Oh look, another person who is paid for people watching his shit doing things that people like to see regardless of substance or value.
What a shocker.
Next thing you know is that sports reporters hype up plays that are not all that exciting 0.0
My point is the whole narrative of "Russia has something on Trump" is propaganda purposely used by establishment Dems. If they spent as much time reading the emails and forcing accountability in their own party they would be better and stronger for it. Instead you have the same people rubber stamping Trump cabinet picks.
The corporate media is clearly pushing this narrative strongly and has been since the Wiki leaks came out. It's been all about Russia but pay no attention to what Wikileaks reveals was going on behind the scenes in the DNC.
- If someone hacks into a large Bank and reveals them doing immoral near illegal practices and its revealed publicly via Wikileaks. Then the Bank ends up taking a hit financially and some people are forced to retire from their positions and people get fired. Then the Bank makes a statement that all this financial mess is due to hackers and how they need to be greater focus on security while avoiding public accountability for their own illicit activities.
It's called spinning! "Pay no attention to what I did only on who may have revealed it "
Trump knew about the talks, he was informed about then, but he denied knowing anything about it.
That is a proven lie, and chances are that this runs much deeper than we know by now.
So this all happened before the actual leaks sabotaging Hillary happened? Ok thats interesting, but that investigation needs a lot of work into, also I dont think I like this Moran guy much, there´s intel here that accuses him of being a bit too radical: http://savejersey.com/2015/07/tom-moran-scott-garrett/
So I´m to assume he´s a leftist source right? If so I´m worried, that this news page of his might not be much acurate with reality at all (but I will be awary of anything else new coming up on this matter) and I say this because I watch other right news sources saying Trump is being sabotaged from the inside, so which one is the more near the truth here?
It´s possible but how much exactly? I feel that could turn into left overthinking quite quick, I mean if we look at the right overthinking, they believe 3 million ilegal aliens voted in the election, because of a non proven twit, I will take both of these with a grain of salt, eitherway, the leaks didnt seem to have had much of danger into it, worse case scenario the russians did mess bigly with a US election, but it was the dems fault for getting a candidate with a lot to be exposed on, but hey I can respect Trump paying for this, as soon as Hillary goes to jail with Bill Clinton, for their crimes, for the sake of fairness and all.
I dont mind doing it, but not by that page alone, sorry, there´s stuff lacking, a lot of stuff and the website says that I should only take their work as focused "on developing a real-time approach to reporting news, sports and entertainment content that’s most relevant to New Jerseyans for consumption across all platforms and devices." So it´s news coming up from a New Jerseyan source for New Jerseyan consumers about something consideering relevant to the entire of the US, for all I know this entire news could take a completely diferent POV in another state, due to consumer reasons, or other, so I can understand how it might sound legit to the New Jerseyans, (or some of them) but not necessarily to me or the rest of the US, or some american people across diferent states.
I mean c´mon, imagine if a rightist suddently wrote down a news article on how Trump was actually being sabotaged from the inside out of his administration in a diferent state, or how Robart is a Soros lawyer, I seriously doubt you would accept that as any real news (especially if the author had radical rightist rep), so I wouldnt agree 100% with both of those cases right off the bat.
Oh look, another person who is paid for people watching his shit doing things that people like to see regardless of substance or value.
What a shocker.
Next thing you know is that sports reporters hype up plays that are not all that exciting 0.0
Fake news want to get consumers hooked, it´s only natural, it´s the consumer´s fault if he just accepts every news throwned at him as real right off the bat. But this goes on for both left and right.
I did the math now: By now, we got 33% funding from non US Nato members, with the increase we'd have roughly 40% funding by nonnatomembers (even a tad more because Britain is already spending more and germany promised to spend more than 2%).
That still might not sound like much, but as i said, it actually is.
The fact that any mission requires US assistance is THE PROBLEM, if that stays the same we can do away with the Nato already, then it could just be the 'US defense promise' or something like that.
A raise to 4% is not necessary in any way, even the US (whose military is more expensive than that of most nato states had to be due to airship carriers) has only 3.2% of their GDP.
A raise to 2% is enough to have all Nato members have an effective army in which their soldiers are welltrained and wellequipped.
That is enough and it should go without saying that we should aim for that.
In the state that most nato member's armies are right now, they are not much better than having no army at all.
