't stop Bush from winning 2nd term(In popular vote too) despite the amount of issues he raised. And I think Kerry was a good guy.

Democratic candidates are elected by vote

Nope. They are elected by donors and media. And super delegates too.

Someone nameless AND boring?

Senator Sanders was unknown an year ago.....Also there are a lot of wall street backed Democrats like current Senate Minority leader....if they get him to run Trump will destroy him.

Warren is a good candidate but I doubt she'll run.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Democrats need to answer why less people voted in 2016 than in previous elections, why did they not mobilize their previous voter base.

Agreed, that was a hint that tells you where things could really go wrong.

People preferred Al Gore over Bush. That didn't stop Bush from winning 2nd term(In popular vote too) despite the amount of issues he raised. And I think Kerry was a good guy.

I can't say that Kerry was a great candidate, since I don't know how he performed in the election. But at least Bush wasn't going around bragging about grabbing women's pussies, say shit about Mexican immigrants, and start meaningless beef with celebrities and the media.
I suppose it all depends on his performances and who's going to be the Democratic Nominee by 2020, but it's not even a month after his presidency, and Trump's approval rating is falling.

 

[Philia]

I can't say that Kerry was a great candidate, since I don't know how he performed in the election. But at least Bush wasn't going around bragging about grabbing women's pussies, say shit about Mexican immigrants, and start meaningless beef with celebrities and the media.
I suppose it all depends on his performances and who's going to be the Democratic Nominee by 2020, but it's not even a month after his presidency, and Trump's approval rating is falling.

I don't know what kind of candidate Kerry was, but he can't be worse than Bush. Also, he actually looks like a decent bloke to me. And Bush didn't start meaningless beef with celebrities but he did start meaningless wars with countries. If Bush can get reelected so can Trump

 

[xi0]

I feel like one of the few people on the internet that is actually willing to give Mr Trump and his picks a chance. They have yet to initiate any sort of policy or changes that would give support to the thoughts that they are not qualified, or doing things to prevent poor kids from going to school, or ruining and destorying lives of citizens borne in our homeland.

You seemed to not understand the point of the nomination process then. By your logic it shouldn't matter what body of work a person has, only that they were nominated and should be "given a chance". We have enough inept and bullshit bureaucracy, and that's even with people who have good intentions.

End? To undermine the US institutions if necessary and push his own agenda by whatever means necessary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...american-court-system/?utm_term=.47542d415f12

Maybe the US court systems have enough checks and balances to keep trump in check, to an extent, but if he tells people that the court system is corrupt and doesn't work and all that stuff then people are absolutely going to take it seriously. He is effectively attacking US institutionality... If he successfully damages that, it will take a generation to fix it....

Undermine them how though? I understand propagandist tactics, but Trump's only job in regards to the SCOTUS is to nominate people for vacancies. He's not going to nominate someone in order to undermine the court's status as an institution. So he can cry and bellyache all he wants, it doesn't change the interpretation of the the law. And that's the entire point of the Judicial Branch - judicial review. And it is in insanely powerful.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

I don't know what kind of candidate Kerry was, but he can't be worse than Bush. Also, he actually looks like a decent bloke to me. And Bush didn't start meaningless beef with celebrities but he did start meaningless wars with countries. If Bush can get reelected so can Trump

Well, the difference between Bush and Trump is enormous. It's still a possibility that Trump can get reelected, but it depends how the 2020 Election plays out and how Trump performs in his first term (which is doubtful that he's going to overturn it with his policies and ego).


In other news: U.S. Raids in Yemen was a failure, but Trump wants to call it a "Success". Yes, it's successful if your aim is to kill 23 civilians (including Women and Children), and a US soldier was killed in vain as well. So much for keeping America Safe...

 

[SharkBait]

Reasons Im republican, they help people the most. Not democrats.

 

[M3J]

If that's true then Democrats won't have any problem winning in 2020, don't you think?


People preferred Al Gore over Bush. That didn't stop Bush from winning 2nd term(In popular vote too) despite the amount of issues he raised. And I think Kerry was a good guy.

Nope. They are elected by donors and media. And super delegates too.

