Pretty sure defunding means taking away money from police department, given how BLM supporters support every instances of mayors or governors taking away some money.
Anyone with "left" values instantly becomes communist lol.
Reduced payrolls on people who put their lies at risk regularly would be very harsh... They aren't paid as well as they should either.. A lower salary would encourage further illegal money making opportunities.... It'll have to be better than that..
Ben Shapiro seems like a good debater because he speaks fast. That's it. And because he debates liberals.
They choose to put their lives at risk, but they also abuse that power and are excessively violent. They don't deserve to get paid tens of thousands of dollars. Dunno why you think higher salary wouldn't encourage more illegal money making opportunities when that doesn't stop CEOs from being unethical and immoral.
You are describing reforming the police... That makes sense is some places, where you redefine the police structure from scratch and maybe even change a significant number of staff... Defunding is being discussed along with it, or as another option, but they aren't the same thing surely. Reforming has been tried before but defunding hasn't, which is why its caught more traction...
Because he debates liberals? Are you suggesting liberals are bad at reasoning?
I didn't say that... I am saying lowering their salary will encourage more illegal money making opportunities...
That is a baseless claim... Ben Shapiro is known for college crowds who are overwhemlingly liberal. and you seriously cant say he isn't smart just cos you dont like him... I dislike him too and disagree with almost everything he says, but i am not gonna fake call him dumb for that reason.
The ones he debates yes.
Yea, that i agree....
Bunch of college kids who have never read a book on politics and have never done research in their lives. He's never actually debated an academic before IIRC.
They're both academics though. No one really "wins" a philosophical debate.
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Yes they are. The point is not to "win" but to educate the other side. But Peterson, who only read the manifesto, trying to debate Marx was funny. Neo Post-Modernist Marxists. lol
He calls himself a libertarian but has contradicted himself on libertarian ism many times.
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I'm saying lowering their salary isn't going to make that much of a difference, if at all. You could pay them half a million per year, and they'd still find other ways to make money that's not legal. And your link does not prove the tweet wrong but seems to actually support it. I wouldn't be shocked if it was common in NYPD. If the supervisors allow this, even encourage it, then it won't be restricted. "Line of duty" doesn't work here when these same abusive cops are attacking protesters rather than saying they'll stop.
It's bullshit pandering. I don't really agree with destroying statues the way people have been doing, but I won't shed a tear either. Remove them and put them in museums if you want, but publicly displaying them is a bit odd.Thoughts?
Trump ‘will not even consider’ removing names of Confederate leaders from U.S. bases - National | Globalnews.ca
Trump's vow came as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged Congress to remove statues of notable Confederacy members from Capitol Hill.
Yeah, that's the point. Defunding the police is not just taking money away from districts or departments, it refers to a rather wide range of policy proposals which generally include taking functions away from the police and retraining them or even start departments from scratch along with creating the right non police alternatives that are able to handle the functions that were taking away. " Defunding" the police, in the sense of just taking money from them, if you give it a non zero amount of thought is a dangerously stupid proposal that really serves no one and does jack shit to fix anything and almost certainly would do nothing but add to the problems. I mean, without context that just sounds as taking money away and leaving it at that. Defunding the police is literally reforming the police from scratch. Now, depeding on where you look you will probably find different specific policies...
He is incapable of holding his ground at the same level when others don't react in an emotional manner. Even someone like Joe Rogan or Bill Maher can make him fluster a little... An academic can hit him hard.
Exactly... He entirely relies on the opponent's weakness to draw out facts. If an opponent can do that, he goes into a religious shell or fails to counter...
Is corruption that rampant in the police force? I am genuinely asking this, cos as far as i thought, its not present. Atleast not like developing nations.
You can say he's smart because he has a doctorate from Harvard in Law... other than that, its very subjective.... but he is more sound in his arguments than the right, but you yea, you've pretty much nailed the rest...
I think 150$ million drop on a 2 billion existing budget like the article states is reasonable. I get what you mean by defunding ~= reforming but i'd still not equate them as a common word. At the end of the day if its the same thing, we can all agree upon that a reform is required.Yeah, that's the point. Defunding the police is not just taking money away from districts or departments, it refers to a rather wide range of policy proposals which generally include taking functions away from the police and retraining them or even start departments from scratch along with creating the right non police alternatives that are able to handle the functions that were taking away. " Defunding" the police, in the sense of just taking money from them, if you give it a non zero amount of thought is a dangerously stupid proposal that really serves no one and does jack shit to fix anything and almost certainly would do nothing but add to the problems. I mean, without context that just sounds as taking money away and leaving it at that. Defunding the police is literally reforming the police from scratch. Now, depeding on where you look you will probably find different specific policies...
What would it mean to ‘defund the police’? These cities offer ideas
Programs in Dallas, Milwaukee and Salinas, California, have drawn the attention of activists seeking to end law enforcement's systemic abuse of black Americans.www.nbcnews.com
What Would Efforts to Defund or Disband Police Departments Really Mean? (Published 2020)
Much is not yet certain, but here’s what is known so far about some efforts to defund or abolish police departments.www.nytimes.com
My main issue here is that screaming "DEFUND" is something that is comically easy to turn against the people supporting it. Unfortunately most people don't actually bother to ask what people mean when saying stuff which makes this a pretty awful slogan that people on both sides of the political spectrum will believe means you just want to slash police budgets and leave it as that. Policy wise defunding makes sense if you consider the context but ultimately the word itself is just bad politics which hurts the cause.
Um, yes. That's part of the problem, and one of the things that led to the protest. They're literally getting violent against peaceful protesters because they refuse to stop being violent towards Black people. They may not take bribes like Indian police forces openly, but they're corrupt. Your link shows there's usually huge pay for overtime. Other than that though, just as with the tweet I linked, how do we know your link is accurate?
So he's still a clueless idiot despite getting a doctorate from Harvard? Damn.
IYea, its a bad word and has been used just for funding cuts as much as its used for other things...
I meant to bring up Trump / Biden to show how the same word means different things. You are right though, such things cannot have a middle ground on the centrist approach, one needs a more bolder approach and this may be his weakness....
Well, i am posting an offiicial website..... it cannot be more authentic than that... It says overtime may lead to salaries of over 100,000, but doesn't mention specifics. There are other salary websites that suggest median pay to be 75k ish, and overtime pays hit 95-105kish, but also that overtime is rare and limited.