An EU army is not the worst thing in the world and it might happen at some point, it would simply make it easier to assign missions and organize military movement.
Noone in the EU wants to exchange Nato for that, however. It would rather be a way to effectively organize EU forces to actually be able to fullfill requirements of Nato missions (or even nato independend missions).
I admit that it is a long shot until then, but there are steps taken to at least lay the groundwork for it right now.
If Trump goes on and on about clinton's emails or Podesta's emails which were similarly leaked, then really, it is no time to cry foul right now.
Leaks were always welcome when they suited him.
Well, yeah, that is more or less the numbers I got earlier (currently US is 66% of nato and with the increase it would be 62).
I don't see how that increase is enough to make things significantly different from what they are now. It would be another thing if the entire EU was worth, say, 50% of nato but that is not something you get with a mere 2% out of every country. I mean, all of nato combined is a bit over the US GDP. WIth that in mind, you'd need every nato member to put just under 3.6% of their GDP to make one US as far as military spending is concerned. Besides, the point can't be specifically to have every member armed anyways. That specifically won't make that big a difference (not to mention the huge drain it would be on those country's economies, I would venture a guess and think the EU would have to change a few monetary policies for this to have a chance of working).
Seriously, trump bitching about the leaks is nothing short of asinine. He didn't just welcome the hillary leaks, he encouraged russia to hack the US... The whole situation is downright laughable.
My point is the whole narrative of "Russia has something on Trump" is propaganda purposely used by establishment Dems. If they spent as much time reading the emails and forcing accountability in their own party they would be better and stronger for it. Instead you have the same people rubber stamping Trump cabinet picks.
The corporate media is clearly pushing this narrative strongly and has been since the Wiki leaks came out. It's been all about Russia but pay no attention to what Wikileaks reveals was going on behind the scenes in the DNC.
- If someone hacks into a large Bank and reveals them doing immoral near illegal practices and its revealed publicly via Wikileaks. Then the Bank ends up taking a hit financially and some people are forced to retire from their positions and people get fired. Then the Bank makes a statement that all this financial mess is due to hackers and how they need to be greater focus on security while avoiding public accountability for their own illicit activities.
It's called spinning! "Pay no attention to what I did only on who may have revealed it "
I get that this is your point, but your point is wrong.
This is not about corporate media or any of such bullshit. Trump and his circle actually did these things, visibly, even with videos and fotos from his hotel.
Blame the democrats all you want, but this has nothign to do with the DNC or hillary clinton, this is an ACTUAL scandal, because it is not about the infighting of a party but about an outside power manipulating your vote and your president condoning it and lying about it.
Wiki leaks is, by now, a political instrument used not for transparency but to attack certain targets. We can see that they hold their feet about trump.
We can also see trump was very happy about leaks before it converned him personally.
Say about Clinton and the DNC what you want, but THIS is a whole other level than the infighting of a party and some POTENTIAL safety risk that was not even provable wrongdoing.
It is amazing how people still want to deflect blame from trump by an old story about the DNC that may or may not have impacted sanders.
Oh those evil democrats, they MIGHT have let the worse candidate run and lost. Those evil masterminds.
That totally legitimizes the president to be russia's pet and lie to the public about it.
Well, yeah, that is more or less the numbers I got earlier (currently US is 66% of nato and with the increase it would be 62).
I don't see how that increase is enough to make things significantly different from what they are now. It would be another thing if the entire EU was worth, say, 50% of nato but that is not something you get with a mere 2% out of every country. I mean, all of nato combined is a bit over the US GDP. WIth that in mind, you'd need every nato member to put just under 3.6% of their GDP to make one US as far as military spending is concerned. Besides, the point can't be specifically to have every member armed anyways. That specifically won't make that big a difference (not to mention the huge drain it would be on those country's economies, I would venture a guess and think the EU would have to change a few monetary policies for this to have a chance of working).
Seriously, trump bitching about the leaks is nothing short of asinine. He didn't just welcome the hillary leaks, he encouraged russia to hack the US... The whole situation is downright laughable.
As i said, the thing as that a lot of nato states have completely useless militaries, and this has to stop.
An increase of 10% points from basically 32 to 41 (it is slightly below 33 and slightly above 41 even if we assume that all countries dont exceed 2%) is a huge thing, because obviously the US output stays the same and the whole sum gets even bigger.