Senator Sanders was unknown an year ago.....Also there are a lot of wall street backed Democrats like current Senate Minority leader....if they get him to run Trump will destroy him.

Warren is a good candidate but I doubt she'll run.

Depends. If democrats nominate bad candidates like Hillary again, then they might have problems winning. Plus, you have Trump supporters who think any news criticizing Trump is fake, while pro-Trump news are real no matter how fake, so that'll be in Trump's favor. Democrats need to give people a reason to go out and vote, and not act as if they got the election in the bag. They fucked up, and we paid for it with Trump.

Reasons Im republican, they help people the most. Not democrats.

THat was the republican party of old, before they switched and became like democrats of the old. Now, republicans won't help anyone but themselves and will destroy the economy if it benefits them.

 

[Philia]

Depends. If democrats nominate bad candidates like Hillary again, then they might have problems winning. Plus, you have Trump supporters who think any news criticizing Trump is fake, while pro-Trump news are real no matter how fake, so that'll be in Trump's favor. Democrats need to give people a reason to go out and vote, and not act as if they got the election in the bag. They fucked up, and we paid for it with Trump.

THat was the republican party of old, before they switched and became like democrats of the old. Now, republicans won't help anyone but themselves and will destroy the economy if it benefits them.

Republican party didn't like trump but they played it fair unlike the democrats. I'll give them credit for that. They did stick with Trump. And didn't fixed their primaries with super delegates like the dems.

 

[Aonori]

You couldn't be more wrong than this.

No seriously he doesnt and by his own quoting I suspect he would rather take the saudis oil for free than to accept any of their BS and his past tweets to the saudi prince showcase if anything animosity lol, if the saudis started to appease the US then maybe.

But LMAO at trump pleasing the saudis thats too rich I wanna laugh just thinking on it.

 

[Philia]

No seriously he doesnt and by his own quoting I suspect he would rather take the saudis oil for free than to accept any of their BS and his past tweets to the saudi prince showcase if anything animosity lol, if the saudis started to appease the US then maybe.

Then ask yourself why KSA not included in that list? Why he raided Yemen? And why he signed a bill to sell weapons to KSA when Obama stopped doing.

 

[Aonori]

Yes he does, why else did he try to interfere in yemen war and not include them on his terror list?


Why would i need to go there to know that in fact, almost whole Iraq is freed from Isis now and only the kurdish gained real ground on isis in syria (the kurdish being backed up by the US)?
That is just a fact.

The one power fighting ISIS was US+kurdish fighter and to a lesser extent other rebel groups in syria.

There is absolutely no ground to work together with russia on such conflicts as long as they create tensions with US allies and annex countries in europe.

And as long as they do that, the sanctions have to be intact.
That is one of the conflicts you cannot solve with military.
You can and should have nato units in eastern europe so the fate of ukraine will not be repeated in the baltic states, but that's about it.

A lot of facts sometimes need fact checking research to bout and we should do it proactively ourselves and by cheking multiple sources before starting to call anything facts.

Russia doesnt need to create any tensions in Europe, Europe itself can do that by accepting refugees and have the majority of them turn radical and destroy Europe from the inside out with civil anarchy, I think I already explained on how much that was actually having a eff, btw, my old teachers no longer want to do school trips to Paris due to the tensions with refugees there, which is a very good indicator of how bad the things there are (this part is a actual checked fact btw), so yeah, I dont know how Russia could possibly due better than this, unless they start WW3, which they clearly dont want started to begin with lol.

 

[M3J]

Republican party didn't like trump but they played it fair unlike the democrats. I'll give them credit for that. They did stick with Trump. And didn't fixed their primaries with super delegates like the dems.

They never played it fair, they tried to screw Trump during the primaries but he was too popular for it to work.

A lot of facts sometimes need fact checking research to bout and we should do it proactively ourselves and by cheking multiple sources before starting to call anything facts.

If more people did this, Trump would not have become a president nor be even remotely trusted. This "suggestion" seems to go against your best interest if you truly do support Trump.

 

[Aonori]

They never played it fair, they tried to screw Trump during the primaries but he was too popular for it to work.

