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Don't you mean towards? But I'm not surprised at a conservative being bad at debates, it seems to be the norm. The other conservatives don't even care as long as it agrees with them, no matter the proof contrary.
 

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Don't you mean towards? But I'm not surprised at a conservative being bad at debates, it seems to be the norm. The other conservatives don't even care as long as it agrees with them, no matter the proof contrary.
Actually, in all honesty... I mean against. While it's true Fox News is much bigger than CNN, if you look at any movie, cartoon, tv show, comic book, or novel... they're all heavily engrossed in left leaning ideals. The majority of people just naturally view the right as unempathetic, anti-science, socially regressive, and a whole 'nother list of negative descriptions.

That's not like I'm saying it's intentional, like conservatives would have you believe. No one's trying to fight some non-existent culture war. It's just natural that people are more left-leaning than not, and media is gonna reflect that whether it's performative wokeness for clout, or legitimate desire to leave the world better than you found it.

Left is the present AND the future. Hence, the bias towards the left, and against the right.

S'not a bad thing.
 

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Yeah, even back when Hollywood was heavily conservative, the movies were often closer to socialistic. THe media though I think has almost always been conservative or conservative leaning. It doesn't seem to be that much left-leaning, given by how it focuses on good acts and not things that led to that act.
 

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It will be interesting to see if this information obtained under FOIA is relevant in the future.
 

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It will be interesting to see if this information obtained under FOIA is relevant in the future.


This post addresses this graph pretty well IMO
 

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This post addresses this graph pretty well IMO

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So what is new regarding our knowledge about concerns regarding this specific vaccine? One risk that folks were concerned years back is the risk that the LNP could distribute their payload throughout the body and enrich in the liver. If the spike protein is formed there, it could result in local inflammation of the organ and liver damage. However, this does not happen. In fact, the Japanese report indicates why, within a relatively short time frame all the mRNA expression is basically gone. So what about the LNP alone? Again, you get a dose, the lipids move through your body and get metabolized.
My thoughts are if lipid nanoparticles were quickly metabolized and expelled.

Women wouldn't retain persistent changes in their periods 3 months after getting the vaccine.

Trials are looking at such outcomes and from that viewpoint the current the current vaccines are no different from other vaccines or therapeutics.
LNPs were in use before that. See Anselmo and Mirtagotri Bioeng Transl Med. 2016 Mar; 1(1): 10–29.

He acts like mRNA vaccines are old technology that have been thoroughly studied and verified. Then he says they've only been around since 2016.

A lot of people who sound smart, say things that are not very smart at all.


:toc


Pointless to discuss, we're committed and will have to live with the consequences good or bad. I hope everyone will be happy and regret nothing. But things aren't guaranteed to go that way.
 

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It doesn't change the fact that the graph looks "worse" in regards to the Ovaries when the Liver is conspicuously absent. Now whether that was done because it's a given that the Liver would contain the highest levels, OR it was done to be intentionally misleading, who knows.

My thoughts are if lipid nanoparticles were quickly metabolized and expelled.

Women wouldn't retain persistent changes in their periods 3 months after getting the vaccine.
Where is this documented?
 

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It doesn't change the fact that the graph looks "worse" in regards to the Ovaries when the Liver is conspicuously absent. Now whether that was done because it's a given that the Liver would contain the highest levels, OR it was done to be intentionally misleading, who knows.



Where is this documented?



I read through what women were saying on reddit and social media. It seems common for some to have issues 3 months after the jab.

Women who don't get the vaccine, that spend time with those who do. Also exhibit similar symptoms.

I know someone whose feet swelled so much they couldn't put their shoes on, who had odd menstrual cramps and couldn't figure out why. I asked if they spent time with someone who was vaccinated. They spent the weekend with two people who got the shot. Case cracked.

A lot of people are affected by this and not connecting the dots.




That is also interesting.

Although I don't think many will remember why its relevant.
 

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That's still entirely anecdotal, so drawing conclusions based off of it seems agenda-driven to me.

I think you yourself can see the difference between what they're doing with the warnings regarding myocarditis, and no such thing so far regarding menstrual changes.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---


For instance, 4000 women reporting menstrual changes out of the 22 million who were vaccinated in the UK doesn't necessarily demonstrate any causal link.
 

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I wouldn't call it anecdotal data. Rather info from independent sources.

If I digged up old posts. I think they might prove I brought this topic up before it was acknowledged by the media or official sources. I knew a few people who had issues with it.

"Demonstrates no causal link." Remember when china and the world health organization said: COVID exhibits no evidence of human to human transmission.

That's how that sounds to me. :invalid

To each their own.
 

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I wouldn't call it anecdotal data. Rather info from independent sources.
It's info from independent sources that's entirely anecdotal

If I digged up old posts. I think they might prove I brought this topic up before it was acknowledged by the media or official sources. I knew a few people who had issues with it.
Prove what? That there would be reports of side effects that weren't necessarily shown in abundance during trials? Do you want a cookie or something?

I had issues too, that doesn't mean it isn't preferable to having covid.

"Demonstrates no causal link." Remember when china and the world health organization said: COVID exhibits no evidence of human to human transmission.

That's how that sounds to me. :invalid

To each their own.
That was a report from China, so idk how it's comparable
 

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That's still entirely anecdotal, so drawing conclusions based off of it seems agenda-driven to me.

I think you yourself can see the difference between what they're doing with the warnings regarding myocarditis, and no such thing so far regarding menstrual changes.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---


For instance, 4000 women reporting menstrual changes out of the 22 million who were vaccinated in the UK doesn't necessarily demonstrate any causal link.
women in US have been complaining about this as well
 

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women in US have been complaining about this as well
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I'm aware of the reports, but that's not validation for whether there's a cause for concern, much less it being directly linked to the vaccine or not.

--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

In the UK we're talking about 0.2% of all vaccinated women reporting any change at all.
 

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I mean, it depends on the women and if they think it's a cause for concern, but it shouldn't be written off just because the % is low.
 

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I mean, it depends on the women and if they think it's a cause for concern, but it shouldn't be written off just because the % is low.
Sure but that doesn't mean the contents of the vaccine caused it and that everyone should be operating on that assumption.
 

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Sure but that doesn't mean the contents of the vaccine caused it and that everyone should be operating on that assumption.
But it should be researched and looked into, if nothing else.
 

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People who aren't taking it as seriously?
 

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People who aren't taking it as seriously?
I don't see how the start of this topic got to this specific response...
 
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