We are talking about equipment that does not work in, for example, the german and italian military. They have to use eqipment which is, at best, unreliable and they cannot do any task withotu requiring extensive support. These 10% might not sound much, but they are vital for that.
It is the few bucks difference between only the parts of a car that do not drive and a car that does drive.
Seriously, trump bitching about the leaks is nothing short of asinine. He didn't just welcome the hillary leaks, he encouraged russia to hack the US... The whole situation is downright laughable.
So this all happened before the actual leaks sabotaging Hillary happened? Ok thats interesting, but that investigation needs a lot of work into, also I dont think I like this Moran guy much, there´s intel here that accuses him of being a bit too radical: http://savejersey.com/2015/07/tom-moran-scott-garrett/
So I´m to assume he´s a leftist source right? If so I´m worried, that this news page of his might not be much acurate with reality at all (but I will be awary of anything else new coming up on this matter) and I say this because I watch other right news sources saying Trump is being sabotaged from the inside, so which one is the more near the truth here?
Look: The actual source are sources INSIDE the whitehouse, actual ministries and actual people who have warned trump about Flynn before this controversy broke lose.
It is a fact that it happened.
Trump is ON VIDEO while denying that he was informed about it even tho it is proven by now that he was.
Please just concede that Trump actually lied. It does not get more obvious and waterproof than this.
Fake news want to get consumers hooked, it´s only natural, it´s the consumer´s fault if he just accepts every news throwned at him as real right off the bat. But this goes on for both left and right.
Look: The actual source are sources INSIDE the whitehouse, actual ministries and actual people who have warned trump about Flynn before this controversy broke lose.
It is a fact that it happened.
Trump is ON VIDEO while denying that he was informed about it even tho it is proven by now that he was.
Please just concede that Trump actually lied. It does not get more obvious and waterproof than this.
Yes, but this doesn't go for me and it doesn't have to go for you if you stop trusting that kind of youtube personas.
You mean the same guys, rightists are saying to be betraying trump? I have a hard time believing anything coming out of radical leftists or rightists without further evidence and this wouldnt be the first time, the radical left would be caught lying on trump.
Just do body language on those youtube personas and you get them exposed right off the bat, thats what I do, it helps a lot
You mean the same guys, rightists are saying to be betraying trump? I have a hard time believing anything coming out of radical leftists or rightists without further evidence and this wouldnt be the first time, the radical left would be caught lying on trump.
Just do body language on those youtube personas and you get them exposed right off the bat, thats what I do, it helps a lot
But... this isn't about radical left or right. The leaks are in fact from inside the white house, even trump is complaining about those... Heck, even trump doesn't deny the leaks are real (as I said earlier, he complains that the leaks are illegal, not fake).
But... this isn't about radical left or right. The leaks are in fact from inside the white house, even trump is complaining about those... Heck, even trump doesn't deny the leaks are real (as I said earlier, he complains that the leaks are illegal, not fake).
Trump is complaining because the leaks are sabotaging his administration and I wonder if these leaks have anything behind them, like Obama expanding the NSA's power a few days before leaving office just to sabotage the trump administration, I dont like this sort of moves and the leaks in question are sabotaging other operations set up by the trump administration especially military ones, this sounds like treason to me.
And I know the leaks are real but what I want to know is how deep they go, with no overthinking (especially on the russians again). It's seriously starting to become a meme.
Eitherway I have a pretty good grasp of the situation to assume radicals are involved in this sort of sabotage, this doesnt look like any sort of reasonable undermining, so this has a radical hand into it, if the leaks were coming from non radicals this whole thing would be a completely different story (like Snowden and Assange's case).
Trump is complaining because the leaks are sabotaging his administration and I wonder if these leaks have anything behind them, like Obama expanding the NSA's power a few days before leaving office just to sabotage the trump administration, I dont like this sort of moves and the leaks in question are sabotaging other operations set up by the trump administration especially military ones, this sounds like treason to me.
And I know the leaks are real but what I want to know is how deep they go, with no overthinking (especially on the russians again). It's seriously starting to become a meme.
Eitherway I have a pretty good grasp of the situation to assume radicals are involved in this sort of sabotage, this doesnt look like any sort of reasonable undermining, so this has a radical hand into it, if the leaks were coming from non radicals this whole thing would be a completely different story (like Snowden and Assange's case).