If more people did this, Trump would not have become a president nor be even remotely trusted. This "suggestion" seems to go against your best interest if you truly do support Trump.

If more people had read this book, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump:_The_Art_of_the_Deal, Trump would´ve had a easier time winning the election, but then again why would most try that, when they can just check on how Hillary Clinton is poor president material and instead go for a better pick in their minds? I know the latter is easier.

And they would´ve a better grasp on how exactly Trump´s make America Great Again, was going to go on about, it certainly would´ve made a lot of stuff easier.

Not like the other candidates had much for trusting, going in for them either.

 

[Onyx Darkmatter]

Reasons Im republican, they help people the most. Not democrats.

Except the party is dead long ago. If they really were "for the People", then I would've accepted the Party of Lincoln ages ago. Now, the FYP party is filled with nothing but theocratic crooks who're no better than the Democrats.

 

[M3J]

If more people had read this book, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump:_The_Art_of_the_Deal, Trump would´ve had a easier time winning the election, but then again why would most try that, when they can just check on how Hillary Clinton is poor president material and instead go for a better pick in their minds? I know the latter is easier.

And they would´ve a better grasp on how exactly Trump´s make America Great Again, was going to go on about, it certainly would´ve made a lot of stuff easier.

Not like the other candidates had much for trusting, going in for them either.

Nah, if people read the book and fact checked, they'd know it and Trump are full of shit. Trump cheats businesses, called bankrupt many times, and is likely wealthy enough only because of his dad's money. Trump supporters not fact checking anything and being easily brainwashed are literally the main reason why Trump won. I mean, a lot of them constantly used silly videos from biased accounts as sources of Hillary being wicked or whatnot. Trump is not even a remotely decent pick, Hillary is easily superior.

So far, Trump is not making America great again. He proposed $14 billion of taxpayers money into building the dumb wall, but did he ever suggest using that to help the homeless vets? Especially when his entire cabinet could pay for the wall easily?

 

[kkck]

Well, the person who actually wrote the art of the deal made the point that trump himself was a bit of a dumbass and he regretted ever working on it. It's all over the internet...

 

[shionoro]

A lot of facts sometimes need fact checking research to bout and we should do it proactively ourselves and by cheking multiple sources before starting to call anything facts.

Russia doesnt need to create any tensions in Europe, Europe itself can do that by accepting refugees and have the majority of them turn radical and destroy Europe from the inside out with civil anarchy, I think I already explained on how much that was actually having a eff, btw, my old teachers no longer want to do school trips to Paris due to the tensions with refugees there, which is a very good indicator of how bad the things there are (this part is a actual checked fact btw), so yeah, I dont know how Russia could possibly due better than this, unless they start WW3, which they clearly dont want started to begin with lol.

I tend to factcheck the things i say.

Russia creates tensions in europe with almost all of its neighbours.
We have ukraine, we have georgia, we have the baltic states, we have moldowa.
All of those states, in different shapes and forms, get bullied by russia.

The refugees are in germany and to a lesser extent in sweden, austria and some other states.
Where they are not is eastern europe, and guess what: Germany is pretty fine, while eastern and southern europe isnt (and only greek is really hit by the refugee crisis, but that is true since decades.

In any case: It IS russia creating tensions in europe.
They spout propaganda too in eastern europe, propaganda even you seem to believe if you think europe suddenly got unsafe or chaotic just due to some refugees (i am from germany, where are the tensions? Our rightwing party is at 10% and falling).

If your teachers do not want to do school trips to paris because of refugees they are really stupid people, sorry to be so blunt.
There are not even a lot of them in Paris, and they are not more prone to crime than any other group. The terror attacks in paris were committed by people legally staying there who majorly had nothing to do with the refugee crisis.

Come to germany. Germany is one of the safest countries in the world and we took almost a million refugees. i will personally lead you through cologne or aix la chapelle (two towns who took lots of them) and you can see for yourself.

 

[M3J]

https://t.co/MehqZWbReh


hahaha fuck Trump and his unconstitutional, unAmerican bullshit. He tweeted about this on Twitter, in all caps.