I don't think any of the leaks yet have come close to sabotaging military operations. Besides, no amount of leakers can ever do to trump what trump did to himself at mar a lago... What radicals? The leaks so far only talk about how his administration works on the inside (or rather doesn't work). Even if it is radicals, what difference would it make? Trump is giving them the easiest plausible fodder, him and his administration having not even a bit of a clue of what they are doing. At this point they have done more good than bad considering the flynn thing (which is something people ought to know about).
Mulvaney, a conservative Republican from South Carolina, faced opposition from Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John McCain. McCain, R-Ariz., took issue with Mulvaney’s past support of defense cuts as well as his 2011 vote to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan.
I will vote to oppose Congressman Mulvaney’s nomination because it would be irresponsible to place the future of the defense budget in the hands of a person with such a record and judgment on national security,” McCain said.
So Jason Chaffetz, the same person who wanted to investigate Hillary Clinton throughout last year's campaign, refused to investigate the Leaks from the Trump Administration. So much for "The Investigator"...
So Jason Chaffetz, the same person who wanted to investigate Hillary Clinton throughout last year's campaign, refused to investigate the Leaks from the Trump Administration. So much for "The Investigator"...
Well, would any of the leaks be illegal? From what I can tell at least some of them would be protected under the whistleblower laws or whatever. I am not aware of any specific leak that concerns national security and whatnot.... Most of them are just people close to the administration that are commenting on how incompetent and clueless the administration is. What am I missing here?
Well, would any of the leaks be illegal? From what I can tell at least some of them would be protected under the whistleblower laws or whatever. I am not aware of any specific leak that concerns national security and whatnot.... Most of them are just people close to the administration that are commenting on how incompetent and clueless the administration is. What am I missing here?
The Leaks that revolves around the contacts that the Trump Administration did with Russia. Still haven't gotten the whole story about it yet, so I'm very limited on what exactly went wrong. But it does sound like an issue that does need to be taken serious, if it happens to be true.
The Leaks that revolves around the contacts that the Trump Administration did with Russia. Still haven't gotten the whole story about it yet, so I'm very limited on what exactly went wrong. But it does sound like an issue that does need to be taken serious, if it happens to be true.
Well, that should absolutely be taken seriously. Though the investigation should focus primarily on good old Flynn rather than the whistleblower. I mean, the flynn thing was serious enough for trump to ask for the guy's resignation. I just don't think the issue is the leaks themselves but rather what flynn actually said to the russian guy...
You mean the same guys, rightists are saying to be betraying trump? I have a hard time believing anything coming out of radical leftists or rightists without further evidence and this wouldnt be the first time, the radical left would be caught lying on trump.
Just do body language on those youtube personas and you get them exposed right off the bat, thats what I do, it helps a lot
No. I mean that Trump knew that those peopel comitted treason and lied about it.
The evidence is already submitted by sources from the whitehouse, there is nothing radical about that.
It is proven that trump lied about not knowing about flynn's talks with russia.
And no, i am not a person who believes in frauds just because youtube people do it, sorry.
I get that this is your point, but your point is wrong.
This is not about corporate media or any of such bullshit. Trump and his circle actually did these things, visibly, even with videos and fotos from his hotel.
Blame the democrats all you want, but this has nothign to do with the DNC or hillary clinton, this is an ACTUAL scandal, because it is not about the infighting of a party but about an outside power manipulating your vote and your president condoning it and lying about it.
Wiki leaks is, by now, a political instrument used not for transparency but to attack certain targets. We can see that they hold their feet about trump.
We can also see trump was very happy about leaks before it converned him personally.
Say about Clinton and the DNC what you want, but THIS is a whole other level than the infighting of a party and some POTENTIAL safety risk that was not even provable wrongdoing.
It is amazing how people still want to deflect blame from trump by an old story about the DNC that may or may not have impacted sanders.
Oh those evil democrats, they MIGHT have let the worse candidate run and lost. Those evil masterminds.
That totally legitimizes the president to be russia's pet and lie to the public about it.
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The points you don't pick up are not obvious and wont be advertised in the corporate media channels. As long as you continue to eat what they feed you, you will never get close to the truth. Trying to pretend Wikileaks which has a proven track record of being a political tool just because you are in denial that Hillary & the DNC are incapable of doing anything wrong is foolish.
Just because the Republicans are horrible and you hate Trump doesn't automatically mean every big name Democrat is an honorable servant of the people. Corruption exists in both parties and ignoring the corruption in the DNC while yelling at Trump will not improve anything. Trump only got to where he is because the establishment leadership of the DNC was so incompetent, complacent and out touch with the people that they cant even communicate with blue collar workers and young people anymore. Probably cause many of them are millionaires too busy serving their donors and not their constituents.
The points you don't pick up are not obvious and wont be advertised in the corporate media channels. As long as you continue to eat what they feed you, you will never get close to the truth. Trying to pretend Wikileaks which has a proven track record of being a political tool just because you are in denial that Hillary & the DNC are incapable of doing anything wrong is foolish.
No. Wikileaks, since some time by now, chooses its targets carefully. That has nothing to do with clinton alone.
Wikileaks pulls a lot of shit, from not covering some things (like anything regarding russia since some time by now), to exposing people who have done nothing wrong to danger by carelessly releasing mails from people who live in autocrat societies who will definitely get problems due to that.
Does your hate on clinton and the DNC make you blind to see that Wikileaks chooses its targets by now?
Just because the Republicans are horrible and you hate Trump doesn't automatically mean every big name Democrat is an honorable servant of the people. Corruption exists in both parties and ignoring the corruption in the DNC while yelling at Trump will not improve anything. Trump only got to where he is because the establishment leadership of the DNC was so incompetent, complacent and out touch with the people that they cant even communicate with blue collar workers and young people anymore. Probably cause many of them are millionaires too busy serving their donors and not their constituents.
I never said any democrat is honorable. Why do you want to deflect absolutely reasonable criticism of Trump with democrats?
You are the one who is talking abotu democrats when your president is likely to have at least helped other people to commit an HUGE safety risk at best and treason at worst?
Trump got where he is because of character assassination, stupidity and seemingly foreign influence taking.
A weak democratic candidate cannot explain a completely incompetent and corrupted leader, at least not alone.
And don't give me the millionaire and blue collar talk when they elect a guy who is one himself and abuses his workers more than most.
I never said any democrat is honorable. Why do you want to deflect absolutely reasonable criticism of Trump with democrats?
You are the one who is talking abotu democrats when your president is likely to have at least helped other people to commit an HUGE safety risk at best and treason at worst?
Trump got where he is because of character assassination, stupidity and seemingly foreign influence taking.
A weak democratic candidate cannot explain a completely incompetent and corrupted leader, at least not alone.
And don't give me the millionaire and blue collar talk when they elect a guy who is one himself and abuses his workers more than most.
Well, to be fair, hillary got character assassinated because she was legitimately flawed. She ran a campaign to maintain the status quo, democrats failed to see how toxic she was, and wikileaks ultimate did release emails that went into a lot of detail regarding how she and bill used their government positions along with their foundations to secure paid speeches which is perfectly reasonable to see as bribes from goldman sachs.... Which I maintain is a shame because morons are still going on about how she uses the foundation as a literal expense account or some other bullshit. The email thing was also pretty bad though not as bad as it was made out to be. Basically, hillary did this to herself. There was legitimate corruption there to be found and her political enemies took advantage of that.
And now, the big issue the US has to deal with is that trump has legitimate issues as well. Russia also hacked RNC emails. his taxes were never shown to the public. His business practices are questionable. The competency of his cabinet is questionable at best and non existent at worst.
So the issue here is not merely that these guys are character assassinated. The issue here is that there is legitimate corruption that is being exposed from this people. And that is being used by their enemies, whether from inside or abroad. Imagine how things would have turned out if hillary clinton had not deleted 30000 emails. Or if she hadn't used a private server. Or if she didn't use her foundation and political positions to secure paid speeches (as the leaked emails say). That could have represented, say, 77000 votes in blue wall states... And trump is in exactly the same shithole. Perhaps even a deeper one.
The US needs to get its head out of it's ass and start selecting people who can't be character assassinated by the freaking truth.
I just realized how costly health insurance is, I got hired by a job and was looking at the benefits page, and while its cheap/almost no cost for the employee, a spouse was like 750$ a month, isnt that kind of a lot?! Hopefully Trumps plan can alter the cost of these policies.